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KZLA: Buck who?

R

Radiogeek500

It sure seems that way. No mention of his passing on their website and no mention by the DJs! I checked yes.net and NO spins of any Buck Owens songs, but there sure is a lotta Van Zant, Rascal Flatts and Gretchen stuff. I know KZLA is mass appeal country for LA, but geeez, not even acknowledging a legend?<P ID="signature">______________
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> It sure seems that way. No mention of his passing on their
> website and no mention by the DJs! I checked yes.net and NO
> spins of any Buck Owens songs, but there sure is a lotta Van
> Zant, Rascal Flatts and Gretchen stuff. I know KZLA is mass
> appeal country for LA, but geeez, not even acknowledging a
> legend?
>
They also didn't recognize Power 106's 20th anniversary. I guess they aren't very sentimental over at Emmis... seems odd.

Being nice and acknowledging people is just good etiquette.
 
> > It sure seems that way. No mention of his passing on their
>
> > website and no mention by the DJs! I checked yes.net and
> NO
> > spins of any Buck Owens songs, but there sure is a lotta
> Van
> > Zant, Rascal Flatts and Gretchen stuff. I know KZLA is
> mass
> > appeal country for LA, but geeez, not even acknowledging a
>
> > legend?
> >
> They also didn't recognize Power 106's 20th anniversary. I
> guess they aren't very sentimental over at Emmis... seems
> odd.
>
> Being nice and acknowledging people is just good etiquette.
>
I answered this question on the Atlanta board. Look under the "Kicks" link.
 
> They also didn't recognize Power 106's 20th anniversary. I
> guess they aren't very sentimental over at Emmis... seems
> odd.

I just about had a fit when a "transitional" PD at one of the stations I was with decided to do a major 25th Anniversary show. It took several years to recover from that giant screw up where we incessantly told the listeners the stations was OLD... and then saw it come back in our perceptual research for month after month after month.

It would be worse for a yonger demo station like Power to try to brand by heritage vs. hipness.
 
> > They also didn't recognize Power 106's 20th anniversary. I
>
> > guess they aren't very sentimental over at Emmis... seems
> > odd.
>
> I just about had a fit when a "transitional" PD at one of
> the stations I was with decided to do a major 25th
> Anniversary show. It took several years to recover from that
> giant screw up where we incessantly told the listeners the
> stations was OLD... and then saw it come back in our
> perceptual research for month after month after month.
>
> It would be worse for a yonger demo station like Power to
> try to brand by heritage vs. hipness.
>
David:

I respectfully disagree. One of the most noted radio shows in America is the annual summer show put on by WXKS/Boston. They just celebrated their 20th anniversary show in 2005 - and I hear it was amazing.

I think you can be hip - without being old. I think there's something about being a market leader for 20 years.
 
I agree with David.
That's Boston, not LA.
There are generations of people living in Boston. It's one of those places where people sometimes frown upon too much change. There's lots of people there who've been there forever, and who'll probably be there forever. Boston has many many stations that have had the same call letters for years.
WBZ
WXKS
WRKO
WFNX
WBCN
WBOS
WEEI
WROR (actually on a different frequency now)
WMJX
These call letters were around for 20 years or more.

Can you say that about LA? I don't think so. It seems to me that the population of LA in 2006 is vastly different than the population of LA from 20 years ago, or even 6 years ago.


> David:
>
> I respectfully disagree. One of the most noted radio shows
> in America is the annual summer show put on by WXKS/Boston.
> They just celebrated their 20th anniversary show in 2005 -
> and I hear it was amazing.
>
> I think you can be hip - without being old. I think there's
> something about being a market leader for 20 years.
>
 
KGGI has been on top for 25 years in the I.E. (not that different) and they did a celebration in 2004 for that...

I think - if executed properly - it can be done.

I guess I am a believer in respecting history.

Ironically, KMET was a heritage AOR for 18 years and will always be remembered in L.A. - but it's successor - KTWV will be 20 years old next February 14.

Who would've believed it?

Think about the FM stations that have been in their formats at least 20 years in L.A.

KZLA (over 25)
KTWV (20 next year)
KLOS (some sort of Rock for over 35 years)
KKBT
KRTH (over 30)
KJLH (over 25)
KIIS (about 25)
KOST (25 next year)
KBIG (over 20)
KPWR (20 this year)
KROQ (over 25 now)
KLVE (I think now over 30 - David will know for sure).

KBUE will be 15 next year I believe...







> I agree with David.
> That's Boston, not LA.
> There are generations of people living in Boston. It's one
> of those places where people sometimes frown upon too much
> change. There's lots of people there who've been there
> forever, and who'll probably be there forever. Boston has
> many many stations that have had the same call letters for
> years.
> WBZ
> WXKS
> WRKO
> WFNX
> WBCN
> WBOS
> WEEI
> WROR (actually on a different frequency now)
> WMJX
> These call letters were around for 20 years or more.
>
> Can you say that about LA? I don't think so. It seems to me
> that the population of LA in 2006 is vastly different than
> the population of LA from 20 years ago, or even 6 years ago.
>
>
>
> > David:
> >
> > I respectfully disagree. One of the most noted radio shows
>
> > in America is the annual summer show put on by
> WXKS/Boston.
> > They just celebrated their 20th anniversary show in 2005 -
>
> > and I hear it was amazing.
> >
> > I think you can be hip - without being old. I think
> there's
> > something about being a market leader for 20 years.
> >
>
 
> These call letters were around for 20 years or more.
>
> Can you say that about LA? I don't think so.

KIIS-FM, KZLA, KOST, KBIG, KLVE, KRTH, KLOS, and KROQ have all had their calls for more than 25 years.

So, I guess I <u>can</u> say that about L.A.<P ID="signature">______________


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> Think about the FM stations that have been in their formats
> at least 20 years in L.A.
>

> KKBT

Nope. KKBT only has a heritage going back to 1989, when 92.3 flipped from Classical to the disastrous "rock with a beat" format. The Urban format came in 1990 or 1991 (and the frequency switch with Mega 100.3 was around 1995 or 1996, IIRC).

> KBIG (over 20)

KBIG was still Beautiful/EZ in 1986.<P ID="signature">______________


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> > Think about the FM stations that have been in their
> formats
> > at least 20 years in L.A.
> >
>
> > KKBT
>
> Nope. KKBT only has a heritage going back to 1989, when
> 92.3 flipped from Classical to the disastrous "rock with a
> beat" format. The Urban format came in 1990 or 1991 (and
> the frequency switch with Mega 100.3 was around 1995 or
> 1996, IIRC).
>
> > KBIG (over 20)
>
> KBIG was still Beautiful/EZ in 1986.
>
KKBT started Urban in 1990 - you are correct (after six months with that horrible format).

I thought KBIG switched in 1985 ...
 
Re: L.A./O.C. Calls

> > > Think about the FM stations that have been in their
> > formats
> > > at least 20 years in L.A.
> > >
> >
> > > KKBT
> >
> > Nope. KKBT only has a heritage going back to 1989, when
> > 92.3 flipped from Classical to the disastrous "rock with a
>
> > beat" format. The Urban format came in 1990 or 1991 (and
> > the frequency switch with Mega 100.3 was around 1995 or
> > 1996, IIRC).
> >
> > > KBIG (over 20)
> >
> > KBIG was still Beautiful/EZ in 1986.
> >
> KKBT started Urban in 1990 - you are correct (after six
> months with that horrible format).
>
> I thought KBIG switched in 1985 ...

L.A. call letters for the last 25 years if I am correct (there may be a couple that have slipped my mind)

92.3 - KFAC, KKBT, KCMG, KHHT
92.7 - KNJO, KMLT
93.1 - KNX-FM, KKHR, KNX-FM, KODJ, KCBS-FM
93.5 - KFOX, KMJR, KFSG, KZAB, KDAY
93.9 - KZLA
94.3 - KGIL-FM, KMGX, KBUA
94.3 - KIKF, KMXN, KEBN
94.7 - KMET, KTWV
95.5 - KLOS
95.9 - KEZY, KXMX, KFSH
96.3 - KFSG, KXOL
96.7 - KWIZ
97.1 - KHTZ, KBZT, KLSX
97.9 - KNOB, KSKQ, KLAX
98.3 - KBOB, KRTO, KRCV
98.7 - KJOI, KXEZ, KYSR
99.5 - KHOF, KKLA
100.3 - KIQQ, KQLZ, KXEZ, KIBB, KCMG, KKBT
101.1 - KRTH
101.9 - KUTE, KMPC-FM, KEDG, KLIT, KSCA
102.3 - KJLH
102.7 - KIIS
103.1 - KSRF, KACD, KSSC, KDLD (I think I am missing one set)
103.1 - KOCN, KBCD, KSSD, KDLE
103.5 - KOST
103.9 - KACE, KRCD
104.3 - KBIG
105.1 - KKGO, KMZT
105.5 - KNAC, KBUE
105.9 - KWST, KMGG, KPWR
106.3 - KYMS, KALI
106.7 - KROQ
107.1 - KMAX, KLYY, KSSE
107.5 - KLVE
 
K-Frog did a tribute to him this morning on the Frogmen Show. They played "Streets of Bakersfield" and a montage of his biggest hits.

> It sure seems that way. No mention of his passing on their
> website and no mention by the DJs! I checked yes.net and NO
> spins of any Buck Owens songs, but there sure is a lotta Van
> Zant, Rascal Flatts and Gretchen stuff. I know KZLA is mass
> appeal country for LA, but geeez, not even acknowledging a
> legend?
>
<P ID="signature">______________
Find Me If You Can</P>
 
This has nothing to do with Buck Owens. The same guy who is always posting about the good old days of Power 106 started this. Enough! Back to the topic.


> I agree with David.
> That's Boston, not LA.
> There are generations of people living in Boston. It's one
> of those places where people sometimes frown upon too much
> change. There's lots of people there who've been there
> forever, and who'll probably be there forever. Boston has
> many many stations that have had the same call letters for
> years.
> WBZ
> WXKS
> WRKO
> WFNX
> WBCN
> WBOS
> WEEI
> WROR (actually on a different frequency now)
> WMJX
> These call letters were around for 20 years or more.
>
> Can you say that about LA? I don't think so. It seems to me
> that the population of LA in 2006 is vastly different than
> the population of LA from 20 years ago, or even 6 years ago.
>
>
>
> > David:
> >
> > I respectfully disagree. One of the most noted radio shows
>
> > in America is the annual summer show put on by
> WXKS/Boston.
> > They just celebrated their 20th anniversary show in 2005 -
>
> > and I hear it was amazing.
> >
> > I think you can be hip - without being old. I think
> there's
> > something about being a market leader for 20 years.
> >
>
 
Re: L.A./O.C. Calls

> L.A. call letters for the last 25 years if I am correct
> (there may be a couple that have slipped my mind)

This is great! I'll add a few ...

> 92.3 - KFAC-FM, KKBT, KCMG, KHHT
> 92.7 - KNJO, KMLT
> 93.1 - KNX-FM, KKHR, KNX-FM, KODJ, KCBS-FM
> 93.5 - KKOP, KFOX, KMJR, KFSG, KZAB, KDAY
> 93.9 - KPOL-FM, KZLA
> 94.3 - KVFM, KGIL-FM, KMGX, KYKF, KBUA
> 94.3 - KGGK, KTBT, KORJ, KIKF, KMXN, KEBN
> 94.7 - KRHM, KMET, KTWV
> 95.5 - KABC-FM, KLOS
> 95.9 - KEZY-FM, KXMX, KFSH
> 96.3 - KRKD-FM, KFSG, KXOL
> 96.7 - KWIZ-FM
> 97.1 - KGBS-FM, KHTZ, KBZT, KLSX
> 97.9 - KNOB, KSKQ, KLAX
> 98.3 - KBOB, KRTO, KRCV
> 98.7 - KCBH, KJOI, KXEZ, KYSR
> 99.5 - KHOF-FM, KKLA
> 100.3 - KMPC-FM, KMLA, KFOX-FM, KIQQ, KQLZ, KXEZ, KIBB, KCMG, KKBT
> 101.1 - KHJ-FM*, KRTH
> 101.9 - KUTE, KMPC-FM, KEDG, KLIT, KSCA
> 102.3 - KJLH
> 102.7 - KLAC-FM, KRHM, KKDJ, KIIS
> 103.1 - KSRF, KACD, KSSC, KDLD

> (I think I am missing one set)

Believe it or not, no, you didn't. Even with all those format changes, there have only been four sets of call letters on the 103.1s ...

> 103.1 - KOCN, KBCD, KSSD, KDLE
> 103.5 - KGLA, KADS, KOST
> 103.9 - KTYM-FM, KACE, KRCD
> 104.3 - KPLA, KBIG-FM, KXTZ, KBIG
> 105.1 - KCLI, KDBX, KBCA, KKGO, KMZT
> 105.5 - KNAC, KBUE
> 105.9 - KFI-FM, KBMS, KWST, KMGG, KPWR
> 106.3 - KYMS, KALI-FM
> 106.7 - KPPC-FM, KROQ
> 107.1 - KMAX, KLYY, KSSE
> 107.5 - KBBI, KPSA, KLVE

* - By most accounts, KHJ-FM was the first FM in Los Angeles, having signed on in 1941.<P ID="signature">______________


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> The Urban format came in 1990 or 1991 (and
> the frequency switch with Mega 100.3 was around 1995 or
> 1996, IIRC).

Actually, the frequency swap between 92.3 and 100.3 was in late June 2000. I lived in the area during the frequency swap. I also remember the aircheck being posted as an mp3 file on Napster (remember that?) Wasn't 100.3 KXEZ in 1995? I think it was 1997 or 1998 when it became Mega (after it was B-100 of course.)
 
> > These call letters were around for 20 years or more.
> >
> > Can you say that about LA? I don't think so.
>
> KIIS-FM, KZLA, KOST, KBIG, KLVE, KRTH, KLOS, and KROQ have
> all had their calls for more than 25 years.
>
> So, I guess I can say that about L.A.
>
I've been checked mated....

But do you agree that the population/audience in the LA does change more frequently?
 
KROQ has been telling anyone who will listen that they are "World Famous" for over twenty years now. Don't think their incessant reminders of their heritage have hurt them too much.


> I just about had a fit when a "transitional" PD at one of
> the stations I was with decided to do a major 25th
> Anniversary show. It took several years to recover from that
> giant screw up where we incessantly told the listeners the
> stations was OLD... and then saw it come back in our
> perceptual research for month after month after month.
>
> It would be worse for a yonger demo station like Power to
> try to brand by heritage vs. hipness.
>
 
100.3

> > The Urban format came in 1990 or 1991 (and
> > the frequency switch with Mega 100.3 was around 1995 or
> > 1996, IIRC).
>
> Actually, the frequency swap between 92.3 and 100.3 was in
> late June 2000. I lived in the area during the frequency
> swap. I also remember the aircheck being posted as an mp3
> file on Napster (remember that?) Wasn't 100.3 KXEZ in 1995?
> I think it was 1997 or 1998 when it became Mega (after it
> was B-100 of course.)

I'll defer to Tim's recollections, as the 100.3 frequency became something of a blur in my mind (and probably most of the listeners' minds) during the 90s with all the format and call letter changes.

A good clue as to when it was KXEZ would be to determine when 98.7 dropped that format to become Star. There was about a year delay before the calls and format resurfaced on 100.3 (which replaced the all-New Wave format*, referred to only by the frequency, after Pirate Radio was shown the door). And KXEZ didn't last long before B100 replaced it (no hyphen; the San Diego B-100 was the one with the hyphen).

See what I mean about blurring?

* - "100.3" may not have actually been an all-New Wave format, but everytime I tuned it in during that period, that's what they were playing ...<P ID="signature">______________


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> It sure seems that way. No mention of his passing on their
> website and no mention by the DJs! I checked yes.net and NO
> spins of any Buck Owens songs, but there sure is a lotta Van
> Zant, Rascal Flatts and Gretchen stuff. I know KZLA is mass
> appeal country for LA, but geeez, not even acknowledging a
> legend?

Either that or Emmis seems to be in the "Amnesia" business of not remembering their stations' or artists' heritage.
 
> But do you agree that the population/audience in the LA does
> change more frequently?

I wouldn't phrase it precisely that way, Garrett, but I would agree that the demographics of this market have changed significantly in the past 25 years, especially in the percentage of Spanish speakers.<P ID="signature">______________


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