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Fresno / Central Valley KYNO's transmitter turning on and off for some reason

They are installing a new transmitter, John O mentioned it on his Facebook page, they are also putting in a new grounding system, which the copper wiring was stolen last year.
 
I'm curious. How much would that new transmitter cost? And why would anyone spend such a large amount for an AM station? Why not just buy a lower powered rig if most of your listening was on your FM translator?
 
I'm curious. How much would that new transmitter cost? And why would anyone spend such a large amount for an AM station? Why not just buy a lower powered rig if most of your listening was on your FM translator?
I don't think a high power transmitter itself would be the cost issue, but the power bill could be. I don't think KYNO has an FM translator and the FM dial is crowded in Fresno.

The owner is will connected in the community and probably does well with his stations by keeping the overhead relatively low and relying on local advertising which seems to be friendlier to older demos. KYNO is loved by it's owner, a small number of diehard fans and about a dozen or two people who refuse to let go of AM radio ;).
 
I'm curious. How much would that new transmitter cost? And why would anyone spend such a large amount for an AM station? Why not just buy a lower powered rig if most of your listening was on your FM translator?
I don't think a high power transmitter itself would be the cost issue, but the power bill could be. I don't think KYNO has an FM translator and the FM dial is crowded in Fresno.

The owner is will connected in the community and probably does well with his stations by keeping the overhead relatively low and relying on local advertising which seems to be friendlier to older demos. KYNO is loved by it's owner, a small number of diehard fans and about a dozen or two people who refuse to let go of AM radio ;).

Back when WWBC 1510 bought a 50kw transmitter about 20 years ago, it was like $150,000 I recall Ray Kassis telling me, so its more now.

50kw full time has to be $15-20K a month power bill
 
50kw full time has to be $15-20K a month power bill

thats based on what a 10kw full time am transmitter costs in a city in alaska whos electric rates are roughly the same as fresnos.... the station i refer to pays $6500-$7000
 
The NX50 can easily run MDCL. Go into the menu activate it, chose the type of MDCL and the compression. That will save them money. Their power bill with MDCL on $4000 to $4500.

This is what my power from PSE (Puget Sound Energy) costs. These rates go into effect 8/1/25. Base rate, $465.54, Demand $10.53 and Per KWh 10.3254 cents
In July a 50KW day, 5KW night using MDCL during the Day mode. $2400.00 This station does not run air conditioning.

Being that KYNO is in Fresno, California I bet they do use air conditioning. Running MDCL would save them power in several ways. The transmitter generates less heat, Saves power. The air conditioner has to work less and saves power. Not knowing their power rates, they should be able to keep the power bill under $5k.

NX50 sticker price in 2018 was $122,116.00 This is just a guess for a 2025 price, $150,000.00
 
The NX50 can easily run MDCL. Go into the menu activate it, chose the type of MDCL and the compression. That will save them money. Their power bill with MDCL on $4000 to $4500.

This is what my power from PSE (Puget Sound Energy) costs. These rates go into effect 8/1/25. Base rate, $465.54, Demand $10.53 and Per KWh 10.3254 cents
In July a 50KW day, 5KW night using MDCL during the Day mode. $2400.00 This station does not run air conditioning.

Being that KYNO is in Fresno, California I bet they do use air conditioning. Running MDCL would save them power in several ways. The transmitter generates less heat, Saves power. The air conditioner has to work less and saves power. Not knowing their power rates, they should be able to keep the power bill under $5k.

NX50 sticker price in 2018 was $122,116.00 This is just a guess for a 2025 price, $150,000.00

What is the electric rate in Fresno? I found something saying near 40c kwh hour for businesses. Thats roughly the same rate I found for the 10kw AM up here, whos power bill is $6000-6500 a month.

a 50kw am even running MDCL is going to be near that
 
And it's American made!
Technically NORTH American made ---- IIRC, Nautel's main plant is in New Brunswick, Canada.....
Some units may be assembled in Bangor, ME....I was under the impression that Bangor was Nautel's office site only....
Regardless of location....Nautel puts out some really great transmitters! Built like tanks --- made to LAST!!:)
Service after the sale is also exceptional......
 
Technically NORTH American made ---- IIRC, Nautel's main plant is in New Brunswick, Canada.....
Some units may be assembled in Bangor, ME....I was under the impression that Bangor was Nautel's office site only....
Regardless of location....Nautel puts out some really great transmitters! Built like tanks --- made to LAST!!:)
Service after the sale is also exceptional......
because of tariff concerns, i think more of the work was shifted to bangor.
 
Now I wish KYNO would upgrade its online stream. 32 kbit/s HE-AAC is a good option for dial-up users. But there are less of those left today than shortwave listeners.

If they really want to stick with that bitrate for the most bandwidth-limited users, it would be wonderful if they at least made an additional 192 kbit/s or even 256 kbit/s AAC-LC stream available as an "HD" option.
 
I noticed in one of the newer transmitter site tour Youtube videos that KFI also has a new Nautel in service as its main transmitter. Does today's broadcast engineering community even still send much money Harris' way? I've seen unflattering comments online about the brand given certain business decisions they've made to design and sell specialized hardware to certain buyers other than radio.
 
Now I wish KYNO would upgrade its online stream. 32 kbit/s HE-AAC is a good option for dial-up users. But there are less of those left today than shortwave listeners.

If they really want to stick with that bitrate for the most bandwidth-limited users, it would be wonderful if they at least made an additional 192 kbit/s or even 256 kbit/s AAC-LC stream available as an "HD" option.
This from KYNO.
Yeah, we’ve played with the idea. It’s been on the back burner until this site re-build is completed.
It will likely be something we look at in the near future. Out of all of our 5 formats, it is the most streamed by far.

128K AAC Plus would be fine. Unless you have great speakers, you wont notice the difference between 128 and 256.. except the owner will see a higher bill for streaming.

I used Starlink and 128K AAC plus to feed KSKO audio from a music festival at a park.. it was flawless and sounded GREAT
 


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