KSL to Finally Run SNL

[justpassingthough]

What's up with all the talk about NBC ditching KSL? Last I checked, NBC wasn't in the greatest position to negotiate with affiliates, given their ranking as the #4 or #5 network, behind even Univision. As someone said, NBC probably needs KSL more than KSL needs NBC.

If anything, being owned by Bonneville probably legitimizes NBC to the Mormon population in Utah, especially when they refuse to air some "offensive" programming.

SNL may be considered offensive to some people but I don't recall it ever being specifically offensive to or about the Mormon faith. Even their parodies of Mitt Romney seemed to focus on his policies and stiff mannerisms, but not his faith.

 

[searadiofreak]

Exactly right. NBC needs KSL more than KSL needs NBC. However, what KSL really needs is ratings. They have been falling off both during news and non-news dayparts, despite a new hi-tech set and probably the most experienced staff in the market.

 

[justpassingthough]

Exactly right. NBC needs KSL more than KSL needs NBC. However, what KSL really needs is ratings. They have been falling off both during news and non-news dayparts, despite a new hi-tech set and probably the most experienced staff in the market.

I imagine its difficult to get anyone to watch your 10pm news with stellar lead-ins like Minute to Win It and Do No Harm.

 

[AKA]

What's up with all the talk about NBC ditching KSL?

Par for the course on this forum. I've found that regardless of topic, television threads here often puzzlingly bunny trail into baseless speculation on station sales and/or fantasy network affiliation swap scenarios.

 

[Ultimajock]

KSL, as I pointed out on another thread, was a constant
headache for CBS as well, and for much the same reason:
pre-emptions of programs deemed by the Mormon church
to be inappropriate (also, it was one of CBS's weakest affiliates).
Bill Paley, however, was tolerant of the station, understanding
the reasons for the pre-emptions (and I believe KSL had been
with CBS since radio days).

...plus, The Mormon Tabernacle Choir was one of the better-selling acts on the co-owned Columbia Masterworks record label during the Paley era...

 

[JeeperOne]

What's up with all the talk about NBC ditching KSL?

Par for the course on this forum. I've found that regardless of topic, television threads here often puzzlingly bunny trail into baseless speculation on station sales and/or fantasy network affiliation swap scenarios.

NBC moving to KTVX 4 wouldn't be that far fetched IF Bonneville were to sweet talk Disney into making the move to KSL (And considering NBC's woes vs. the time tested stability of ABC..... )

Just sayin'.....

Cheers & 73 ;D

 

[bpatrick]

I'm probably the worst about calling for affiliation swaps, but
there are a few markets that could no doubt use one; Atlanta
and CBS comes immediately to mind. But, realistically, I don't
see any swaps in the near future; it's expensive from a promotional
standpoint, and it doesn't guarantee improved ratings for the station
that institutes it (WHAS Louisville has never done as well with ABC
as it did with CBS; it was one of the Eye Network's best affiliates,
but the switch there opened the door for WLKY to go from one of
ABC's weakest affiliates to one of CBS's strongest).

 

[nomadcowatbk]

What's up with all the talk about NBC ditching KSL?

Par for the course on this forum. I've found that regardless of topic, television threads here often puzzlingly bunny trail into baseless speculation on station sales and/or fantasy network affiliation swap scenarios.

NBC moving to KTVX 4 wouldn't be that far fetched IF Bonneville were to sweet talk Disney into making the move to KSL (And considering NBC's woes vs. the time tested stability of ABC..... )

Just sayin'.....

Cheers & 73 ;D

What ABC programs would KSL pre-empt?

 

[Brother]

NBC moving to KTVX 4 wouldn't be that far fetched IF Bonneville were to sweet talk Disney into making the move to KSL (And considering NBC's woes vs. the time tested stability of ABC..... )

Just sayin'.....

Cheers & 73 ;D

There's absolutely no reason for Bonneville to sweet-talk anyone. Any network, not just NBC, would need KSL more than KSL needs a network.

None of this Salt Lake network switching is going to happen. NBC has been tolerant and accepting of KSL's pre-emptions for nearly two decades now, and the station will begin showing SNL in the fall. It's done, nothing's going's to change, let's move on from fanciful network switcheroos.

 

[dhett]

SNL may be considered offensive to some people but I don't recall it ever being specifically offensive to or about the Mormon faith. Even their parodies of Mitt Romney seemed to focus on his policies and stiff mannerisms, but not his faith.

SNL is only offensive in that it ceased to be funny years ago.

 

[nomadcowatbk]

NBC moving to KTVX 4 wouldn't be that far fetched IF Bonneville were to sweet talk Disney into making the move to KSL (And considering NBC's woes vs. the time tested stability of ABC..... )

Just sayin'.....

Cheers & 73 ;D

There's absolutely no reason for Bonneville to sweet-talk anyone. Any network, not just NBC, would need KSL more than KSL needs a network.

None of this Salt Lake network switching is going to happen. NBC has been tolerant and accepting of KSL's pre-emptions for nearly two decades now, and the station will begin showing SNL in the fall. It's done, nothing's going's to change, let's move on from fanciful network switcheroos.

Could KSL survive an an indie? If that happened, would they just fill primetime with LDS programming?

 

[kenglish]

KSL just dropped it's locally-produced "Mormon Times".
Anything LDS can be found on KBYU-TV, BYU-TV and BYU International, including KBYU-FM and LDS Radio Network on the audio channels.

 

[justpassingthough]

NBC moving to KTVX 4 wouldn't be that far fetched IF Bonneville were to sweet talk Disney into making the move to KSL (And considering NBC's woes vs. the time tested stability of ABC..... )

Just sayin'.....

Cheers & 73 ;D

There's absolutely no reason for Bonneville to sweet-talk anyone. Any network, not just NBC, would need KSL more than KSL needs a network.

None of this Salt Lake network switching is going to happen. NBC has been tolerant and accepting of KSL's pre-emptions for nearly two decades now, and the station will begin showing SNL in the fall. It's done, nothing's going's to change, let's move on from fanciful network switcheroos.

Could KSL survive an an indie? If that happened, would they just fill primetime with LDS programming?

Isn't the Mormon population in the immediate SLC area down below 50% now due to migration in Utah from non-Mormons from other states? If so, they would be significantly hamstringing themselves by serving a population that is no longer in the majority.

 

[nomadcowatbk]

NBC moving to KTVX 4 wouldn't be that far fetched IF Bonneville were to sweet talk Disney into making the move to KSL (And considering NBC's woes vs. the time tested stability of ABC..... )

Just sayin'.....

Cheers & 73 ;D

There's absolutely no reason for Bonneville to sweet-talk anyone. Any network, not just NBC, would need KSL more than KSL needs a network.

None of this Salt Lake network switching is going to happen. NBC has been tolerant and accepting of KSL's pre-emptions for nearly two decades now, and the station will begin showing SNL in the fall. It's done, nothing's going's to change, let's move on from fanciful network switcheroos.

Could KSL survive an an indie? If that happened, would they just fill primetime with LDS programming?

Isn't the Mormon population in the immediate SLC area down below 50% now due to migration in Utah from non-Mormons from other states? If so, they would be significantly hamstringing themselves by serving a population that is no longer in the majority.

aren't they doing that already by preempting certain NBC programs? If KSL went indie, would people keep watching its news (assuming they still maintained a news dept as an indie) due to church ownership?

 

[searadiofreak]

OK, I think we need to step back here. KSL is still an important NBC affiliate. The addition of SNL will help them with the network, though I don't know the real reasons this decision was made.

Frankly, KSL has always been the best local news affiliate in SLC, going back decades. Their recent re-do is quite good, probably the best in the market. KSL should rebound, but they are only as good as NBC is. So best of luck.

 

[cowboybud]

NBC moving to KTVX 4 wouldn't be that far fetched IF Bonneville were to sweet talk Disney into making the move to KSL (And considering NBC's woes vs. the time tested stability of ABC..... )

Just sayin'.....

Cheers & 73 ;D

There's absolutely no reason for Bonneville to sweet-talk anyone. Any network, not just NBC, would need KSL more than KSL needs a network.

None of this Salt Lake network switching is going to happen. NBC has been tolerant and accepting of KSL's pre-emptions for nearly two decades now, and the station will begin showing SNL in the fall. It's done, nothing's going's to change, let's move on from fanciful network switcheroos.

Could KSL survive an an indie? If that happened, would they just fill primetime with LDS programming?

Isn't the Mormon population in the immediate SLC area down below 50% now due to migration in Utah from non-Mormons from other states? If so, they would be significantly hamstringing themselves by serving a population that is no longer in the majority.

That's in SLC proper. 62% statewide according to the Salt Lake Tribune, and remember the SLC market covers the whole state.

 

[justpassingthough]

NBC moving to KTVX 4 wouldn't be that far fetched IF Bonneville were to sweet talk Disney into making the move to KSL (And considering NBC's woes vs. the time tested stability of ABC..... )

Just sayin'.....

Cheers & 73 ;D

There's absolutely no reason for Bonneville to sweet-talk anyone. Any network, not just NBC, would need KSL more than KSL needs a network.

None of this Salt Lake network switching is going to happen. NBC has been tolerant and accepting of KSL's pre-emptions for nearly two decades now, and the station will begin showing SNL in the fall. It's done, nothing's going's to change, let's move on from fanciful network switcheroos.

Could KSL survive an an indie? If that happened, would they just fill primetime with LDS programming?

Isn't the Mormon population in the immediate SLC area down below 50% now due to migration in Utah from non-Mormons from other states? If so, they would be significantly hamstringing themselves by serving a population that is no longer in the majority.

That's in SLC proper. 62% statewide according to the Salt Lake Tribune, and remember the SLC market covers the whole state.

I'm aware of that but I'm guessing that the ad sales department at KSL focuses on SLC and the immediate suburbs and the remainder of the state is an afterthought, especially where it concerns national ad sales. If we are looking at increasing or keeping revenues flat (at the very least), I imagine only the metro area is considered.