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Larry Elder Leaves KABC - Today; Changes in Dodgers TV Booth
- Thread starter RicoGregg
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I used to be a loyal "Elderado" especially in the 90's, however he became much less compelling when he sold his libertarian views down the river and started schilling for his friend David Drier and the Republican Party.
It's too bad though because he was still usually a pretty intresting listen on the few occasions when John and Ken were not talking about something relevant to me.
His ratings used to be pretty solid but I think they have slid in recent years as John and Ken have won over many listeners. A 15 year run in a major market like LA is a major accomplishment and Larry has much to be proud of.
It's too bad though because he was still usually a pretty intresting listen on the few occasions when John and Ken were not talking about something relevant to me.
His ratings used to be pretty solid but I think they have slid in recent years as John and Ken have won over many listeners. A 15 year run in a major market like LA is a major accomplishment and Larry has much to be proud of.
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4UH8SIMBKAGN
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David Drier is a RINO and John and Ken have done a nice job on him (Drier also hides the same secret that Ken does). John and Ken are much more entertaining than Larry Elder. This is an entertainment town and there is no way you're going to win unless you are outrageous or entertaining. I could see Bill Cunningham do well if he was in L.A.. Nobody is going to do well against John and Ken unless they are live, local as well as entertaining/outrageous.
The last time I found Larry Elder mildly entertaining was when he would talk during the last hour of his show on Friday's with his now deceased mom, Viola Elder.
There is no way Al Rantal is going to last in that shift.
The last time I found Larry Elder mildly entertaining was when he would talk during the last hour of his show on Friday's with his now deceased mom, Viola Elder.
There is no way Al Rantal is going to last in that shift.
I'll miss his libertarian voice on the radio. I totally agree with 4UH8SIMBKAGN , I'm glad Larry Elder is gone and off the air. When we had local news stories breaking John and Ken would be all over it. I would tune into Larry and he would be attacking Hilary Clinton. In hindsight I'm sure Larry would agree that he didn't cover local issues as much as he should have and also he sounded like a broken record. At least once vary from the scripted right wing playbook. That is what makes John and Ken so entertaining and listenable, they do surprise with their opinions at times. They are not like robots.
David at USC said:
I hadn't been listening to Al for a while, but listened last night on my drive home. Your points are accurate according to my ears. OTOH Hannity is becoming unlistenable (and Rush though I didn't listen to Rush all that much) due to his insistance on his opening "theme" of Rev Wright SoundBites etc and Scott Shannon warning "Hold on to your wallets -- Your taxes are going sky high!". Hannity's theme is "Conservatism in Exile". It got old really quick and I for one feel Sean and Rush are out of step with mainstream America. We'll see how all this plays out in the coming months. I'll never forget Rush's "America Held Hostage" during the Clinton Presidency. I think most people are fed up with the partisan rancor right now.
Al Rantel, though a conservative, voted for Obama.
RINO= Republican In Name Only
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4UH8SIMBKAGN
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Sean Hannity's new show on Fox News Channel is getting HIGHER ratings than Hannity & Colmes did (more viewers than HLN, CNN and MSNBC combined during the 6 PM PST slot). Also, Glenn Beck had great ratings during his first two outings on Fox News Channel. Rush is as topical and relevant as ever.SuperRadioFan said:
Partisan rancor dates back to the 18th Century in America. It isn't going to change nor should it. If anyone wants to talk "partisan" we can chat about MSNBC and its ultra liberal "agenda" and pure lies that are presented as news.
As for Rantel, he ain't gonna help KABC one bit in that new time period. For example, on Monday, KFI can be credited for nearly creating the story of week. John & Ken are the radio hosts that first picked up on the Ramos & Compean story from the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin (first paper in the nation to do so...not even in El Paso was it a story), bringing it national and it ultimately leading to Bush commuting their sentences on Monday (the BIGGEST and most important news of the week, imho). Tell me that kind of power to drive a story (nationally, no less), which their audience, including me, eats up is going to be eclipsed by Al Rantel?
Glenn... Maybe you missed the part of my statement "fed up with the partisan rancor right now."
It'll be back after the honeymoon of course. Neither David @ USC nor I believe that Al is a heavyweight influence compared with the likes of J&K. I happen to think Glenn Beck is one of the best and I'm glad he's back on TV again.
It'll be back after the honeymoon of course. Neither David @ USC nor I believe that Al is a heavyweight influence compared with the likes of J&K. I happen to think Glenn Beck is one of the best and I'm glad he's back on TV again.
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4UH8SIMBKAGN
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There is no honeymoon for real conservatives.SuperRadioFan said:
Here's a line from a larger story on Inside Radio: Laura Ingraham rallies.
Several stations appear to believe pundits who think conservative talk radio is poised to be re-energized by a Democratic administration.
I agree. The best times for conservative talkradio is when the other party is in office and you have nowhere to go but up and it's our job to beat them down (and out).
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4UH8SIMBKAGN
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Surprised nobody is posting about the changes at KABC coming Monday 2/2.
I'm certainly not surprised by anything they did. None of it will work.
That said, at least there will be something to listen to up until 11 PM with Al Rantel returning to nights.
Joe Scarborough. I kniew that would happen once he got to WABC gig but give me a break. Like that will ever work against Rush Limbaugh.
I'm certainly not surprised by anything they did. None of it will work.
That said, at least there will be something to listen to up until 11 PM with Al Rantel returning to nights.
Joe Scarborough. I kniew that would happen once he got to WABC gig but give me a break. Like that will ever work against Rush Limbaugh.
I'm not up on the latest changes. Can you please detail what those are?
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
Thought it an odd choice to put Levin live in drive and put Rantel at the tail end of it. To be live and local with traffic updates is much easier with local product. I also imagine that people are a little more eager to buy Rantel than they are Levin...but I guess this comes down to a corporate mandate?
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JoshuaEscandon
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Wow, Larry Elder is out too! I didn't always agree yet found his show interesting and compelling. I'm sure he will be just fine.
I would love to do a talk show! Sounds like a lot of fun. I remember being interviewed by Michael Jackson at KABC in studio many years ago while I was in college. Mr. Jackson definitely gave me the bug to do talk radio one day!
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I would love to do a talk show! Sounds like a lot of fun. I remember being interviewed by Michael Jackson at KABC in studio many years ago while I was in college. Mr. Jackson definitely gave me the bug to do talk radio one day!
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4UH8SIMBKAGN
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Doug McIntyre adds an extra hour to his show, starting Monday 2/2, from 5 to 10 AM followed by the syndicated "Joe Scarborough Show" from 10 AM-NOON. Sean Hannity stays 12-3 PM, Mark Levin will be live from 3-6 PM. Al Rantel moves back into evenings from 6-11 PM. Curtis Sliwa moves to the 11 PM-3 AM. Don Imus continues from 3-5 AM.westfield60 said:
I'm disappointed that DGH couldn't/wouldn't blow up the station more if they had to go heavy syndication. They seem to be the place for flavor-of-the-day conservative talk. That doesn't change and, IMO, limits their growth. I had hoped they try something more daring, like a "Life Improvement" format. Keep Doug McIntrye in the mornings, then go with Dave Ramsey, who's financial advice show is frank and compelling, not to mention extremely topical. Add Clark Howard or Suze Orman, then have a local guy at night kid of like Mr KFI/KABC but general advice for LA living, city hall, traffic issues, general questions, kind of like Handel on the Law. This format would be a clean break and allow them to give the station a fresh image and could give them some alt programming value to KFI. The new ABC Syn heavy line-up is like waving the white flag.
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4UH8SIMBKAGN
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Boring. Entertain me. I would have picked Mancow over Joe Scarborough. Radio's best talk hosts come from a top 40 background. They know how to entertain. Dees should have learned this years ago. He could be liberal radio's top talk host today. Los Angeles expects to be entertained not just have issue oriented talk hosts. KFI understands this but no other talk station in this town gets it.gcreedle239 said:
Totally agree with you 4UH8SIMBKAGN. Station management today simply does not understand the public and frankly that is why they are in the shape they are today. For years KABC neglected the writing on the wall and did nothing to change their lineup. They gave away the top spot which they had held onto for 3 decades. It is sheer incompetence on the part of management and nothing else. They had advertising dollars since the economy was great but absolutely no listeners. They were purely arrogance and complete fools.
The latest moves I guarantee will cause them to disintegrate completely by the heavy synidcated lineup. Do they really think people in LA want to listen to Mark Levin over John and Ken, give me a break. What is the current management thinking? The only thing that makes sense is that syndication is cheaper, but in the long run it will mean the end of this station.
I feel sorry for Al Rantel. He has been tossed around so much at that station that he has become the rag boy of that operation. They have no respect for him.
The latest moves I guarantee will cause them to disintegrate completely by the heavy synidcated lineup. Do they really think people in LA want to listen to Mark Levin over John and Ken, give me a break. What is the current management thinking? The only thing that makes sense is that syndication is cheaper, but in the long run it will mean the end of this station.
I feel sorry for Al Rantel. He has been tossed around so much at that station that he has become the rag boy of that operation. They have no respect for him.
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mred
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levin will bomb against J&K, and the station won't run Savedge. Look like everythings out of NY, HANNITY LEVIN SLEWAH. Beach Boys vs Four Seasons. LA people don't like NY
I love Mark Levin. Began listening to him via the web a few years back, and knew once KABC added him to the lineup he would take over. Sad that the local talent had to go to make this happen though. First Mr. K, then Kevin James. You had to know that Al wasn't going to last in that slot once Mark Levin got the three hour gig. He always wanted to be live in L.A., and now he is. I'm pretty excited about it.
I like Al, but he is too much of a gentleman for afternoon drive. (You can listen to Hewitt for that.) If KABC wants to take on John and Ken (NJ transplants, btw) they need the big guns. It's a gamble. Mark is far more intelligent, hilarious and in your face, but John and Ken have made local their niche. (Remember the disastrous syndication with Disney.)
This will be interesting. As for LA "not liking New York", you might be wrong. I remember when I first moved here, everyone listened to Mark and Brian in the mornings. Growing up with Howard, I couldn't understand why anyone thought they were even the slightest bit amusing. When I would tell people about Howard Stern, they would comment about "New York humor". Well, we all know what happened when he finally got here.
John and Ken are New York Lite. Mark, though he is in D.C., is New York. John and Ken are successful with their mix of New York delivery and local issues. Mark will be more national. But he is the bigger talent.
I like Al, but he is too much of a gentleman for afternoon drive. (You can listen to Hewitt for that.) If KABC wants to take on John and Ken (NJ transplants, btw) they need the big guns. It's a gamble. Mark is far more intelligent, hilarious and in your face, but John and Ken have made local their niche. (Remember the disastrous syndication with Disney.)
This will be interesting. As for LA "not liking New York", you might be wrong. I remember when I first moved here, everyone listened to Mark and Brian in the mornings. Growing up with Howard, I couldn't understand why anyone thought they were even the slightest bit amusing. When I would tell people about Howard Stern, they would comment about "New York humor". Well, we all know what happened when he finally got here.
John and Ken are New York Lite. Mark, though he is in D.C., is New York. John and Ken are successful with their mix of New York delivery and local issues. Mark will be more national. But he is the bigger talent.
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