Let's start overreading the 12+

[radiosaur]

Re: Can't confirm or deny, but...

> Beneath the board. As many personal attacks that people
> throw around here I would have though that right up a lot of
> you guys alley. "Overmodulation", now thats funny, I don''t
> care who you are.

I for one have never thrown anything personal. I don't play in that alley.

And if you don't believe it you're a....never mind


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[classicradionut]

Re: Can't confirm or deny, but...

Okay boys, just a friendly reminder to be nice... as you can I will only say it once, the alleged rumors you guys are talking about don't need to be aired out here.

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[classicradionut]

I personally think that Bush is converting more to
> BLUE, than the party itself ever could.

Violating my non-political post policy, I agree with you on that note, to the extent that Bush is pushing moderate Republicans into the waiting arms of some Democrats... however, don't kid yourself. Just because one believes in not tearing up Social Security and doesn't like Bush's views on Homeland Security does not mean that one will jump in and embrace the full fare of extremist liberalism that the Democratic party represents... the "Blue" party is just one or two steps from Josef Stalin, not a bunch of moderates... so, many are going to stick with Bush, even while grumbling. If the Democrats EVER decide to move back to the center, they'll crush the GOP. But... that'll be the day.

And, for that reason alone (because AAR on WWTQ makes most 'non-ethnic' folks in this town sick to their stomach), that station isn't going to beat 680's former incarnation, let alone WREC. And I'll take you up on that bet... steak and beer - sounds great to me. I'm hungry.<P ID="signature">______________
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[classicradionut]

Re: The Tigers, FM100, 300k and you.

The antenna is simply designed for
> something other than a 1:1 power split in the H and V
> planes. One can't see anything special about the WMC
> antenna, but if it was the roto-tiller design, you would
> notice that the bays looked 'mashed', with the elements
> being closer together in the horizontal plane. It is simply
> a different power ratio between planes.

I'm not an engineer, but my hamming experience tells me that the impedence match becomes much more critical as you increase power. Looking at the tx readings when I'm in there, I notice impedence 1:2 or 1:3 most of the time but it was at 1:5 in the rain last weekend... not good. Consider how much wasted power comes back down the feedline... the light bill must be enormous!

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[CFKane]

Freedom costs $1.05...

> Violating my non-political post policy, I agree with you on
> that note, to the extent that Bush is pushing moderate
> Republicans into the waiting arms of some Democrats...
> however, don't kid yourself. Just because one believes in
> not tearing up Social Security and doesn't like Bush's views
> on Homeland Security does not mean that one will jump in
> and embrace the full fare of extremist liberalism that the
> Democratic party represents... the "Blue" party is just one
> or two steps from Josef Stalin, not a bunch of moderates...
> so, many are going to stick with Bush, even while grumbling.
> If the Democrats EVER decide to move back to the center,
> they'll crush the GOP. But... that'll be the day.

That's stuff is so good, where I would I even begin? Extreme, sure there are certainly those on both sides, and Middle grounders will win out, ultimately. I will leave at that. That paragraph should rest on it's own laurels...


> And, for that reason alone (because AAR on WWTQ makes most
> 'non-ethnic' folks in this town sick to their stomach),

The same folks who get "sick", are the ones who bury their heads in the sand too. They typically need someone else to tell them how they feel about politics. Often requiring a bully pulpit religious organization, to tell them where they stand. They get sick, because they are told too. It happens on both sides, don't get me wrong.

But, most of the lemmings that don't listen to both sides, should be banned from listening to WWTQ anyway. Just point them in the direction of the nearest Toby Keith Record, they'll be okay... Perhaps another boot in the a** song, to tide them over. That's a generalization, but so is, your statement...
> that
> station isn't going to beat 680's former incarnation, let
> alone WREC. And I'll take you up on that bet... steak and
> beer - sounds great to me. I'm hungry.

YOU ARE ON! As far as WREC though, count me out. I am too much of a realist for that. CFKane
>

 

[classicradionut]

> Okay, I will stand by what I said in that AA bills nothing.
> I have heard very few spots on 680, and that tells me that
> they aren't making much $$.

You hit the nail... What makes me laugh is listening during spot breaks - half the break is spent bragging. BRAGGING! As if the whole city is listening, when apparently they can't get the cows in W. Memphis to listen in. I mean, come on. It's one thing to play an imager going into spots, but do we need to hear how the whole city is making the switch, then listen to station staffers pretending to be listeners who say how they love listening to "Progressive Talk Six-Eighty"? I'll tell you what station doing talk the whole city is listening to - WDIA! (On a comparative political field, mind you) Yes, they play music but they do talk also and serve the one audience that IS liberal in this town.

AAR doesn't represent the average Memphian's political views. It does New York or Boston's views but not here. You're probably right about AAR paying Entercom for the airtime. After all, isn't it George Soros' money?

> Let's face it, 'RVR makes the $$ for the
> cluster.

WRVR would make MORE $$ for the cluster if they had a decent station to counter Kix... oh, guess I shouldn't go there huh. Sorry, I call it as I see it. (apologies to Buzzers, nothing personal you're all good peeps)

> Regardless of the #'s, if
> they can't sell it, it will go away in time.

Hell, sometimes when they CAN sell it, it goes away anyway... I cite WCBS-FM in NYC as a prime example. (Yes, it's Infinity not Entercom, I know)

Easy 680 had
> #'s, but they billed diddly squat. Hence...they are gone.
> That's my point. Show me the money.

Well, there are more dynamics to it than that. Using your example, WMC 790 shoulda gone bye-bye by now. Ditto for WHBQ.. but they remain, and probably get more substantial revenue from Anhauser-Busch, Ford Dealers and the various sports contracts than any music or ordinary talk station ever could.

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[classicradionut]

> Jerry Springer is God.
>

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[classicradionut]

Re: Freedom costs $1.05...

> The same folks who get "sick", are the ones who bury their
> heads in the sand too. They typically need someone else to
> tell them how they feel about politics. Often requiring a
> bully pulpit religious organization, to tell them where they
> stand. They get sick, because they are told too. It
> happens on both sides, don't get me wrong.

I don't agree. Look I don't have my head buried in the sand and would agree with you we shouldn't have gone to Iraq... but on matters of social issues, where it counts in my book, Dems went over the edge decades ago. Tell me, where are they on matters of worker's rights? Hmmm, seems to me with NAFTA, etc... they fell asleep at the wheel. That's a GOP item yet they must have been paid off at the same fundraiser. Can you say socialized medical? High taxes? Awww, gimme a break. The Dems are repleat with examples of how much closer to Canada than traditional American values they are. Their liberal judges quote EUROPEAN law instead of the Constitution, for heaven's sake!

And... why have they NEVER countered the Bush administration on Homeland Security, Patriot Act and other liberty-removing issues like that? Strangely silent. THAT'S why people get sick listening to Liberal dribble. Stalinists on the one hand, then flip-floppers on issues that matter on the other. They never get it right. But they could, if they actually cared about the average Joe or the U.S. Constitution.

And yes it does happen on both sides. I work with a couple of guys who think every liberal idea is bad. Won't listen to any reason. Some liberalism is good, just not too much. Right now we have too much conservatism. So we should give the Dems enough power to balance things out, then we have gridlock, nothing gets done, and the people are left alone. That way our politicians can't mess things up. Just don't let liberals run the show for 30 years (1960-1980, minus Nixon), or we get run over.
>
> But, most of the lemmings that don't listen to both sides,
> should be banned from listening to WWTQ anyway. Just point
> them in the direction of the nearest Toby Keith Record,
> they'll be okay... Perhaps another boot in the a** song, to
> tide them over. That's a generalization, but so is, your
> statement...

Aaah, yes, I'm a generalist. I resemble that remark LOL. Hey, I'll agree with ya on condition that people who don't have a brain shouldn't listen to WWTQ - or WREC for that matter. I hear too many brain dead callers already. But Mike Fleming does a good job of shutting the real bad ones down right in their tracks. It just might take him an hour to get it out...

And TOBY KEITH IS MY HERO
just kidding

>
> YOU ARE ON! As far as WREC though, count me out. I am too
> much of a realist for that. CFKane
> >
>

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[CFKane]

> You hit the nail... What makes me laugh is listening during
> spot breaks - half the break is spent bragging. BRAGGING!
> As if the whole city is listening, when apparently they
> can't get the cows in W. Memphis to listen in.

Jeez, imagine how much more it would have upset him, had they claimed anything at ALL. The station, is doomed to fail in the mind of Steve, and people like him, solely based on the fact, he disagrees with it.

Never mind that talk radio is designed to incense, that liberal talk has succeeded... It simply shall not because Steve, has deemed it to fail. By the way, Steve, are you a COW, you are apparently listening??? The fact is, people are listening, they are into it. And they didn't even check with you first.

I thought you were smarter than that? Is someone posting under his name, without his permission?

I mean, come
> on. It's one thing to play an imager going into spots, but
> do we need to hear how the whole city is making the switch,
> then listen to station staffers pretending to be listeners
> who say how they love listening to "Progressive Talk
> Six-Eighty"?

You really think that's station staff? Jeez... These liners wouldn't affect you if the exact same thing was done on KLOVE, would it? WREC run similarly "ourageous" imaging, but no one this board, cares?

Ask Bill, he produces those liners, he can tell you, just how real they are. I have heard the Hotline calls too, they are quite real, and DO come in by the hundreds. I guess it was all station staff that went to the NCRM too, back in april. (NCRM stands for the "Civil Rights Museum", by the way, most WWTQ critics, have never seen THAT from the inside, for clarification.)

> AAR doesn't represent the average Memphian's political
> views.

Please note, Steve (if someone isn't hacking his name)assumes he knows the entire political makeup of Shelby county. Never mind 57.5% of Shelby voted for Kerry. Oh, but that must not be true. And most certainly, all of those folks, are devoted to other stations, entirely... Hey, at least a few cows in West memphis are getting the other side, for a change, right? Wait, all the black cows are taken already, DAMN!

It does New York or Boston's views but not here.
> You're probably right about AAR paying Entercom for the
> airtime. After all, isn't it George Soros' money?


Actually, you are wrong, it's a barter deal. OOPS!

> There are two formats in this business that seem to be
> self-sustaining: Sports and Religion.

REALLY? Sports, the one that only ONE COW is apparently listening to? And Brother Stair is certainly non traditional revenue, on the Religious side.

> Both collect revenue
> in somewhat non-traditional ways but they at least pay the
> light bill and staff costs. Not sure WWTQ can unless the
> network is ponying up for Entercom to carry it.

Even if you, and the other "well wishers" are totally right, and the station is doomed, 680 has accomplished at least one thing. It angers zealots, and that should be reason enough to run it like a tax write off.

Still, it will show it's true colors, when it goes local with Leon. It already had a billboard, lots of press, and even a website. It's more real, than it has been in years. That, in any other format, would be exciting, to radio folks, right? But, because it's liberal talk, it's unfairly demonized, at least here.

Despite, the soothsayers on this board, the station will run it's course. It's going local, and no matter how much of a "neocon" anyone reading this might be, Leon is good, and very fair. Far more realistic, than Fleming ever dreamed of being.

It will be good radio, and that should be enough to warrant something other than, "It'll be gone in a year"... I don't recall even WMQM receiving such a welcome on this board.

Armchair pundits are one thing, but accusing WWTQ, of faking imaging, with station staff? What's really behind that? What did Janeane say to piss you off that much?

Even seeing your last TRULY even handed approach, in your earlier post, I still think someone is hacking into your account, Steve.

Seriously, we have intellectual back and forth a lot, and I don't see you really thinking some of this stuff? I guess I missed something, Seriously? CFKane
>

 

[briancraig]

Leon is good, and
> very fair. Far more realistic, than Fleming ever dreamed of
> being.


You obviously never listened to Leon on WLOK.

The ethnic audience in Memphis may vote solid Democrat, but it would be wrong to say they are liberal.

I can't imagine the WLOK audience enjoying someone like Air America's Mike Malloy who bashes Christians on a daily basis.

 

[radiosaur]

Re: Freedom costs $1.05...

>
> Okay. My choice of venue though.. And, I like my steak
> medium rare, my beer ice cold and my women... oops can't go
> there... thank you.
>

Looks like CF's going to be buying two beverages...or steaks come next July.


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[radiosaur]

Re: Can't confirm or deny, but...

> Okay boys, just a friendly reminder to be nice... as you can
> I will only say it once, the alleged rumors you guys are
> talking about don't need to be aired out here.
>
> That's the official line from your *friendly* moderator
>

Hey, We ARE being nice, and I said it didn't need to be aired. Every previous poster could have outed it...but no one did.

Recall that there was a smiley at the end of my last post. Those late nights are making you touchy! Remember I'm one of your late night listeners...





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[radiosaur]

Re: The Tigers, FM100, 300k and you.

Are you sure you don't mean 1.5 to 1? If the system is still set up the way I built it, VSWR should be about 1.2:1. 1.5:1 in the rain is just fine. If it's really 3:1 or 5:1 then something is very wrong and it shouldn't stay on the air. I'd check those numbers and ask Skip if they really are that high. Of course, I'm talking from about 1997...

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[desechado]

Speaking as a "non-ethnic" person myself, I can say that I'm not the least bit nauseated by what I hear on WWTQ. And judging by the local listener comments that come in to the station, 90% of which are also "non-ethnic", I'd say there was a great deal less sickness brought on by Air America in Memphis than you seem to perceive. Those who are sick to their stomach should remember that sometimes good medicine CAN make one feel queezy. Whether one's disease is cancer, Or parochial thinking. STALIN?? Oy Vey. I think he would have hated AAR more than Pat Robertson does. The only reason most mainstream Americans lean towards W is fear. and going by his numbers, It appears that more and more people ain't as skeered as they used to be. Of course I can't speak for Mike Fleming. Beer's on me comrade.
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[desechado]

Re: Freedom costs $1.05...

You've proven your loyalty Gary. Now let's go and kick some commie ***!!!<P ID="signature">______________
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[classicradionut]

Re: Can't confirm or deny, but...

I guess I am a bit tense. I need a beer.

>
> Recall that there was a smiley at the end of my last post.
> Those late nights are making you touchy! Remember I'm one of
> your late night listeners...
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[CFKane]

Re: Freedom costs $1.05...

> Looks like CF's going to be buying two beverages...or steaks
> come next July.
>
Sure I am... He He... At least it will be good company, no matter who's buying. And my compliments to Steve for ordering Medium Rare, that's rare down here. Look forward to it, no matter who's eating the crow, fellas... CFKane

 

[CFKane]

> You obviously never listened to Leon on WLOK.

You are right, I never heard him on that station. I hear him by the water cooler, no breaks, and more interaction... Dying to hear him on Talk radio, here.
>
> The ethnic audience in Memphis may vote solid Democrat, but
> it would be wrong to say they are liberal.
>
> I can't imagine the WLOK audience enjoying someone like Air
> America's Mike Malloy who bashes Christians on a daily
> basis.
>

Yeah, that's the one flaw I find in Air America, only with some hosts though. Just because someone happens to believe in Christ, it's a bad thing, to some like Malloy. I become a "Rapture Rightist". Just another generalization. CFKane

 

[desechado]

Say what you will about Malloy, Rhodes, and Garafolo. They are a fresh spring breeze after having nothing but the same tired crap shoved through my radio in Memphis for as long as I've been here. And I gotta tell you it sounds a hell of a lot more like the truth than anything else on the dial.If you want to hear bashing, try on WCRV. As far as the "ethnic" audience is concerned, at least they are smart enough to vote in their own best interests . This city has been sick with racial polarity forever. WWTQ is the only unifiying voice people in this area have heard in decades. It's about time. Kane, you are right about Leon too. He's a straight-shooter. And I'm not the only one who thinks so either. Air America is aptly named. It's the most American thing on the Memphis airwaves. And the people who put it on the air aren't stupid. They know it is.

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[radiosaur]

Re: Freedom costs $1.05...

> > Looks like CF's going to be buying two beverages...or
> steaks
> > come next July.
> >
> Sure I am... He He... At least it will be good company, no
> matter who's buying. And my compliments to Steve for
> ordering Medium Rare, that's rare down here. Look forward
> to it, no matter who's eating the crow, fellas... CFKane
>

I'm an easy date, I quit drinking about 8 years ago. Diet Coke for me!



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