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KSHE SUCKS

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"AOR is Disturbed, KORN, Papa Roach, Sevendust, NIN, Drowning Pool, Fuel, Red, Puddle of Mudd, Velvet Revolver."

This is a joke right ? A prank ?

Those tunes you talk about belong on Active Rock stations. Someone mentioned KUPD. Very good choice. One of the best sounding active rock stations west of the rockies. KXXR/Minneapolis is another (93X) KILO/Colorado Spgs KBPI/Denver WRIF/Detroit.

AOR is no longer around. Dont even know if theres a niche for the format today.
 
coloradocowboy said:
AOR is no longer around. Dont even know if theres a niche for the format today.
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Oh, it's around. But as another pointed out, Mainstream Rock seems to be todays AOR.

Not a lot of Korn on a mainstream rocker.
 
PBF1 has a good point.... :)
 
radiopoopoo said:
I have been in radio for close to 20 years. KSHE's playlist consists of stuff I have never ever HEARD!
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That's because KSHE was rocking out way before you were a radio thought.
Obviously, you've never heard of The KSHE Classics. KSHE was (and still is)
a legendary rock station. Not many stations have rocked as long as they have.
Way before I moved to St. Louis and worked in radio there, I knew about KSHE,
in the days of JC, Ulett, Radio Rich, Mark Close and Al Hofer. I always had a dream
of working there. Never did, but I DID work for Emmis and their sister
station KIX 106. The whole Emmis family in St. Louis were a great bunch of people.
I'm now in DFW, but I had a fantastic time in St. Lou! and miss a lot of things about
it. Along the way I got to meet many of the main folks that made that station what it is.
And yes, I still have my KSHE bumper sticker that I stole from the promotions office,
circa 1997.... :D...and damn proud of having it too!

"Radiopoopoo" you obviously don't sound like you grew up with KSHE either. Many
St. Louisans did. There were the KSLQ's and the KWK's, but if you wanted to rock,
there was only one KSHE. The station became legendary for breaking tons of new
rock acts (Sammy Hagar was one of the ones they helped along). They also stood
out from the rest of the mainstream players by targeting in on regional hits and bands,
thus becoming unique across the U.S. Need I remind you of the bands Missouri, The
Jayhawks, Head East, Aliotta Haynes & Jeremiah? Naaah, you've probably never even
heard of them.

Or Canadian bands that they broke open in the US and Midwest stage like Rush,
Triumph, and a nice little guitar player called Jerry Doucette.

You need to go back in time my friend, and check up on rock radio history. Puddle of
Mud and Disturbed IS NOT the kind of music that folks that grew up listening to
KSHE enjoy. Go to a South County or St. Charles BBQ sometime, and get some musical
education. Good old (what you would call) dinosaur stoner rock was around long before
todays piercings, tattoos, painted fingernails, eye shadow, and thongs.

Guess you weren't in the crowd that used to stand outside the open window of the
studio in Crestwood and passed the doobie in to the jock to get him to play a tune.
Naaah, you were too busy getting your nose pierced..... No, wait a second, you probably
weren't even born.....;)
 
Quote from Shadow "Good old (what you would call) dinosaur stoner rock was around long before
todays piercings, tattoos, painted fingernails, eye shadow, and thongs".


You sir nailed it !!

While I understand and appreciate active rock, I am one who would rather hear a real band like Led Zeppelin The Beatles The Who or The Stones simply because these bands have covered and shaped everything that IS 'rock n roll' today. The on air jock is passionate about the rock format ...you cant fake the rock format ...its a lifestyle . I still get goose bumps when I 'm back selling "Moby Dick" ,Monkey Man or Were not gonna take it by the Who . I'm not from St Louis but I've traveled through St Louis on a # of occasions and I can tell you that KSHE is a great rock station . Rock of yesterday was real.
 
Not all men between 25-54 want to hear the same Pink Floyd and Rolling Stones crap. "SATISFACTION" IS OLDIES.

So I didn't say ACTIVE ROCK - you know what I mean. ROCK vs. ALT. vs. CLASSIC ROCK and this town needs a REAL ROCK station.

Alternative music SUCKS. Name 5 successful ALT. stations within the top 100 markets!! (By successful I mean in the top 10 12+) YOU CANNOT DO IT! You probably couldn't even do that with PEOPLE 18-34, much less 12+!

Rocking out now to a Yardbirds B side now. TRIPPY!
 
Alt in top 10 in the top 100

There are few similar success stories in Active Rock as well, so that theory doesn't stand up.

But since you brought it up, Alt-rockers in the top 10, 12+: KROQ. KTBZ. KXRK. WGRD. KTEG. There's five right there.

Oh, and I'll guarantee you that Pink Floyd tests way better than Korn/Disturbed/etc. 25-54. And "Satisfaction" is way up there, too.
 
radiopoopoo said:
If they played ALL hair bands ALL the time like the old PIRATE RADIO did in LA back in the day, it would work here. Have the jocks have long hair at gigs, just play it up.
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You obviously never listened to Pirate Radio in LA. It was not even close to a hair-band station, it was a Rock-leaning (guitar friendly) CHR. Sure, they played Ratt, Poison, Firehouse, motley Crue, et al, but they also played New Order and Erasure. It was enjoyable, but not a Hair Band station, by any stretch of the imagination. Rockers would call it "Poser-Radio", it was more targetted toward the KIIS-FM crowd that liked it as an alternative to mainstream pop.

Now, in its hey-day, KNAC was the Hair Band station in LA that you really should be referencing. (Even SMN's Z-Rock, to a certain degree, on a national level)

As for AOR, I would say your definition, as others have mentioned is VERY outdated. Many have mentioned KUPD, 93X and a few other stations to define what you are looking for. When you say AOR, to me, a 36 year old guy, that would be what WHQG is doing in Milwaukee or WDVE is doing in Pittsburgh, even KRXQ in Sacramento. I will agree with the implication that there are too many cookie cutter ideas out there, which is the problem with radio, in general.

Lastly, I have a hard time believing that you are a 20 year radio vet, with the elementary comments that you are making. The outdated terminology you are using, which lends me to believe that you are in your 40s or so, but as for working in radio, I sincerely doubt it. I will say, this has been an interesting discussion.
 
radiopoopoo said:
Not all men between 25-54 want to hear the same Pink Floyd and Rolling Stones crap. "SATISFACTION" IS OLDIES.
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Please name a date and time in the last 6 months KSHE played "Satisfaction." Whenever I'm in St. Louis, I listen to KSHE and I don't hear that song.

I always enjoy listening to KSHE when in the STL area, always hear something I haven't heard on the radio in ages, unlike C.R. stations playiung the same old consultant crap day after day.
 
Re: "Rock"

pbf1 said:
Again, radiopoopoo...what is your definition of "rock"? You poo-poo (pun intended) what's being played, yet offer no direction of where YOU think things should go.

Boston - Heart - Pat Benatar - Dire Straits...ROCK STAPLES.

Maybe you should be over on 105.7.......
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No, those are "Classic Rock" Staples---- BIG Difference.......

Read about the "subtle" differences between AOR and CR here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Album-oriented_rock

And let's look at what one of the "founding fathers" of the Classic Rock format, Mr. Lee Abrams now has to say about terrestrial FM on his Blog: http://leeabrams.blogspot.com/2006/06/more-from-xm-playbook.html

If you read all the way through it, you'll see..

I HATE CLASSIC ROCK RADIO PLAYLISTS ! ! ! !

I LOVE ALBUM ROCK (But I HATE BOSTON, DEF LEPPARD, BILLY SQUIRE, and all of the big commerical hits and cover of Van Halen.... but I do love the Hard Rock Van Halen!!)
 
radiopoopoo said:
Not all men between 25-54 want to hear the same Pink Floyd and Rolling Stones crap. "SATISFACTION" IS OLDIES.

So I didn't say ACTIVE ROCK - you know what I mean. ROCK vs. ALT. vs. CLASSIC ROCK and this town needs a REAL ROCK station.

Alternative music SUCKS. Name 5 successful ALT. stations within the top 100 markets!! (By successful I mean in the top 10 12+) YOU CANNOT DO IT! You probably couldn't even do that with PEOPLE 18-34, much less 12+!

Rocking out now to a Yardbirds B side now. TRIPPY!
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Instead of another @#$#ing AC/DC "Hit"... I'd rather hear some tasty tracks from the band Chicago, BEFORE their 5th album....... But the CR morons still have to be told that that I DO NOT want to hear such commercial "Hits" as "Beginnings" or "Color My World"..... 'cause that's the first place they'd go in their playbook !!!!

I will settle for "25 or 6 to 4" because it's as timeless as "Satisfaction" for someone that DOES NOT follow TOP 40 singles releases!!!!

I'll give some specific requests:

SOUTH CALIFORNIA PURPLES

FANCY COLORS

MAKE ME SMILE
 
AS U like it said:
radiopoopoo said:
Not all men between 25-54 want to hear the same Pink Floyd and Rolling Stones crap. "SATISFACTION" IS OLDIES.
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Please name a date and time in the last 6 months KSHE played "Satisfaction." Whenever I'm in St. Louis, I listen to KSHE and I don't hear that song.
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"Satisfaction" was played 8 out of the past 12 weeks on KSHE, according to mediabase. 9 total spins for the 12 week total. 2 times last week. The week of 7/8 it payed 2 times.
 
SMYB said:
AS U like it said:
radiopoopoo said:
Not all men between 25-54 want to hear the same Pink Floyd and Rolling Stones crap. "SATISFACTION" IS OLDIES.
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Please name a date and time in the last 6 months KSHE played "Satisfaction." Whenever I'm in St. Louis, I listen to KSHE and I don't hear that song.
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"Satisfaction" was played 8 out of the past 12 weeks on KSHE, according to mediabase. 9 total spins for the 12 week total. 2 times last week. The week of 7/8 it payed 2 times.
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I think that there are a few "Uber" Classic that I never get tired of hearing.... "Satisfaction" is one of them....... PF "Money"... is not. "Welcome To The Jungle Is" ..... "Sweet Child of Mine" -- is not.

So aside from a handful of "Uber" Classics..... The rest of the Classic Rock stable SHOULD BE PUT ON A VERY LONG HIATIS---- then you can air the "other" albums tracks of worth as a nice respectable change for music lovers ---- AND @#$% THE GENERAL POPULACE THAT WOULD FIND THAT "UNCONFORTABLE"---- JUST PUT YOUR @#$%ING GREATEST HITS CDS IN THE CAR AND SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
 
SMYB WROTE:

""Satisfaction" was played 8 out of the past 12 weeks on KSHE, according to mediabase. 9 total spins for the 12 week total. 2 times last week. The week of 7/8 it payed 2 times. "

Thank you very much!

To repeat, this town needs a REAL ROCK STATION!
 
radiopoopoo said:
SMYB WROTE:

""Satisfaction" was played 8 out of the past 12 weeks on KSHE, according to mediabase. 9 total spins for the 12 week total. 2 times last week. The week of 7/8 it payed 2 times. "

Thank you very much!

To repeat, this town needs a REAL ROCK STATION!
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Excuse me....TWICE in a week is too much? (The posters point was most likely that it's NOT played very often, even if too often for you.)

To repeat, your definition of "real rock" is different from most. You're looking for the Active Rock niche.

"Satisfaction" gets high marks every time rock stations do those "top 500 of all time" (or similar) surveys.
 
Hummm??? The groups you name you call "Oldies" and yet you call one of the most succesful TOP-40 BANDS of all time your definition of AOR..... All the above were played in AOR at some point... Geez? That makes Hendricks, The Stones, The Who, Santana and many others non-AOR by your definition.... Each ear determines what they want.... Rolling Stone has constantly ignored (by it's founding fathers and current powerbase) any "ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME" possibilty to Chicago, yet our fine guys celebrate 40 years of playing both album oriented and pop classics... The only American based band to be in the Hot-200 LP Chart in Billboard in FOUR different decades... See, even "Rolling Stone" is biased, as we all are to a point.. My GOD, was Gary Lewis and the Playboys AOR (only kidding)...The Monkees' "Zilch" could have been an early AOR classic.... My stained glasses see many groups and artists that charted (the most unbiased definition) on both the AOR, CHR and A/C charts.. Heck? The Eagles charted high on the Country chart with "Lyin Eyes"... Paul McCartney got "Sally G." played on Country as the flip side to "Junior's Farm".....
 
I'm sorry...Are you implying that Rolling Stone (the magazine) has some type of vendetta (in conjunction with the non-profit Rock and Roll Hall of Fame) against the pop band Chicago? I'll bet they're all part of the Pentaverate!

It's a well known fact that there's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, called the Pentaverate, that control everything, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually in a secret Colorado mansion know as The Meadows.

The Queen, the Vatican, the Getty's, the Rothchild's and Colonel Sanders Rolling Stone
 
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