KLOK and KCNL didn't flip until the first of the month after they were bought. Also, KLOK didn't go spanish because one of the terms of the sale from Univision was that the new format wouldn't be spanish
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KSJO sold!!!!
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DavidEduardo said:
That was what I was trying to say, though I didn't do a very good job of it. Thanks for the clarification.
I could've sworn I saw a Maximizer report for it a few years ago, but it's possible my memory could be failing me. It's been almost two years since I got out of radio (aside from talking about it here and some other boards), and it was several years before that when I saw that San Jose report.
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KBOS1965 said:
Yes KBOS COL was always Tulare, I was trying to explain how Clear Channel was able to keep all of their 6 FM stations, CC Fresno management explained it on the "Central CA board" topic "KHGE-102.7 is now Country Christmas" reply # 5, he said basically to keep KFSO out of the Aloha Trust,CC had to move KBOS on Paper to the Visalia-Tulare-Porterville market Arbitron wise, but KBOS is #1 in the Fresno Arbitrons and KFSO is in the top 10.
I understand now that will not work with KUFX,sorry for the confusion.
Kent said:
The thing is that there is no Maximiser for PPM... there is a different program, creatively named the "PPM Analasys Tool." Maximiser remains for the diary markets.
Of course, Arbitron spells it "Maximi$er."
Price was just disclosed as 9.25 million, brokered programming does make a lot of money!
Also pinciples websites are always Call Letters-Frequency-Band, For example kcnl1049fm.com, here's a link to ksjo923fm.com: http://ksjo923fm.com/ So my prediction, we'll see the new format on December 1
Also pinciples websites are always Call Letters-Frequency-Band, For example kcnl1049fm.com, here's a link to ksjo923fm.com: http://ksjo923fm.com/ So my prediction, we'll see the new format on December 1
SFStatic said:
KBRG & KLOK sold for $90 million in 2005; KARA went for $58 million in 2001.
KSJO is certainly a "blowtorch signal" for Santa Clara County / San Jose. There is, of course, no FM that puts a usable signal over all of the San Francisco MSA, so the full market has no blowtorches! (KIOI, the best commercial station, only puts a usable 64 dbu over 5.4 million of the market's 7.1 million inhabitants, in fact)
The difference between these and KSJO is that what triggered the need to sell was the privatization of Clear Channel just before the recession began; that made the new market caps apply (they were grandfathered with no need to sell before). As we know, 2008 and 2009 saw little station trading. Today, the prices are off for many reasons and finding a buyer with financing (yeah, right) or cash is a challenge.
It's not likely Clear would have gotten any better a price were they to have sold two or three years ago. And a sale made at the early part of the recession might not have closed as banks and lenders reversed commitments.
Just look at the price for the sale of the Cox move-in closer to Manhattan vs. the sale of the somewhat comparable Garden City Class A some years back. These are all an indication the lack of funding as much as they are evidence of a change in valuation.
Re signals, KIOI and KISQ cover a lot, but not all the MSA, as you note, David. One other that covers a lot of the waterfront is 100.3...when it was KBAY, a liner used to say "From Monterey Bay to Richardson Bay...." That was literally true, with their 14,500W at 3800 ft. I have heard a couple of very good engineers say that their coverage probably equated to 150,000 to 250,000 watts.
travisl5678 said:
I'm just a bit surprised it was so low. I read somewhere (probably on this board) that K-love bought the 107.3 signal for 10 million. I would have thought that KSJO could have fetched more.
Dave B.
I would have thought that the 107.3 frequency (Formerly KSTN-FM, Now KLVS) would have fetched more than the $10 million that they got. They might have gotten more about 10 years ago but the late Knox LaRue would not have sold it. He is probably turning in his grave now.DaveBayArea said:
Yes, KBRG is a very strong stick, I picked it up while I was in King City over the weekend and it came in pretty well. It gets pretty good ratings in Santa Cruz/Monterry/Salinas, from what I've seen in past books (All the Univision stations are gone this book) Also, I think David would know this, Is Recurdo a satelite format, or just a nationwide brand Univision uses?SFStatic said:
Good, flip it already and put it out of its misery.
Channel 92.3 used to be a cool, unique station. Now it's a Live 105 clone. We don't need more than one of those and I'm not convinced that Live 105 is going away anytime soon.
Channel was in a unique position to be the cool, under-the-radar alternative station that broke new bands and played unusual music because SJ alternative listeners didn't know any better, and SF music fans would go out of their way to listen to it on a scratchy frequency. I know I certainly did. Now there's no point.
The last hour:
12:16 SUBLIME Badfish
12:19 LINKIN PARK Waiting for the End
12:23 PARAMORE Misery Business
12:29 311 All Mixed Up
12:32 MUSE Uprising
12:36 PEARL JAM Black
12:42 CAKE Sick of You
12:48 BLINK 182 I Miss You
12:52 THE MIGHTY MIGHTY BOSSTONES The Impression That I Get
12:55 30 SECONDS TO MARS Closer to the Edge
12:59 NIRVINA All Apologies
1:03 METRIC Help, I'm Alive
1:07 WEEZER Say It Ain't So
1:11 KINGS OF LEON Radioactive
1:16 GREEN DAY Boulevard of Broken Dreams
As generic of an alternative sample hour as you can possibly get. If I wanted to hear something like this I'd have tuned into Live 105.
But it's good to see that these changes made their ratings fall even further. Now that they have nothing to lose, hopefully it can live out the rest of its days being the great station it once was.
Channel 92.3 used to be a cool, unique station. Now it's a Live 105 clone. We don't need more than one of those and I'm not convinced that Live 105 is going away anytime soon.
Channel was in a unique position to be the cool, under-the-radar alternative station that broke new bands and played unusual music because SJ alternative listeners didn't know any better, and SF music fans would go out of their way to listen to it on a scratchy frequency. I know I certainly did. Now there's no point.
The last hour:
12:16 SUBLIME Badfish
12:19 LINKIN PARK Waiting for the End
12:23 PARAMORE Misery Business
12:29 311 All Mixed Up
12:32 MUSE Uprising
12:36 PEARL JAM Black
12:42 CAKE Sick of You
12:48 BLINK 182 I Miss You
12:52 THE MIGHTY MIGHTY BOSSTONES The Impression That I Get
12:55 30 SECONDS TO MARS Closer to the Edge
12:59 NIRVINA All Apologies
1:03 METRIC Help, I'm Alive
1:07 WEEZER Say It Ain't So
1:11 KINGS OF LEON Radioactive
1:16 GREEN DAY Boulevard of Broken Dreams
As generic of an alternative sample hour as you can possibly get. If I wanted to hear something like this I'd have tuned into Live 105.
But it's good to see that these changes made their ratings fall even further. Now that they have nothing to lose, hopefully it can live out the rest of its days being the great station it once was.
J
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I really liked 92.3 - they got profiled in an article as a musically innovative station with a respect for the roots of alternative. Then they went back to playing Metallica and Live 105 dropped all their "flashbacks" and went back to being the station you could use to set your watch by the spins of RHCP and Sublime every hour. Especially with Live's heritage, it's sad the Bay Area can't keep a true modern rock format.
travisl5678 said:
All non-subscribers are gone.
KBRG's site puts a signal over quite a bit of the Monterey/Salinas market, but, unfortunately, it does not cover the San Francisco market, as it is a San Jose signal, and does not get far up the peninsula nor does it get far up the East Bay area, either.
Recuerdo is part satellite and part local. Most of the programming comes from the LA studios, but it has numerous local dayparts and local inserts in others. The music uses a rather unique multi-market research approach. The format was created (not developed... it was a never-done-before-anywhere format) by the station's PD and mid-day personality in 1999 and the fact that most imitators are gone or fading shows why she is on all the stations and why the format is one of those that can best be done in a unified manner.
JimmyJames said:
KSJO is hardly a "Bay Area" station... it's a "Southern Extreme of the the Bay Area" station. Most of it's coverage is Santa Clara County, and its 64 dbu covers less than 30% of the metro population... an area that is 30% Hispanic and about 60% ethnic.
David, does the 60 percent ethic figure include the Hispanic Population?
travisl5678 said:
Of course.
DavidEduardo said:
While the term "ethnic" refers to a grouping of people based on common ancestry, cultural values, race, etc., it is usually used to refer to groupings of people who are not in the majority. Thus, we don't consider Anglos to be an ethnic group. However, with Hispanics becoming the majority in California, it seems that the term "ethnic" should no longer apply to them, but should begin to be applied to your basic WASPs.
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what?? Mexicans cant listen to alternative? I have my birth certificate
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