LIMBAUGH --- LIKE A NAGGING WIFE.

[joshzz]

Have any fans of Limbaugh ever really to listened to him with a discerning ear? Seriously, I am a conservative but can tolerate him for no more than a few minutes.

It's the same thing everyday. All he ever does is complain.. Complain .. Complain...and complain. Whatever Obama or any Democrat does for that matter , he just complains.. He doesn't offer solutions, it's just more complaining.

If he was a true conservative, then you think he might turn to prayer every once in a while. God's word, the Bible tells us to prayer for our leaders. and we are to pray unceasingly.

I don't agree with President Obama on some issues, but we all oppose some positions that each party endorses. He should use his platform to offer solutions .

I listened to him yesterday and all he did was complain about the economy. The only solution he has ever offered is to give more tax breaks for the rich... That does nothing except put more money in his pocketbook (he's worth hundred of millions of dollars)...... Well in any event . the complainer is on today from 12 -3 pm Eastern time.

 

[Tom Wells]

I shake your hand in confused conservative agreement.

If Rush would be truly objective, he'd sound different. I make no claims to be MR Conservative, and hold to viewpoints points both liberal and conservative. I'd suggest he simply examine himself, and consider other viewpoints from a less dogmatic position.
I both disagree and agree with things he opines, and feel he should do a better job of moderating himself, and he'd do much more good for the country. Prayer sure couldn't hurt. It is supposed to bring you to a place where you can be more objective, if you're doing it right.

 

[jerry367]

You need to understand that Rush's position, like Fox News, is NOT to be fair (no matter what Fox says), but rather to play to the room. The right wing, particularly the far right, is spoon fed all of their own opinions in many different ways and from many different angles. The objective is validating the already-held beliefs of those who watch or listen.

Considering all the flag waving that these entities do, it is espesically ironic that they engage in such counterproductive and polarizing discourse. Nothing could be WORSE for this country.
A truly "great American" would not condone it.

 

[MikefromDelaware]

It's all about the money. Rush makes millions doing what he does, just as Rupert Murdock makes millions via FOX News doing what they do. MSNBC does the same (but in their case targeting the left wing liberals).

Where as in Murdock's case I don't think he believes all the "crap" aired on his network (if he thought he'd make more money by aiming for liberals, he'd do that). In Rush's case, he is a believer in what he's saying and is what I'd call a "secular" preacher. He preaches right wing politics - Republican style from his pulpit at the Cathedral of Conservative Right wing politics. Rush wants to convert you to his political beliefs. He's found a way to make millions running his mouth, preaching the "gospel" of conservatism. Millions listen, the advertisers are happy, pay big bucks to buy time on his show, the stations are happy. Rush is offering something a large segment of the AM radio audience seems to like. I may not like everything he says, but he's found a way of having one of the most successful radio shows in radio history. Not bad for a guy with only a high school diploma.

I like the analogy of the nagging wife. However, I find Rush more entertaining than Hannity who simply sounds angry all the time. A little bit of either Rush or Hannity goes a long way for my ear.

 

[Goat Rodeo Cowboy]

I like the analogy of the nagging wife. However, I find Rush more entertaining than Hannity who simply sounds angry all the time. A little bit of either Rush or Hannity goes a long way for my ear.

Interesting observation, Mike. Rush may sound like a nagging wife, Hannity then could be the "bitter old maid"?

After reading the first two messages in this thread I expected to see a revival meeting break out here. The theme that keeps arising when these conversations try to analyze the ideological bickering in our country is that: "As long as it makes money, then it is good and it is holy". If some form of radio programming makes a lot of money for someone, then we know that programming is blessed by the deities of the universe and we humans must never criticise it.

I don't know how many of you watched Dianne Sawyer tonight on the ABC Evening News, but during the entire broadcast I thought she was going to break down, sobbing and crying. In the last 30 years there has been a louder and louder drumbeat that "mainstream media" has a liberal bias. They usually have time to get back to the studio, sit for make-up and grooming, and put on their pretty face. I thought at one time she was going to turn to the camera and say: "Mr. Obama... why don't you fire up Air Frce One, get your butt and about six or eight thousand military down here by tomorrow morning and hand these people a bottle of water and an Egg McMuffin or something.

I don't get the idea that after the broadcast her first action was to get on the phone and call the network wheels and ask how much more money she would make this year because of the size of her audience.

Bill Clinton and "Dubya" are both working, and will be working together to find ways to deal with the problems of humanity. I don't think Clinton will be calling Demos and saying: "Write a check so we can make sure Haitians all become liberal." I don't think Mr. Bush will be calling Repubs and saying: "Write a check so we can make sure Haitians all become conservative."

I'm looking forward to hearing "The nagging wife" and the "bitter old maid" broadcasting from the streets of Port Au Prince while handing out bottles of water and five pound bags of rice.

THAT would be some good radio!

 

[radiotower40]

I like the analogy of the nagging wife. However, I find Rush more entertaining than Hannity who simply sounds angry all the time. A little bit of either Rush or Hannity goes a long way for my ear.

Interesting observation, Mike. Rush may sound like a nagging wife, Hannity then could be the "bitter old maid"?

After reading the first two messages in this thread I expected to see a revival meeting break out here. The theme that keeps arising when these conversations try to analyze the ideological bickering in our country is that: "As long as it makes money, then it is good and it is holy". If some form of radio programming makes a lot of money for someone, then we know that programming is blessed by the deities of the universe and we humans must never criticise it.

I don't know how many of you watched Dianne Sawyer tonight on the ABC Evening News, but during the entire broadcast I thought she was going to break down, sobbing and crying. In the last 30 years there has been a louder and louder drumbeat that "mainstream media" has a liberal bias. They usually have time to get back to the studio, sit for make-up and grooming, and put on their pretty face. I thought at one time she was going to turn to the camera and say: "Mr. Obama... why don't you fire up Air Frce One, get your butt and about six or eight thousand military down here by tomorrow morning and hand these people a bottle of water and an Egg McMuffin or something.

I don't get the idea that after the broadcast her first action was to get on the phone and call the network wheels and ask how much more money she would make this year because of the size of her audience.

Bill Clinton and "Dubya" are both working, and will be working together to find ways to deal with the problems of humanity. I don't think Clinton will be calling Demos and saying: "Write a check so we can make sure Haitians all become liberal." I don't think Mr. Bush will be calling Repubs and saying: "Write a check so we can make sure Haitians all become conservative."

I'm looking forward to hearing "The nagging wife" and the "bitter old maid" broadcasting from the streets of Port Au Prince while handing out bottles of water and five pound bags of rice.

THAT would be some good radio!

Hannity, the old maid? I'm so glad that I swallowed my Pepsi before I read that, it was absolutely hilarious!

I am a conservative guy, and I enjoy Rush's show because I find him entertaining, and I agree with most of his points.
I also take some of them with a grain of salt realizing it is for shock value.

Hannity on the other hand, bores me to tears. I may agree with a lot of his principle's, but, he is not funny or entertaining
to me at all. His show from the few times I've listened for more than ten minutes, seems like an infomercial for his TV
show.

In regards to what you said about Dianne Saywer, I was thinking the same as you. I do tend to think that in most cases
the "mainstream media" is slanted to the left. I found myself watching her however, and knowing at that point, she was neither
right or left. She was a compassionate human being who cared little, if the President was Bush, Obama, Clinton or Carter,
she just wanted someone to do something right now, to help the suffering people of Haiti.

Excellent post GRB!!

 

[MikefromDelaware]

Some good points being made by GRC and TR1992. I didn't see the Diane Sawyer thing, but I'd agree that it would be easy to be overwhelmed by what she was seeing and as a human would react without any bias as to her political beliefs. Sure, she probably does skew to the left in her personal beliefs, but as a good reporter she'd not allow that to get in the way of presenting what's happening in a direct news story rather than in a commentary or analysis piece.

Unfortunately, in our politically laced society where politics has become a sport or secular religion rather than a tool for running a government, its easy to believe the stereotypes of how all liberals act and think or how all conservatives act and think, or how all Christians act or think, or Muslims, etc, etc, that we reduce people to a stereotype.

There are two real examples of politically biased news, Fox News for conservatives and MSNBC for liberals (which might imply that NBC also carries that same liberal bias, but I've not picked up on it when watching NBC as I've witnessed when watching MSNBC). The others may lean left, but I've seen or heard balanced reporting for both liberal and conservatives on NPR, PBS, CBS, and ABC, so at least for me, they generally are being non-biased in their reporting.

The aspect of all of this that amazes me is how people can actually believe that the Republicans or the Democrats (depending on your point of view) are either always correct or always wrong and evil wanting to destroy this nation. Like Obama's ideas or hate them, I do not believe that his agenda is the destruction of the US or any other nation, he's a smart, well educated person, who has liberal leaning views. Michael Steele, the head of the GOP, is also an African-American and he has just the opposite point of view of President Obama. He too, loves this nation and isn't trying to destroy it, he is well educated, smart, who has a conservative leaning views. This excessive bashing of the other party with whom you don't agree with where they are painted as being the "antichrist" is totally wrong and doesn't help our nation. Neither party is right all the time and neither is wrong all the time, but both are right and wrong quite often. It would be great if we could some how turn down the hate speech in politics and take a more civil proactive approach.

Of course, if that ever happened, Fox and MSNBC and would then go up for sale and become another home shopping channel. Gee, that might not be such a bad thing. Rush and Hannity would have to go and get a real job, somehow I'd not feel sorry for them.

 

[Silkie]

Evidently Rush Limbaugh speaks for Rush Limbaugh; certainly given some of what I read here he doesn't speak for me, a strict Constitutionalist.

 

[ericdxx]

Of course it's hard to listen to the entire show everday but a couple of minutes a day is great. He is entertaining and is leaning in the right direction when it comes to politics. Unlike Hannity, Limbaugh has humor. Limbaugh is also the greatest on-air reader. He can make any newspaper article sound interesting. Seriously.

 

[Goat Rodeo Cowboy]

He is entertaining and is leaning in the right direction when it comes to politics. Unlike Hannity, Limbaugh has humor. Limbaugh is also the greatest on-air reader. He can make any newspaper article sound interesting.

As a kid I can remember entertainers like Bob Hope getting off some humor regarding the president, but I don't remember the comedians of that era becoming partisans in the political battles of the time. We have moved into a new era where we now have the following question on the table:

Is [insert name of your choice] a top comedian who is also very political,
or a top political figure who is also very much a comedian.

I don't know if this most damaging to our political well being or to our entertainment well being. I think both suffer in the process.

When you say you find Rush entertaining and you find him leaning in the right direction.... do you ever give any thought to how entertaining he is to people who think he is leaning in the wrong direction when it comes to politics. You get a good laugh by listening for two minutes. Someone else listens two minutes and comes away steamed. Then the two of you get together in a conference room and try to solve a business issue, or a community service issue or a a local political issue but find yourselves dis-liking each other to the point you can't carry out the task at hand. But what the heck: you had a good laugh. What did the other person get out of the process?

 

[jerry367]

He is entertaining and is leaning in the right direction when it comes to politics. Unlike Hannity, Limbaugh has humor. Limbaugh is also the greatest on-air reader. He can make any newspaper article sound interesting.

As a kid I can remember entertainers like Bob Hope getting off some humor regarding the president, but I don't remember the comedians of that era becoming partisans in the political battles of the time. We have moved into a new era where we now have the following question on the table:

Is [insert name of your choice] a top comedian who is also very political,
or a top political figure who is also very much a comedian.

I don't know if this most damaging to our political well being or to our entertainment well being. I think both suffer in the process.

When you say you find Rush entertaining and you find him leaning in the right direction.... do you ever give any thought to how entertaining he is to people who think he is leaning in the wrong direction when it comes to politics. You get a good laugh by listening for two minutes. Someone else listens two minutes and comes away steamed. Then the two of you get together in a conference room and try to solve a business issue, or a community service issue or a a local political issue but find yourselves dis-liking each other to the point you can't carry out the task at hand. But what the heck: you had a good laugh. What did the other person get out of the process?

What I find much more troubling is that a segment of his audience considers Rush a journalist. They look to him for the "truth", not recognizing that fact-wise he tends to cut the corners off of square pegs to fit them in round holes. To many, Rush is entertaining, but to others, he is painting a very scary, but factually distorted picture. At that point, entertainment be damnned. THAT is not good for anyone.

 

[MikefromDelaware]

What jerry367 says is more than just for Rush. How many younger people get their news from Leno/Letterman/Conan/Comedy Central, etc? Unfortunately, many people, both old and young are getting their news from "entertainment" sources rather than news sources. Granted Fox and MSNBC paint themselves as news sources, but their respective talk shows are as biased as Rush/Hannity/Beck are on the radio. It truly amazes me that anyone actually believes that Fox is living up to their motto of being "fair and balanced". Of course neither is MSNBC, but in their defense they don't claim to be fair and balanced.

Goat Rodeo Cowboy also makes a very valid point as if you tend to agree with Rush then his antics are funny or entertaining, if you disagree with him then his antics are irritating. Frankly I had no respect for Clinton (Bill) and did enjoy his parodies and antics about "Oval Bedroom, the executive in sleeze," etc. Clinton did that to himself. However, I'd get irritated with Limbaugh's bashing of Clinton's policies. Frankly Bill Clinton did a decent job as President (budget got balanced for the first time in over 20 years), he just has the morals of a snail. So bash and make fun of his bad behavior (like shooting fish in a barrel), but give him credit for the good stuff he did as President when he wasn't preoccupied with Monica.

Yet Rush would over look Bush's inability to put an entire sentence together or that Chaney was the power behind the thrown, or how Bush managed to take the caring wanting to help America after 9/11 from all the rest of the world and make us the pariah of the world due to Bush's arrogance, because Bush was Rush's guy. That's the problem with guys like Rush. One sided.

Sort of like when Linda Ronstat or the Dixie Chicks made political statements at their respective concerts, they upset many of their fans. People who love their music, but hate their political views. So this issue cuts both ways, liberal entertainers and conservative entertainers.

Granted, for Rush, his show is about politics where as Ronstats and the D chicks concerts are supposedly for music (both of who's music I really like). Even though I do agree with them on some things they say, I'd enjoy their music more without the political commentary. Entertainers of both liberal and conservative camps need to realize that people pay good money to go to their concerts to have a good time hearing their music and when the performer gets political, they essentially are saying that only those who see the world as I do can truly appreciate my music, the rest of you can leave. As a musician, I can tell you, that's NOT what music does for people. Music crosses all boundaries. If you're smart, as a musician, you'll leave your political views at home. Your public doesn't want that when they go to a concert. They want your music.

GRC did mention Bob Hope who had the gift to be able to roast the politicians of both parties and not offend anyone. Will Rogers, also had that knack. I think the reason for this is both sides realized that Hope was an equal opportunity comedian, he'd make fun of FDR and Truman, but would also make fun of Eisenhower and Nixon. That is where I see the bigger problem with the Rush "entertainers" I can't call him a comedian, they only make fun of the other party and make excuses somehow blaming the other side when their guy screws up. That is why Limbaugh is not a comedian. He is a "secular" preacher who is trying to convert the libs to his view point, just as the lib talk hosts like Bill Press are trying to convert the conservs to his point of view. These people are NOT entertainers, no matter what they say, they want to convert you to their political point of view. They're not preaching Jesus Christ and the Gospel, they're preaching their political view.

Speaking of preachers, someone who had the ability to minister to all the Presidents from Truman to W. Bush is Billy Graham. Reverend Graham never publicly said what political party he supports (it's been speculated that he is a Democrat, but no one knows for sure), but has had solid relationships with both liberal and conservative presidents including Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon. Yet many other preachers are very Republican (Pat Robertson) or Democrat ( Jim Wallis).

It is unfortunate that our society seems to have lost the ability to disagree, but yet, still get along. I may not agree with everything President Obama says, but he is our President and should be respected, just as W. Bush should have been respected even though I disagreed with much of what he said and did. It works both ways.

 

[Holland Cooke]

He came THIS close...

How about yesterday, day-after the Massachusetts special election?

BRILLIANT show open, very in-character, and sure-to-be-quoted:
"TODAY, FOR THE FIRST TIME, I AM PROUD OF MASSACHUSETTS."
(Paraphrasing Michelle Obama's gaffe.)

On that-particular-day, when some-of the-many-who-tune-in because-they-DISAGREE-with-Rush...when THOSE folks could be won-over...and he opens so cleverly...he throws-it-all-away a moment later, and repeatedly again during the show: "THIS ONE'S FOR YOU MARY JO."

As though she doesn't have surviving family members.

Not just a new low, but new evidence that these rude cracks are a deliberate grope for attention...which work...ultimately, at the licensee's expense, we fear.

HC
www.HollandCooke.com

 

[The Ultimate Warrior]

Re: He came THIS close...

How about yesterday, day-after the Massachusetts special election?

BRILLIANT show open, very in-character, and sure-to-be-quoted:
"TODAY, FOR THE FIRST TIME, I AM PROUD OF MASSACHUSETTS."
(Paraphrasing Michelle Obama's gaffe.)

On that-particular-day, when some-of the-many-who-tune-in because-they-DISAGREE-with-Rush...when THOSE folks could be won-over...and he opens so cleverly...he throws-it-all-away a moment later, and repeatedly again during the show: "THIS ONE'S FOR YOU MARY JO."

As though she doesn't have surviving family members.

Not just a new low, but new evidence that these rude cracks are a deliberate grope for attention...which work...ultimately, at the licensee's expense, we fear.

HC
www.HollandCooke.com

How many licenses have been yanked because of Rush or any other talker?

I'll wait.

 

[Holland Cooke]

RE "I'll wait."

And oh-so-calmly...for now, eh?

How many licenses have been yanked because of Rush or any other talker?

Though you don't care to share-with-us who-you-ARE, it's clear who-you-AREN'T...a licensee.

But if you're among remaining station employees, you could either get-busy-attending-to...or get-RIF'd-because-of the-expense-consequences-of...Community Advisory Boards licensees fear will be imposed long-before any forfeitures.

And while you're dancing, Limbaugh, Beck, and other careless loudmouths skate.
'Not THEIR problem!

 

[Silkie]

Re: He came THIS close...

How about yesterday, day-after the Massachusetts special election?

BRILLIANT show open, very in-character, and sure-to-be-quoted:
"TODAY, FOR THE FIRST TIME, I AM PROUD OF MASSACHUSETTS."
(Paraphrasing Michelle Obama's gaffe.)

On that-particular-day, when some-of the-many-who-tune-in because-they-DISAGREE-with-Rush...when THOSE folks could be won-over...and he opens so cleverly...he throws-it-all-away a moment later, and repeatedly again during the show: "THIS ONE'S FOR YOU MARY JO."

As though she doesn't have surviving family members.

Not just a new low, but new evidence that these rude cracks are a deliberate grope for attention...which work...ultimately, at the licensee's expense, we fear.

HC
www.HollandCooke.com

How many licenses have been yanked because of Rush or any other talker?

I'll wait.

How long can you hold your breath?

 

[The Ultimate Warrior]

So that is "none" right Holland?

I think as a consultant you need to yank Rush, Beck and Hannity off the air ASAP at your stations. Or did CC already do that to you?

 

[Holland Cooke]

Sqaure this new outrage with the upbringing he boasted about just today.

I think as a consultant you need to yank Rush, Beck and Hannity off the air ASAP at your stations. Or did CC already do that to you?

YES, in two markets where-I'm-not-under-the-radar (see Raleigh-Greensboro board, where the flames are no-fewer, and no-less-anonymous, just politer).

As for impending changes in other markets, "no comment at this time."

Meanwhile, if Limbaugh wasn't such an amoral phony, he'd PRAY for Mary Jo Kopechne, not profiteer upon her memory.

 

[Silkie]

What is an "under the radar" market?

 

[Holland Cooke]

Shhh...

What is an "under the radar" market?

If I named one, I wouldn't be under-the-radar there any more...