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LImbaugh at 910?

Being a baby boomer, I would think of Walter Cronkite. During his tenure at the CBS Evening News, he dominated the ratings, and was a touchstone for viewers, like no anchor before or since. When I recall that Cronkite retired early in the Reagan era - 30 years ago - it makes me feel old.

But I'm sure the term "America's Anchor" isn't copyrighted. Apparently, Rush decided to apply the label to himself. I haven't listened to him in a long time, but as I remember, he kind of bragged about himself and his "excellence in broadcasting," etc. - so he probably means it in a tongue in cheek way.
 
Ol' R. Hudson seems to more and more believe his own hype. He started out saying that stuff with tongue firmly in cheek, but it appears now he takes it more seriously than he ought.

And if he's the anchor of anything, it'd be the Queen Mary. [old Jackie Gleason joke]
 
Lkeller said:
Being a baby boomer, I would think of Walter Cronkite. During his tenure at the CBS Evening News, he dominated the ratings, and was a touchstone for viewers, like no anchor before or since. When I recall that Cronkite retired early in the Reagan era - 30 years ago - it makes me feel old.

But I'm sure the term "America's Anchor" isn't copyrighted. Apparently, Rush decided to apply the label to himself. I haven't listened to him in a long time, but as I remember, he kind of bragged about himself and his "excellence in broadcasting," etc. - so he probably means it in a tongue in cheek way.
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Look the Babies born in the Vietnam War era to Ronald Reagan and Bush Sr era would say Peter Jennings as best anchor. But the Clinton to 9/11 babies would say Jon Stewart as America's Anchor. I never even heard of Rush using this. Maybe the Pundits on the Cable Propaganda Networks decided Rush was America's Anchor.
 
recto101 said:
Lkeller said:
Being a baby boomer, I would think of Walter Cronkite. During his tenure at the CBS Evening News, he dominated the ratings, and was a touchstone for viewers, like no anchor before or since. When I recall that Cronkite retired early in the Reagan era - 30 years ago - it makes me feel old.

But I'm sure the term "America's Anchor" isn't copyrighted. Apparently, Rush decided to apply the label to himself. I haven't listened to him in a long time, but as I remember, he kind of bragged about himself and his "excellence in broadcasting," etc. - so he probably means it in a tongue in cheek way.
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Look the Babies born in the Vietnam War era to Ronald Reagan and Bush Sr era would say Peter Jennings as best anchor. But the Clinton to 9/11 babies would say Jon Stewart as America's Anchor. I never even heard of Rush using this. Maybe the Pundits on the Cable Propaganda Networks decided Rush was America's Anchor.
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Nobody "decided" anything, other than Rush and his people. It's just a non-copyrighted slogan, and Limbaugh apparently decided to use it. Again - love him or hate him, he always seemed to have a sense of humor about himself, so I'd bet that he doesn't take that label very seriously. Maybe he means "anchor" not as "anchorman," but as the man who keeps America grounded, or something. Even if that is the case, I doubt he takes it seriously.

And I don't know anybody from the "Clinton to 9/11" era who doesn't realize Jon Stewart is anything other than a satirical fake newsman, not any kind of real anchor. As to the Vietnam era - if a survey was ever done (and I doubt it was), America's choice would have been Cronkite, who retired in the first year of the Reagan administration, about 6 years after the Vietnam War was over.
 
Lkeller said:
And I don't know anybody from the "Clinton to 9/11" era who doesn't realize Jon Stewart is anything other than a satirical fake newsman, not any kind of real anchor. As to the Vietnam era - if a survey was ever done (and I doubt it was), America's choice would have been Cronkite, who retired in the first year of the Reagan administration, about 6 years after the Vietnam War was over.
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And yet it is Stewart who can say the "emperor has no clothes" and has, in interviews, spoken frankly to Barack Obama and many other national figures and politicians. More often than not, Stewart has asked questions that the real meat puppets did not ask. Like it or not, there is a new generation of viewers and consumers that believes Jon Stewart is a newsman; satirical, comedic or not. As to the use of "America's Anchor," it appears the man who charges his affiliates confiscatory fees takes the title seriously. Cronkite would be my choice as news person for whom the title properly fits, followed closely by Chet Huntley and David Brinkley (as anchor "men.")
 
Lkeller said:
But I'm sure the term "America's Anchor" isn't copyrighted.
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Phrases cannot be copyrighted, they can only be trademarked. To be trademarked, a word or phrase must refer to a specific area or areas of commerce, must have been in use before the trademark was applied for, and must be used in commerce. In other words, a trademark cannot be applied for and left dormant.

A great example of a dormant trademark that lost protection is Nipper the RCA dog looking into the gramophone horn. It is now in the public domain in the U.S. and Canada because it was no longer being used. (It is in use in other countries, though, where it's controlled by other companies.)

So, "America's Anchor" could be trademarked, but a search of the USPTO site shows that it is not trademarked. Thus, anyone can use it.
 
DavidKaye said:
Lkeller said:
But I'm sure the term "America's Anchor" isn't copyrighted.
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Phrases cannot be copyrighted, they can only be trademarked. To be trademarked, a word or phrase must refer to a specific area or areas of commerce, must have been in use before the trademark was applied for, and must be used in commerce. In other words, a trademark cannot be applied for and left dormant.

A great example of a dormant trademark that lost protection is Nipper the RCA dog looking into the gramophone horn. It is now in the public domain in the U.S. and Canada because it was no longer being used. (It is in use in other countries, though, where it's controlled by other companies.)

So, "America's Anchor" could be trademarked, but a search of the USPTO site shows that it is not trademarked. Thus, anyone can use it.
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OK - sorry, I meant trademarked. As to Element's defense of Stewart - unnecessary. Love him, love The Daily Show...no criticism intended. I was just reacting to Recto's inclusion of Stewart in the same category with anchormen like Peter Jennings that delivered regular news programming. Stewart is not that, as most people realize. I really don't believe that young adults consider him a news reporter or anchor. For one thing, that would be counter to everything he says and does on his show, which he often emphasizes is "fake" news - his term, not mine.

Along the same lines, I've also heard it said that some people consider Stephen Colbert to be a conservative. I don't believe anybody could possibly be that stupid.
 
In the context of an on-air promo on a Clear Channel-owned talk radio station, "America's anchorman" is most assuredly talking about Rush.
 
My remarks regarding Stewart were not intended to be confrontational, but rather observations. True, Stewart is on record as not wanting or pretending to present himself as a "newsman" or "journalist." He's more Will Rogers than Walter Cronkite, but in that capacity, more often than not he makes people think as much as laugh.
 
Lkeller said:
And I don't know anybody from the "Clinton to 9/11" era who doesn't realize Jon Stewart is anything other than a satirical fake newsman, not any kind of real anchor. As to the Vietnam era - if a survey was ever done (and I doubt it was), America's choice would have been Cronkite, who retired in the first year of the Reagan administration, about 6 years after the Vietnam War was over.
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Remember the writer's strike? Stewart, Colbert, and Maher went off-the-air. IMHO, they are nothing more than actors. I seem to remember one show stayed on-the-air. Was it Jimmy Kimmel? Or Leno? If memory serves, he paid the writers out of his own pocket.
 
Steven Roy said:
Lkeller said:
And I don't know anybody from the "Clinton to 9/11" era who doesn't realize Jon Stewart is anything other than a satirical fake newsman, not any kind of real anchor. As to the Vietnam era - if a survey was ever done (and I doubt it was), America's choice would have been Cronkite, who retired in the first year of the Reagan administration, about 6 years after the Vietnam War was over.
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Remember the writer's strike? Stewart, Colbert, and Maher went off-the-air. IMHO, they are nothing more than actors. I seem to remember one show stayed on-the-air. Was it Jimmy Kimmel? Or Leno? If memory serves, he paid the writers out of his own pocket.
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Stewart, Colbert and Maher all stayed on the air during the WGA strike. Maher still did a monologue, but the other scripted portions of his show weren't done. In Stewart's case, he retitled it "A Daily Show" until the end of the strike and he and the "correspondents" did their own material.
 
sfradio said:
I don't get why they wouldn't put Glenn Beck and Rush on the same station
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My assumption is - CC is making NewsTalk 910 their big gun - that's where they put the former KGO hosts. So it makes sense to have Rush on 910 since he's the biggest 'gun' in talk radio. Beck, by comparison, has become a bit of a fringe character and the subject of a lot of derision, given the wacky stuff he talks about. Remember that conservative Fox News jettisoned his TV show, and I'm sure that's not because Beck is conservative. But I guess he still gets decent enough ratings on the radio, so it makes sense to air his show on 960 - even it is alongside mostly liberal talk hosts.
 
Beck has been on 910 3 times, in various time slots, and never moved the needle for ratings. End of story (as Savage would say.)
 
Or "End of Blackboards," to further quote Savage who once had 910 KNEW as his Bay Area flagship station with a 4th hour highlights replay.
 
Former Arizona congressman/Phoenix radio host J.D. Hayworth is taking the former Rush 9-noon slot locally on KSFO:

http://www.ksfo.com/showdj.asp?DJID=60223

I say "locally on KSFO" because he may well be ISDNing it from Arizona.

Meanwhile, at "NewsTalk 910 KKSF", Gene Burns debut tonight is being put off since he had a minor stroke over the weekend. A whole bunch of former KGOers will fill in on 910, starting with Dr. Bill Wattenburg tonight, Gil Gross tomorrow, and I forget the other hosts.
 
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