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KOMO RADIO TO SIMULCAST ON 97.7 FM

Radio-Schmoozer said:
Here's your answer.  Starting Friday, KOMO Radio will simulcast on AM 1000 and 97.7 FM

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/44725407.html

This appears to be a programming agreement with South Sound Broadcasting, rather than a full purchase of the station (like Busto's purchase of former South Sound-owned KAYO/KDDS).  Does anyone know if this also affects KFMY's satellite station KLSY 107.9 further south?

KIRO and KOMO will be headbutting each other with one on 97.3 and the other on 97.7 .  I wonder how this will play out?

Bongwater said:
Already got the memo, now what's the power/coverage area of KOMO 97.7?

They have a construction permit to move to South Mountain, which will make it a rimshot to Seattle:
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=51167
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM1245907.html
 
That is a surprise :eek: Eagle 97.7 has a monster signal in Seattle and almost to Portland, pretty much the same as KNBQ-FM which is gets about a 1.5-1.9 share as the third country cowboy in the market :) Doesn't go past Everett, but covers big part of the town so I wonder if KIRO-FM will go back to simulcasting on AM to compete ??? Maybe seperate just for the Mariners and Seahawks games ??? Seems like a smart move to add a couple of shares to the KOMO signal, which I can't pick up too well on the South End. I wonder if KJR-AM will do the same thing with the KNBQ country signal ??? Don't need a third country and KIRO would be a sweating cowpie with an AM/FM KOMO attacking their FM only news station and an AM/FM KJR sports station attacking their AM only sports station :eek: This are heatin up in Seattle again :)
 
Hey,Takeitfromme- Very interesteing usage of emoticons in your post.
I think it's a stretch to think that KIRO would react in any way to this.
I also think it's a stretch to say that KNBQ gets 1.5-1.9 share. What #'s are you looking at?
 
Just lookin at 25-54 and 35-64 numbers which I believe is the ole target demo ;) In Winter KNBQ did a bit over a one share and 97.7 did almost a one, so why wouldn't KJR-AM think of simulcasting on KNBQ-FM since a third country ain't really a factor. Would make life a bit more fun for KMPS and THE WOLF. I agree that KIRO will wait for the PPM before reacting, but if it doesn't look good watch out ;D

Glad you like the emoticons. They are my damn favorite thang :p
 
Very interesting. I know there's more to the story regarding Eastside coverage, but I'm not tellin'.
 
By the looks of the KFMY Construction Permit, their 60dBU contour doesn't quite reach downtown Seattle. Looks like excellent coverage due South, but there isn't much upside for a station KOMO's size in that area anyway.

The coveted east side is either fringe or completely shadowed.

Hopefully Fisher didn't pay too much to walk this dog because it appears to be nothing more than a deaf three legged mutt.
 
HowardMBurgers said:
By the looks of the KFMY Construction Permit, their 60dBU contour doesn't quite reach downtown Seattle. Looks like excellent coverage due South, but there isn't much upside for a station KOMO's size in that area anyway.

The coveted east side is either fringe or completely shadowed.

Hopefully Fisher didn't pay too much to walk this dog because it appears to be nothing more than a deaf three legged mutt.

Whoops, wrong button too soon...my bad.....

They could probably get a Seattle booster on the same 97.7 frequency, that would help. But KFMY begins to fizzle badly in south Snohomish County and by the time you get to Everett via 97.7, you may as well have gone to Quebec as French language CBUF totally dominates 97.7 in downtown Everett on north. Maybe an Everett booster on 97.7 too to round it out would be in order....
 
An engineer cohort of mine says because they have a directional null going north, that they can't extend their coverage with boosters. That makes sense I guess.
 
On the ratings front, the strong South Sound FM stations like Spanish 99.3, KFNK, KNBQ and KFMY and KXXO in a good book get about a 1.5 share 25-54 down to a 0.5 share in a bad book. In a simulcast this would give KOMO AM/FM an extra share point 25-54 as a best guess. It certainly can't hurt their effort to battle KIRO, which is now a standalone FM, and could help KOMO especially in Pierce, Kitsap, Thurston and South King County, which are all part of the Seattle book.

I bet KOMO wanted to put their signal on KPLZ after seeing the success of KIRO as an AM/FM combo. While KPLZ is nothing to brag about 12+, the station was number one in 25-54 women in the Winter book and top five in 25-54 adults, which I believe easily beat KRWM in the key demos. I also know it is one of the better revenue stations in the market. Kind of hard to blow up the number one station 25-54 women in the market. It was a much easier decision for Bonneville to blow up an Oldies station.

In the case of KIRO, now they have split the AM and FM. The PPM ratings over time will tell whether that was smart, or they should have stayed at the top of the market in a simulcast. I wonder if by splitting you will end up with two mediocre stations, instead of one great one with a full market AM/FM combo and the Mariners. That is for you programming types to debate. KOMO's move seems to have no downside, since the didn't blow up KPLZ and could have some upside if the south county FM can deliver a share point or two in demo. Most interesting move in this market since Clear Channel grabbed KBKS from CBS. It has been a dull year. I bet after a few months of PPM things could get interesting again.
 
An engineer co-hort (love that word guru :D) says there is more to this than meets the eye. If a station or two agree to downpower east of the Cascades this 97.7 station could be sitting on top of Cougar Mountain :eek: In the meantime it just upgraded it's signal and has a buncho :eek:n channel boosters." I smell a cowpie that is more than just fertilizer ;) No kidding WOLF fans and KMPS fans would like to see KNBQ go away. For a south end station it takes quite a bit of audience and TSL from both. But this cowboy thinks KJR-AM has got to be lookin at what KOMO just did and thinking hmmmmmmmmmm. This could really put a dog doo in a lit bag on KIRO-AM's porch and their plans to dominate the sports world :-[
 
As a 2nd adjacent to 97.3 and 98.1, Cougar Mt not possible.
 
Congratulations, Bill! This move certainly doesn't hurt your stations.
 
BTW, there isn't anything stopping Fisher from an LMA on the Cougar 104.5 to cover the eastside/ Snohomish Co. part not covered by 97.7.

Just sayin' ;)
 
Hopefully, they will put a translator in Vancouver, WA. The loss of KIRO-AM makes it hard to receive Washington State news there.
 
N7PAT said:
Hopefully, they will put a translator in Vancouver, WA. The loss of KIRO-AM makes it hard to receive Washington State news there.

You're on the right track there, buddy. Wrong location, though.
 
hmmmmm. Quit teasing cowboy, is it a double purchase with 104.5 to cover the entire market ???
Is it a booster translator on Cougar ???
Still think Bonneville has got some cowpie on their face. I headed to Portland today and heard 97.7 loud and clear from seattle across 520, in Bellevue, down 405 to I-5 south. Lost it around Longview so it doesn't get to Vancouver, WA folks. Course most Seattle stations die out after Centralia 8) Some die in Seattle and you hear em loud and clear ;D
 
FMSteve said:
N7PAT said:
Hopefully, they will put a translator in Vancouver, WA. The loss of KIRO-AM makes it hard to receive Washington State news there.
I wouldn't go that far. O-P-B actually has several pieces from Olympia about what's going on in the legislature there, and even the same Anna King pieces that KPLU, KUOW carry... as well as Spokane. (Northwest Public Radio)
 
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