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KYND Back on air?

KYND ON AIR?

Was driving home into Houston from Wharton about 5:15 PM, heard impeachment debate on KYND 1520am as got closer to town. Would that be the OKLA station or somebody broadcasting on KYND?
 
From November through February, AM radio signals travel much farther, especially near sunset (reference listening time was 515pm) -- KOKC booms in here, so that's what was heard. KOKC is the clear-channel dominant station, so that's the reason that KYND is a daytime-only station, just like dozens of other stations on clear channels like AM 1520, such as KQQB San Antonio. Another indicator is that KOKC is a news-talk station, so hearing congressional hearings would be expected.
 
thatvoice22 said:
from november through february, am radio signals travel much farther, especially near sunset (reference listening time was 515pm) -- kokc booms in here, so that's what was heard. Kokc is the clear-channel dominant station, so that's the reason that kynd is a daytime-only station, just like dozens of other stations on clear channels like am 1520, such as kqqb san antonio. Another indicator is that kokc is a news-talk station, so hearing congressional hearings would be expected.
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thought so!!!!! Question though, when do stations like kynd (daytimers) sign on / off.
 
foldap said:
thought so!!!!! Question though, when do stations like kynd (daytimers) sign on / off.
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on at lcoal sunrise, off at local sunset... sometimes stations like KCTA on Corpus Christi on 1030 can sign on at boston sunrise which is like 430am corpus christi time right now
 
Haven't heard anything out of KYND for the past eight weeks. Appears they are gone, but I have not dug into FCC info to see if an STA to go silent has been filed.
 
foldap said:
Question though, when do stations like kynd (daytimers) sign on / off.
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Local sunrise/sunset times are shown on https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/am-query
Enter the call letters (aka call sign), scroll down to Output, select the “detailed output, and hit “Results to next page/tab.”
Toward the bottom of the “Technical Information” tab, look for “Approximate Sunrise & Sunset Times at the transmitter site: Central time zone.”
Click on Central to view the listing of approximate sunrise/sunset times as shown year-round as Standard Time.
The table below shows the times for KYND. Some stations have early sign-on or late sign-off provisions.

Table of Approximate Local Monthly Sunrise and Sunset Times in the USA at North Latitude 29 53 13, West Longitude 96 0 52
Monthly Local SUNRISE Times:
January 7:15
February 7:00
March 6:30
April 6:00
May 5:30
June 5:15
July 5:30
August 5:45
September 6:15
October 6:30
November 6:45
December 7:15
Monthly Local SUNSET Times
January 5:45
February 6:15
March 6:30
April 6:45
May 7:15
June 7:30
July 7:30
August 7:00
September 6:30
October 6:00
November 5:30
December 5:30
All times above correspond to Central Standard Time (CST)
*** NOTE: All Sunrise / Sunset times specified on FCC AM broadcast license authorizations will be made using local STANDARD time (not advanced or daylight saving time). ***
 
I might point out a daytimer is required to broadcast 2/3rds of the time 6am to 6pm Monday through Saturday. Not operating on Sunday is fine. For example KYND could operate 8 to 4 or 9 to 5 Mon. - Sat., if they chose to do so.
 
b-turner said:
I might point out a daytimer is required to broadcast 2/3rds of the time 6am to 6pm Monday through Saturday. Not operating on Sunday is fine. For example KYND could operate 8 to 4 or 9 to 5 Mon. - Sat., if they chose to do so.
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In fact, there was an AM on 1530 in Lapeer, Michigan, which signed off about 2 hours before sunset for many years due to the critical hours interference from WCKY in Cincinnati, OH, which made even local coverage subject to interference. That was, of course, legal.
 
Good points -- the FCC station operating times are "authorized," but are not necessarily the actual times of broadcast.
That station in Lapeer, Michigan might have signed off early in the past, but in 2011, it was fined by the FCC for operating past its licensed sign-off time.
WLCO's Chief Engineer found that a transmitter control unit battery had failed, so the transmitter operated past its "authorized" shutdown time. (insert Energizer-Bunny frowny face here)
https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2012/06/fcc_fines_townsquare_media_of.html
 
ThatVoice22 said:
Good points -- the FCC station operating times are "authorized," but are not necessarily the actual times of broadcast.
That station in Lapeer, Michigan might have signed off early in the past, but in 2011, it was fined by the FCC for operating past its licensed sign-off time.
WLCO's Chief Engineer found that a transmitter control unit battery had failed, so the transmitter operated past its "authorized" shutdown time. (insert Energizer-Bunny frowny face here)
https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2012/06/fcc_fines_townsquare_media_of.html
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When I lived in Northwest PA, 80 miles Southeast of Erie..I could hear WLCO around sunset. Here's a clip:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_ltLllhoeInY2TDAkVLKcotMpugP9q0P/view?usp=sharing
 
I'm beginning to think that KYND has essentially been abandoned by the owners. They should have done a fire sale long ago.

Meanwhile, KULF 1090 has been missing for several weeks.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
I'm beginning to think that KYND has essentially been abandoned by the owners. They should have done a fire sale long ago.

Meanwhile, KULF 1090 has been missing for several weeks.
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And what's interesting is 1090 WILD, Boston MA which also runs China Radio International is off the air .. both licensees have different corporate names but are owned by the same people
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
When I lived in Northwest PA, 80 miles Southeast of Erie..I could hear WLCO around sunset. Here's a clip:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_ltLllhoeInY2TDAkVLKcotMpugP9q0P/view?usp=sharing
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Good catch, very clear recording -- the mp3 file is marked as 737 EDT in September, that was 8 minutes prior to its FCC-required sign-off time of 745 EDT, another great example of AM signals traveling much farther toward sunset (and near sunrise). The remarkable part is that 5KW WLCO would be approximately 200 air miles to the southeast from your location at the time in Pennsylvania -- and its signal pattern is highly directional to the north-northeast toward the "thumb" of Michigan -- and pointed away from Detroit, Cleveland and Erie. Plus, the audio didn't have a hint of Cincinnati's dominant 50 KW clear channel signal of WCKY on 1530. WLCO was probably required to have such a directional signal in order to protect WCKY.
WLCO: https://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WLCO&service=AM&h=D&z=o
WCKY: https://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WCKY&service=AM&h=D&z=o
 
KYND

Heard KOKC? on 1520 AM at 4:50PM Thursday. Question, if KYND WAS BROADCASTING, would there be interference from KOKC at that time of day?
 
easy answer: at the 25,000 watt power level, and KOKC being at 10,000 watts following the Moore tornado, the answer is KYND would wipe out KOKC in all but fringe areas. When KYND is off the air, KOKC can be heard especially near sunrise and sunset or on a very low cloud level day, especially foggy conditions.
 
b-turner said:
When KYND is off the air, KOKC can be heard especially near sunrise and sunset or on a very low cloud level day, especially foggy conditions.
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Clouds and fog have little to do with it. About two hours before sunset, and up to two hours after sunrise, you can have ionospheric propagation for medium wave signals. This is more pronounced in the months around the winter solstice, and skywave propagation is somewhat better in the high end of the AM band. These are the so-called critical hours where many AM stations have power levels and antenna patterns that are different from the day and night parameters due to enhanced (but not nighttime) skywave conditions.

Sometimes residual skywave can linger all day long. I have heard WHO in Des Moines on a late winter morning here in Houston. Numerous other reported instances of medium wave signals traveling exceptional distances during the day.

Skywave aside, I have found that the best medium wave groundwave propagation occurs during cold winter months when there has been widespread rainfall along the signal path.

KOKC has been regularly heard well past sunrise and well before sunset here in Houston following the apparent demise of KYND, which has been silent the past two months.
 
I worked KYND almost 26 years. When extensively cloudy and wet, KYND had a tendency to be swallowed up by KOKC when it was 3,000 watts (not at the 25 kw. power) but wasn't on clear days. Sure, it was always worse during critical hours or the first hour or two after sunrise. You are correct the issue was greater in winter months. I spent lots of time with complaining clients about this and I distinctly recall those horrible drives when spray from vehicles ahead of you made visibility virtually zero. I was the one that got to say yes or no on a rate credit, so I would go to them and listen for myself. They usually had a legit complaint.
 
NO TO KYND

Well I went down to KYND transmitter and looked over everything they had. Just a transmitter and property. Also looked at Sunrise/Sunset time table. Did not realize I would only be on air for that brief of time. Decided not to do the deal. Still asking too much $$$ for what little on air, in my opinion.
 
Bruce Turner knows why KYND is DEAD AIR, until a new owner is found that is willing to tolerate a narrow day-time window of profitability.
KOKC rules mornings and near sunset.
 
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