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Lew Dickey is too scared to read this!

romer979fm said:
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Did Karla say he isn't working at a station in Colorado? Wasn't there a DJ on a station in Nashville who actually lived in Dallas? Is it not possible that Coyote is VT-ing for this station from Nashville? That station also has Billy Bush as a DJ, and I just watched him on TV saying he is in Hollywood.
 
TheBigA said:
romer979fm said:
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Did Karla say he isn't working at a station in Colorado? Wasn't there a DJ on a station in Nashville who actually lived in Dallas? Is it not possible that Coyote is VT-ing for this station from Nashville? That station also has Billy Bush as a DJ, and I just watched him on TV saying he is in Hollywood.
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Give it up. The guy on the Colorado station's website is NOT the Nashville-based Coyote McCloud. If McCloud is V-T-ing the Colorado station, then that would make the guy on their site an impostor, read: liar!
 
Hmm, guess someone here missed this line from the very site that he linked us to!
Thanks for listening to 92.9 Peak FM and www.929peakfm.com online! were LIVE and LOCAL here in southern colorado, and I, like EVERYONE on PEAK FM, LOVE Colorado! Thank YOU for making Peak FM your place for a "MOUNTAIN OF FAVORITE SONGS"! more fun, more winning, and ALWAYS more music!
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TheBigA said:
romer979fm said:
(always good to check becore you post something as fact)
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Did Karla say he isn't working at a station in Colorado? Wasn't there a DJ on a station in Nashville who actually lived in Dallas? Is it not possible that Coyote is VT-ing for this station from Nashville? That station also has Billy Bush as a DJ, and I just watched him on TV saying he is in Hollywood.
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Billy Bush didn't say anything on his page about being "live and local in southern Colorado." Of course, he couldn't get away with that. Neither could Tom Kent.
 
When I read on Wikipedia that Coyote McCloud was on a station in Colorado Springs, I logged online to listen to him. IT IS NOT "OUR" COYOTE McCLOUD! Anyone can hear the difference!

And the reason Coyote commanded so much money is because he was in radio when radio was legendary. Coyote is not on the air anymore because he wants more money than anyone is willing to pay him. And not because radio doesn't have the money, but they realized that anyone can be bought cheap, especially with syndication and automation overriding business logic. Meanwhile, consultants were taking the fun out of radio, becoming sword-shoving she-devils, and convincing owners that the consultant knew more than the owner. And let's not forget Clinton who signed the FFC Deregulation Act of 1996 that allowed consolidation. Radio no longer has the celebrity status that it used to have. So there's no need to pay good money for top talent. If a top 5 radio station offered me $20,000 to do mornings, I'd take it. I'd have to - because it's more money than I'm making on the beach! And even with my success stories, I'd probably be lucky to make that!
 
BigA. Youre wrong on two facts (I know it's rare --- same for me :) )

1.) Coyote is boat bound here and has nothing to do with THAT other CM.
Confess your sin! :)

2.) To say Nashville is not a big enough market to pay for talent, etc.,
is totally false. It's more that Cruduluss to too cheap and Romer and House
take the entire budget for CC, Hell, Rupert?SCM pays Sarge something like
probably $14M just to play Pina Colada every other hour on Mix (That is totally
me making something stupider than usual up)...

We ain't jist a stopped in the road down heres.
 
Tibbs2 said:
1.) Coyote is boat bound here and has nothing to do with THAT other CM.
Confess your sin! :)
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OK...of course it's a very small and unimportant part of my original point. But everyone seems to have jumped on it, ignoring the main issue. He ain't working in Nashville! And he won't be because the Oldies format doesn't return enough revenue to justify the expense.

Tibbs2 said:
2.) To say Nashville is not a big enough market to pay for talent, etc.,
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I never said it wasn't big enough to pay for talent. I said the market isn't big enough to pay for talent IN THE OLDIES FORMAT. That's a very different thing.

Everyone needs to stop getting distracted with trying to prove me wrong, and deal with the simple fact: The Oldies format doesn't make enough money to tie up an FM frequency in Nashville. That's why it's not being done. And it WON'T be done by anyone, whether you talkabout CC, Cumulus, Citadel, South Central, or Cromwell.
 
hey Big A...
you're showing early symptoms of the dreaded "eduardo syndrome"...

but to add to your original (and correct) post: as long as agencies ignore the upper
demos...there will be no oldies on the radio. the agencies believe (and I'm on the fence
about this) that even though the 55+ crowd has money to spend, it takes too many ad
impressions to get them to change their (our) habits to be cost effective.
 
Romer says:
the agencies believe (and I'm on the fence about this) that even though the 55+ crowd has money to spend, it takes too many ad impressions to get them to change their (our) habits to be cost effective.
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I don't know why they'd make that kind of stupid statement. Yea I've given up drinking soft drinks since I can hardly find any Double Cola any more. I an't gonna try any others. And I did switch to Purity after Jersey Farms and Sealtest disappeared. But I guess I'm stuck with my Pontiac 6000 and 98 Oldsmobile since the car companies just don't make em like that anymore. But get me an oldies station anyway...and get somebody like, Lucky Strike or Pall Mall cigs to sponsor it. And maybe a little Black Label beer. (remember 'whistle Mable, Black Label
Yes...seniors will change...and they can have my gun when they pry it out of my.....you get the idea ::)
 
olebud said:
Romer says:
the agencies believe (and I'm on the fence about this) that even though the 55+ crowd has money to spend, it takes too many ad impressions to get them to change their (our) habits to be cost effective.
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I don't know why they'd make that kind of stupid statement. Yea I've given up drinking soft drinks since I can hardly find any Double Cola any more. I an't gonna try any others. And I did switch to Purity after Jersey Farms and Sealtest disappeared. But I guess I'm stuck with my Pontiac 6000 and 98 Oldsmobile since the car companies just don't make em like that anymore. But get me an oldies station anyway...and get somebody like, Lucky Strike or Pall Mall cigs to sponsor it. And maybe a little Black Label beer. (remember 'whistle Mable, Black Label
Yes...seniors will change...and they can have my gun when they pry it out of my.....you get the idea ::)
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Buddy,

Of course I'm about 20 years younger than you, but some of my favorite type of music, that you may not care for, is Classic Soul. When I was a kid, during the day, I listen to WVOL some, and then I ended up working there. The Classic Soul of the 60's & 70's was some of the best. Leslie doesn't like it, but sometimes when I'm alone, I play some of that old Barry White, Temptations, Earth-Wind & Fire, Curtis Mayfield, etc. Now getting in my upper 40's, I understand how you feel. Now WVOL is mostly talk, so at night when I'm in the mood to hear old soul music, I listen to WDIA's stream from their Website.

I recall as a small child in the late 60's, mom buying Sealtest Milk and I think they did make ice cream. Was Jersey Farms over there in Madison, were Lowes is now? There are many things I recall my mom and dad would buy at a "REAL" grocery store that I don't see anymore. Back then we had more locally owned grocery stores than we do now. I hate when Leslie drags me to the Krogers. It so big, I have to call her on her cell just to find where she's at. The little grocery store that I and Jack Williams shopped at was big enough, which is now Gallatin's H.G. Hills. You go in, get what you want, & you got out of there. Don't ask me my opinion of Wal-mart! I hate Wal-mart. I miss those little grocery stores!

Yes seniors will change......you're talking like my mom; her birthday is coming up Dec. 2nd. She will be 66.
 
As recently as the mid '90s, Coyote was playing top 40 on Nashville radio (on Y-107, I believe). I believe if he really wanted to, he could return to the airwaves, in almost any format that he wanted. However, I believe he would probably ask for too much money for that to be feasible. Moreover, he is about 67 years old now. I suspect that he is enjoying retirement, be it on his boat, or wherever. 8) I do recall him once saying that he didn't particularly like getting up early in the morning. I don't blame him there!

The creation of the (now gone) Coyote and Cathy website gave their fans false hope that they would soon return to the airwaves here. All that site did was give some idiot a forum to accuse everyone there of being "racist." ::) But it was on that site that I first learned of the existence of radio-info, so it wasn't all bad! ;D
 
probably a moot point since sales people in nashville have no idea how to sell "oldies", (hate the term)..but would not an audience listen whether coyote or anyone else was there if its an oldies fix that want ? granted in the old days a jock was a drawing card..as thats what radio was about as much as the music..but if joe an sally want the supremes on the way to work..would they really care if it's VT or syndicated from some other source ? wouldn't be as local oriented or as personal..but if its the tunes that demo is missing..then perhaps a jock(s) are not relevant..92q way back in the mid 70's automated an oldies format with bob riche and it was very successful..in fact they stole the idea from us at WHIN..we had finally convinced the owners to quit listening to their half dozen friends and go all oldies on 104.5. one of the secretaries there was dating johnny hawkins at 92q..she told him what we were about to do...and they beat us to the punch..this was when mary glen and jack hunter were working there about '77..dates are a little fuzzy..but thats the main gist of it..automated oldies and it worked...at the time
 
delta...
the oldies-only era of 92Q was very brief: by 1976, we played a LOT of currents...heavily dayparted.
I have a few airchecks, and listening now, the schafer 903 automation was awful!
but..it was contemporary music on FM...in (((s t e r e o))) and the numbers were good...
until 104.5 became KX104.

(plus all those van stops my lawyer won't let me talk about...
92Q halter tops and t-shirt + VU coeds. do the math.)
 
i went down there once when jack hunter was there..it was at night..and i remember seeing all those huge round carousels with carts in them..looked like some evil plan from a james bond movie..(you want me to play jim croce?...non mr. bond..i want you to die !)..but i cant recall how it sounded..but given the technology at the time ..probabaly as good as could be had..i had left WHIN in 1976,,so it was after that when i was there..and jack was working..like i said ..dates are a little fuzzy...but oldies or current..it was automated and did well..re-inforcing my original point about the oldies listener wanting that music with or without a jock..you can't replace talent with a cart..but if that was the only game in town for that demo..they would listen to get their daily fix of the same 250 songs..
 
ScottWRMO:
I recall as a small child in the late 60's, mom buying Sealtest Milk and I think they did make ice cream. Was Jersey Farms over there in Madison, were Lowes is now?
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Scott....sorry....gotcha. All that stuff about Double Cola and Jersey Farms was said in jest.but no, their plant was on 8th avenue closer to division. I worked on their milk trucks from when I was 13 through high school. Good stuff

And in closing......Coyote IS LIVING ON HIS HOUSEBOAT AT PERCY PRIEST

Thank you ==== I return you to your regularly scheduled program, now in progress.
 
olebud said:
ScottWRMO:
I recall as a small child in the late 60's, mom buying Sealtest Milk and I think they did make ice cream. Was Jersey Farms over there in Madison, were Lowes is now?
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[And in closing......Coyote IS LIVING ON HIS HOUSEBOAT AT PERCY PRIEST
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Good for him, I think I'd enjoy being on that houseboat too, after all he's been through. His son, Scott and I were good friends in college.
 
I can't get past this point: There were 2 Coyote McClouds in TN?
 
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