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KTRB R.I.P.

I agree with Nathan re the A's will most likely bail right after the season. I disagree on the going dark. It will be much easier for the bank to get more of their money back unloading the station if it's on the air than dark.
 
SFStatic said:
I agree with Nathan re the A's will most likely bail right after the season. I disagree on the going dark. It will be much easier for the bank to get more of their money back unloading the station if it's on the air than dark.

True. I think it's a safe bet to say that KTRB's days as an Anglophone or secular outlet may be long gone, though.

The one question I do have is, will Comerica want to commit to throwing tons of $$$ into an incinerator in order to power the night site? Is it possible for them to ask the FCC to temporarily relinquish the night pattern until they do find a buyer?
 
Nathan Obral said:
The one question I do have is, will Comerica want to commit to throwing tons of $$$ into an incinerator in order to power the night site? Is it possible for them to ask the FCC to temporarily relinquish the night pattern until they do find a buyer?

As I have pointed out in several posts in this thread, the least expensive way of keeping KTRB alive with a night signal that would serve a small but still not inappreciable number of people, is to apply for an auxiliary night facility using two of KFAX's towers (either #s 1 and 2 or 3 and 4) and a power of 500W give or take. Technically, this may not be the best alternative, but it probably would be the least expensive because KTRB is already transmitting a 50-kW ND signal from the KFAX site by day.
 
DanStrassberg said:
Nathan Obral said:
The one question I do have is, will Comerica want to commit to throwing tons of $$$ into an incinerator in order to power the night site? Is it possible for them to ask the FCC to temporarily relinquish the night pattern until they do find a buyer?

As I have pointed out in several posts in this thread, the least expensive way of keeping KTRB alive with a night signal that would serve a small but still not inappreciable number of people, is to apply for an auxiliary night facility using two of KFAX's towers (either #s 1 and 2 or 3 and 4) and a power of 500W give or take. Technically, this may not be the best alternative, but it probably would be the least expensive because KTRB is already transmitting a 50-kW ND signal from the KFAX site by day.

If it saves them from having to needlessly truck propane, I agree. Hopefully there's at least one engineer still in the KTRB building (if any of them are willing to work for free like Dito) that can come to the same conclusion.
 
I'm just a radio listener, not in the industry, but is normal for a station to have a transmitter in such a remote location that you'd need to truck in fuel? That would seem to be the first indication you've got a really bad business plan!
 
BossRadioDJ said:
No confirmation (I haven't seen the court documents), but I understand that this is the website of the person who is serving as KTRB's court-appointed receiver:

http://www.ueckerassoc.com/Susan bio.htm

Perhaps I'm easily amused, but the idea that someone named Uecker is taking control of a baseball team's cellar-dwelling flagship station has got to be an inside joke, on either a cosmic or a judicial level. KTRB must be sitting in the front row!

(For those non-baseball fans in attendance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Uecker)
 
On Facebook this morning, Ken Dito has posted his guest list for this week's Press Box show from 9-10 AM.

Listening in the 8 AM hour, however, I don't think that a two-hour-long interview with Mike Epstein on Ron Barr's Sports Byline USA (with no live news, traffic or sports updates) is gonna win over lotsa ears. (Yes, I know it's just a placeholder.)

On the website, all references (well, all the obvious ones) to Michael Savage have been stripped away.

The contact page on the website, once rich with humans you could reach with a click of the mouse, now bears only this terse (and strange) proclamation:

Contact Susan L. Uecker, Receiver, at [email protected] This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

http://www.xtra860am.com/contact-us.html
 
Ken Dito opened the 9 AM hour with an overview of what happened at KTRB -- including calling the previous owner "incompetent." (Understatement, perhaps.)

Ken just added that he pre-recorded his statement because it was too emotional to do live.
 
Michael Weiner/Savage's website claims he can be heard on KSTE-AM 650 in Rancho Cordova. He claims it's as strong in San Francisco as KTRB was.
 
KSTE has always had a better signal in a lot of Contra Costa (where many of the conservatives live) than KNEW since that station went to 20Kw. They had to reduce their coverage East, losing some of the very area where most conservatives live. Armstrong & Getty show up with more KSTE listeners in Co Co than KNEW listeners.
 
The fact is KTRB was nowhere in the ratings 6 months ago, and since they started to ran Savage's show they went from 0.0 to a 0.4 in the ratings and in cume they went from 60,000 listeners to 160,000!!!

They will lose them all now, wait and see.
 
They have actually had .1s and .2s most of the time, but you are correct, Savage did help the numbers. The bump they got was not remotely close to that which KNEW got when he moved there from KSFO, however. Note that in the 6+ beauty contest numbers KNEW is down from 1.1s and 1.2s to a .5, and KTRB had moved up to a .4. It's not the 25-54 money demo, but does indicate what's going on. The cume can't all be credited to Savage, however. The A's have always brought about 50,000 in extra cume when they've gone to a station.
 
SFStatic said:
They have actually had .1s and .2s most of the time, but you are correct, Savage did help the numbers. The bump they got was not remotely close to that which KNEW got when he moved there from KSFO, however. Note that in the 6+ beauty contest numbers KNEW is down from 1.1s and 1.2s to a .5, and KTRB had moved up to a .4. It's not the 25-54 money demo, but does indicate what's going on. The cume can't all be credited to Savage, however. The A's have always brought about 50,000 in extra cume when they've gone to a station.

Also note that Savage's show was preempted frequently whenever the A's headed to the Midwest and East Coast. That's why IMO, it will be difficult to properly judge based on the ratings alone. But make no mistake, Savage was their premiere program, which says a lot about their actual sports lineup. No doubt his show's removal is a crushing blow to the station.
 
scott5 said:
The fact is KTRB was nowhere in the ratings 6 months ago, and since they started to ran Savage's show they went from 0.0 to a 0.4 in the ratings and in cume they went from 60,000 listeners to 160,000!!!

They will lose them all now, wait and see.

Inside Radio reports:

The entire KTRB staff except for the chief engineer was dismissed on Friday – without receiving their final paycheck.

“The staff was greeted with a court ordered receiver who announced that there was no funding to continue our jobs,” program director Kevin Barrett says. ... Ironically September had just become the station’s best-billing month since it went on the air and Barrett notes KTRB beat Cumulus Media Partner’s sports KTCT (1050) in the just-released August PPM ratings.


http://www.insideradio.com//Article.asp?id=1949484&spid=32061
 
BossRadioDJ said:
Inside Radio reports:

... and Barrett notes KTRB beat Cumulus Media Partner’s sports KTCT (1050) in the just-released August PPM ratings.

http://www.insideradio.com//Article.asp?id=1949484&spid=32061

I dunno... KTCT is the second-tier sister station to KNBR, and they simulcast afternoon drive, no? They haven't called themselves "KTCT" or "The Ticket" for years. IMO, this is akin to calling yourself the World's Tallest Little Person.

Still, with regards to the article... OUCH.
 
BossRadioDJ said:
scott5 said:
The fact is KTRB was nowhere in the ratings 6 months ago, and since they started to ran Savage's show they went from 0.0 to a 0.4 in the ratings and in cume they went from 60,000 listeners to 160,000!!!

They will lose them all now, wait and see.

Inside Radio reports:

The entire KTRB staff except for the chief engineer was dismissed on Friday – without receiving their final paycheck.


Inside Radio had incorrect information. There are a couple other staffers that were kept, including Mario Butzner, the Production Director. It's pretty hard to run spots when there's no one on staff to produce and load them!

“The staff was greeted with a court ordered receiver who announced that there was no funding to continue our jobs,” program director Kevin Barrett says. ... Ironically September had just become the station’s best-billing month since it went on the air and Barrett notes KTRB beat Cumulus Media Partner’s sports KTCT (1050) in the just-released August PPM ratings.


http://www.insideradio.com//Article.asp?id=1949484&spid=32061
 
SFStatic said:
Inside Radio had incorrect information. There are a couple other staffers that were kept, including Mario Butzner, the Production Director. It's pretty hard to run spots when there's no one on staff to produce and load them!

He obviously has to be there on a volunteer basis a la Ken Dito. Neither Dito nor Chris Townsend (now employed by the A's) were mentioned in the article, and they are still "on" KTRB. But neither of them will be getting a check from the station's owners. I presume the board-ops for the A's games are either being paid by the team, or are also volunteering their services. (Again, there are only three weeks left in the season, so that would make sense as a stop-gap measure.)

In that sense, the article was correct. They are no longer staff in the traditional sense of a radio station, and only the CE now gets checks from the bank.
 
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