BILL Turner no longer works at KYND. .and dead air is different then off air.. and KYND appears to be completely off.
Cant you at least get basic facts right?
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BILL Turner no longer works at KYND. .and dead air is different then off air.. and KYND appears to be completely off.
Cant you at least get basic facts right?
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AnyHuman
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If I were KYND's owners I would have just sold it a long time ago to someone with a radio passion, maybe a religious operator.
One of the issues is that there are more AM stations for sale than buyers. Many are inferior facilities without translators, and have lost most of their value. Many sit on land that is worth more than the station.
With many nations ending or downsizing the AM herd, we likely can expect limited signal or daytime AMs to disappear permanently.
KYND's daytime coverage was pretty exceptional with everything working as it should. It covered Houston and the metro quite well. When they upgraded, they bought farmland. I'm guessing at best but I bet they got enough for that land they had on Cypress-Rosehill to pay for the new location property, all the equipment and engineering. They didn't opt for nighttime and considering the expense and coverage, nighttime was just not worth it. A translator, however, was turned down. They didn't want to invest in it. It seemed they didn't believe what I was telling them. (and no Isreal Tellez was not rebroadcasting KYND in Dilley, Texas, some 150 miles away with another 1520 maybe 30 miles away - KQQB).
What was happening in Houston was not so much the value of the AM station but rather there are more stations brokering their airtime to programmers than there are programmers buying time. The rate literally fell to 50% and was not going back up by the time I left KYND.
AM daytimers like KYND, regardless of it's 25,000 watt signal, is a dying breed of station. Maybe they can find someone to lease it for about $20,000 a month. Even so, they never considered any $20,000 offer I took to them , saying they needed to go up to $25,000 or $30,000 a month in a year. I personally feel that with the current market, it would be best to find a way to live at the $20,000 range perpetually. In fact, I'd be willing to do a rent to own contract if I was the name on the license. The owners are good people, just not radio people.
What was happening in Houston was not so much the value of the AM station but rather there are more stations brokering their airtime to programmers than there are programmers buying time. The rate literally fell to 50% and was not going back up by the time I left KYND.
AM daytimers like KYND, regardless of it's 25,000 watt signal, is a dying breed of station. Maybe they can find someone to lease it for about $20,000 a month. Even so, they never considered any $20,000 offer I took to them , saying they needed to go up to $25,000 or $30,000 a month in a year. I personally feel that with the current market, it would be best to find a way to live at the $20,000 range perpetually. In fact, I'd be willing to do a rent to own contract if I was the name on the license. The owners are good people, just not radio people.
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Some advised me to do that. However the Religious station that I was looking at IS STILL recovering from Harvey.
I would think a lot of programmers that once would have used AM radio for distribution have now turned to the internet with its social media and podcasting capabilities, particularly for reaching younger demographics.
Bill is right, and I have made the same point a few times in the past: We have reached an oversaturation point in the Houston market for the brokered time broadcasting model. Note that both KYND and KULF have been off the air for quite a while. And I'm really interested to see who buys KNTH, how much it sells for, and what a new owner does with the signal. This may be the "downsizing the AM herd" that David Eduardo mentions in his earlier post.
That is true in so many markets... just in Texas you have Dallas and San Antonio with a non-viable excess of AMs, and smaller markets like El Paso and Corpus with little AM listening and even stations going silent.
Places like Atlanta, Birmingham, Mobile and Little Rock also have the same situation with too many bad signals or daytimers and just not enough people wanting to buy time or to lease the station.
The programmers I talked to figured online to be very minimal but a broadcast signal was viable and required. I suspect many of the potential former AM clients have opted to lease an HD channel and a translator in the segment of Houston most important to them. This is not to say online presence doesn't matter but the reality is you get more listeners and more advertising via the on air than you could expect from online. You might get 20 or 30 at a time online but 2,000 to 3,000 via the same programming broadcast on radio. And the over the air listener tends to listen about twice as long per listening session as the online listener,
ThatVoice22
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I know "b-turner" doesn't work at KYND anymore -- I never said he was there now because I know he's north of Dallas now -- but he did work at KYND for years and still has great comments on here. You're seeing things that aren't there and your punctuation is terrible. To quote you, "Can't you at least get basic facts right?"
There is some paid content on a few of the Houston AM stations, at least on Sunday AM when I go to work at my AM. (Sorry, just trying to be funny.) While the COX FM stations are airing their public affairs programs simultaneously, one or two of the Houston AM stations airs paid programming. Maybe advertisers / paid content producers are afraid that since KYND and KULF are already off the air, why bother with a station is not on air all the time?
When the station was on every day sunrise to sunset it was the same way. The rates they want are too much for the market. In addition, the ownership did not want to lease by the hour but all the hours. You said you'd seen the facility. You know there is no studio, no computer automation and no warm body to switch programs if they went with a few people buying say, Sundays or anything less than the entire broadcast day.
ThatVoice22
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KYND - yes - is back on the air, for how long nobody knows. At 220pm today, I heard "b-turner" loud & proud on that loop announcement looking for that next elusive KYND contract, followed by some oldies music. Bill should certainly be entitled to royalties at some point. By 450pm, KYND had disappeared again, even though their December sign-off time is 530pm. Not surprisingly, KOKC in Oklahoma City was coming in rather well by then.
What were they playing? Music, talk?
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AnyHuman
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Is it still the same disconnected phone number on the loop?
the staton is getting more attention and listeners from this thread then anyone randomly happening upon it in the community
KYND is still on the air alright, running that same Bill Turner loop seeking people to buy time...... running WELL after dark on Saturday February 29th.
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