The deal with KROY was the FCC got proof the station had violated FCC Rules (possibly being dark more than a year) and would not allow the sale but instead pulled the license. Similar to the KFCC Werlinger situation where Don managed to get KFCC's license revoked although he could run the station through the term of the license. Don tried to sell it and was told he didn't have a license to sell.
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KVUT shuts down
- Thread starter Theater of My Mind
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anyone have contact info for the decision maker for this station?
lol i worked at KFCC for a bit when it was moved to cover a part of Houston i think it was 1270 if i'm not mistaken
I do not know the details on KROY but I knew Don Werlinger and his side of the KFCC situation was he entered coordinates that moved the station something like 68 miles in the hopes the FCC wouldn't catch it. When they did, he went to Washington to a guy he knew at the FCC's AM branch would was willing to do him 'one favor'. It seems that FCC guy's boss had caught it and ordered KFCC to shut down (as it was operating under a CP at that point). It seems the manager Don had at the FCC told media, he'd like to see the FCC try to do that. That irritated the FCC and Federal Marshalls were sent out to padlock the place. A hearing was scheduled and Don said to the Commissioners "How much of a fine do I pay to resolve this". Instead, they found Don to be unfit to hold a FCC license. The station did resume at the spot applied for on the application and operated several years until the license term expired and the frequency abandoned by the FCC. Yes, FCC was 1270.
KROY was a Roy Henderson station. He is still a licensee. A few of his stations I know of do well. There are others supposedly not successful for whatever reason and allegedly dark more than lit up.
Don was an exceptional engineer regardless of his flaws. He continued to do engineering work, paying Bob Morrow, a fellow engineer, to check and then sign his studies as the FCC would not accept applications under his name. Don and Mike Vendetti were the best AM engineers I ever met.
KROY was a Roy Henderson station. He is still a licensee. A few of his stations I know of do well. There are others supposedly not successful for whatever reason and allegedly dark more than lit up.
Don was an exceptional engineer regardless of his flaws. He continued to do engineering work, paying Bob Morrow, a fellow engineer, to check and then sign his studies as the FCC would not accept applications under his name. Don and Mike Vendetti were the best AM engineers I ever met.
You know your market far better than I, so I'll admit that this is a superficial read of the situation, but I have to ask whether it would have made more sense for KERA to have simply bought the station and use it as a repeater. Or do you think the finances wouldn't have penciled out?
Oh, good lord, I see there's diminished ERP aimed toward Tyler. There must be a story there.
I'm friends with the station OM and we've discussed some of these issues and programming at length. Smart guy who used to be on air at KVNE.
NPR also talks a lot about climate change, which doesn’t go over well with many conservatives in the area, especially in an area with a significant portion of the economy based on oil and gas.
With people being creatures of habit, I think they were just used to tuning to the KERA translator on 100.1 for over 20 years and on 99.1 (I used to hate how it blocked out KTUX back in the day) for several years before that. I recall them also being on 99.7 for a brief time after the 99.3 move-in.
With people being creatures of habit, I think they were just used to tuning to the KERA translator on 100.1 for over 20 years and on 99.1 (I used to hate how it blocked out KTUX back in the day) for several years before that. I recall them also being on 99.7 for a brief time after the 99.3 move-in.
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I had thought, at one point, that NTPB would commit to a full power facility for both Sherman-Denison and Wichita Falls way before now, Mark. Once they acquired 91.7 in Dallas, the chances became slim and none. Now, with WRR's operational agreement with the City subtracting even more resources from them that could be directed toward any facility upgrade, no, I don't believe they can make any further acquisitions at this point in time without a significant donation from one of the members.
There is, but the neutering of 100.7 to a C3 happened long before LSU-S took ownership. Long story short, the null towards Tyler is to protect co-channel KWRD-FM in the Metroplex.
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Thanks. I had forgotten about NTPB's other commitments, especially the WRR agreement. There is money in Dallas, of course, but I suspect any potential donor who would be interested in a major grant would want to focus it on Dallas-Fort Worth.
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You, of all people, didn't go with TPIR's "losing horn" in this comment and, instead, employed the sound effects of Pac-Man?!?
Sounds like you need a fresh bag of Buc-ee's Nuggets for a quick pick-me-up. You're slipping, Kelly.
I recall that the old KPXI 100.7 could be heard with a weak signal in Fort Worth in the mid-1970s, so the pre-downgrade coverage was quite good.
Meanwhile it is being reported that KVUT is up for sale.
As reported by Inside Radio:
KVUT 99.7 FM in Tyler, TX, Has Ceased Operations.
The University of Texas at Tyler College of Arts and Sciences says its KVUT 99.7 FM has ceased operations. According to a news release, the public broadcaster went off the
KPXI went to 100kw around 1976-77, but it was only on a 155 ft stick next to the studios, so that was likely just tropo bouncing it into DFW. I recall it being a frequent visitor in its CHR/Rock "X100" days in the late 80s.
You have to admit that the TPIR 'Loser' whu..whu..wh. WHUUUH-sound isn't as close as PacMan ghost-eating Kaaaay-VUT.
And there's no disputing either way, that KVUT is KPUT.
I once heard X100 down here in the RGV back in 1991!
Okay, a lot of these posts provide some good insight that makes this move much more understandable. If new leadership at the school saw it as just a cost with no benefit, it was going to go away. If it was running NPR, Classical, and Jazz, students likely weren't going to be terribly interested and it seems like the audience for NPR was probably was being served with the KERA translator anyway. How could this have been better?: provide a format the students would listen to and want to be a part of. That's why KNTU in Denton switched from Jazz to Indie/Alternative rock recently. They saw ratings jump and recently cracked a one share for the first time ever. But again, if the UT Tyler leadership had no interest, it didn't matter. Maybe they can sell the station to someone and use the money to improve the school. Just still seems like a lot of wasted effort and a missed opportunity for the school.
It's hard to believe that in rural parts of Texas and other conservative states, there is sometimes no NPR news/talk station. KERA-FM Dallas is one of the better NPR affiliates in the U.S. But it only rebroadcasts on three translators and has no full power repeaters. One translator is in Tyler, one in Wichita Falls and one in Sherman. But they are only powered at 250 watts or less.
In the Northeast by contrast, each small state has its own NPR network. Except for Rhode Island, they have multiple full-power stations airing the network. In some places near state borders, you can hear two or three NPR news/talk outlets. Boston alone has two NPR news and information stations, while its northern suburbs can also pick up New Hampshire and Maine's NPR affiliates too.
But if you are too far from KERA-FM or its 3 translators, you will not hear NPR programming in many parts of North Texas.
In the Northeast by contrast, each small state has its own NPR network. Except for Rhode Island, they have multiple full-power stations airing the network. In some places near state borders, you can hear two or three NPR news/talk outlets. Boston alone has two NPR news and information stations, while its northern suburbs can also pick up New Hampshire and Maine's NPR affiliates too.
But if you are too far from KERA-FM or its 3 translators, you will not hear NPR programming in many parts of North Texas.
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Banned
From the filing to go silent
Station Status
The University of Texas at Tyler, the licensee of non-commercial educational FM
broadcast station KVUT, Cuney, Texas, hereby requests special temporary authority for the
station to remain silent for more than 30 days. The University has taken the station off the air for
financial reasons and is evaluating its options for the station going forward
I think it would be a hoot if the FCC granted silence for 31 days. Our wording for silence was always, with an abundance of caution, we request six months.
Station Status
The University of Texas at Tyler, the licensee of non-commercial educational FM
broadcast station KVUT, Cuney, Texas, hereby requests special temporary authority for the
station to remain silent for more than 30 days. The University has taken the station off the air for
financial reasons and is evaluating its options for the station going forward
I think it would be a hoot if the FCC granted silence for 31 days. Our wording for silence was always, with an abundance of caution, we request six months.
What would you expect to pay for this station?
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