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LIMBAUGH --- LIKE A NAGGING WIFE.
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It's a life sometimes-as-stealthy as it is nerdy...
Consultants DO lurk.
As Al Stewart sang, in "Year of the Cat:" "Strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre, contemplating a crime..."
We buy Groucho glasses by the dozen.
Consultants DO lurk.
As Al Stewart sang, in "Year of the Cat:" "Strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre, contemplating a crime..."
We buy Groucho glasses by the dozen.
Re: Shhh...
You really need to think of your stations licenses and speak out about getting them to dump their profitable shows. It needs to happen for the good of America.
Save us Holland!
Holland,Holland Cooke said:
You really need to think of your stations licenses and speak out about getting them to dump their profitable shows. It needs to happen for the good of America.
Save us Holland!
Piecing-together the clues...
RE:
We've already surmised that you're not an owner/licensee.
Now you signal that you're not in Sales.
Headline News: Most affiliates lose money on Rush Limbaugh.
So you're probably also not-the-guy-who-does-the-logs.
He'd know that.
I'm thinkin' the-loner-in-Production?
NOTHING -- repeat, NOTHING -- is more-important-than NOT-losing-the-license.
No programming will be profitable if the transmitter goes away.
No more checks for the Production Grouch.
Unless the job description for Production Grouch is expanded to include sitting-through Community Advisory Boards that the careless national loudmouths tempt-the-imposition-of, during yet-another-day of The Consequence-Free Existence.
RE:
The Ultimate Warrior said:
We've already surmised that you're not an owner/licensee.
Now you signal that you're not in Sales.
Headline News: Most affiliates lose money on Rush Limbaugh.
So you're probably also not-the-guy-who-does-the-logs.
He'd know that.
I'm thinkin' the-loner-in-Production?
NOTHING -- repeat, NOTHING -- is more-important-than NOT-losing-the-license.
No programming will be profitable if the transmitter goes away.
No more checks for the Production Grouch.
Unless the job description for Production Grouch is expanded to include sitting-through Community Advisory Boards that the careless national loudmouths tempt-the-imposition-of, during yet-another-day of The Consequence-Free Existence.
Was that...him...at the airport?
Some consultant/station relationships are out-in-the-open.
Elsewhere, it's not unusual for a client station to stipulate discretion, for any-number-of-reasons.
So the consultant is in stealth mode there, "under-the-radar," as it were.
Circumspect.
Trenchcoat, phony mustache, "John Smith" at the Ramada, always-declining-Collision Damage Waiver sometimes-accepting Fuel Service Option...eavesdropping at Dunkin' Donuts...William Hurt as "The Accidental Tourist."
Doing SWA online advance check-in PRECISELY 23 hours, 59 minutes, 59 seconds before flight time...to nail "A" boarding group...and, hopefully, coveted seat 12F (the only one on the plane with no seat in front of it).
Then, another Ramada...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVvnUyUp1_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Imecvi3XeE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3MTrcONFN0
Some consultant/station relationships are out-in-the-open.
Elsewhere, it's not unusual for a client station to stipulate discretion, for any-number-of-reasons.
So the consultant is in stealth mode there, "under-the-radar," as it were.
Circumspect.
Trenchcoat, phony mustache, "John Smith" at the Ramada, always-declining-Collision Damage Waiver sometimes-accepting Fuel Service Option...eavesdropping at Dunkin' Donuts...William Hurt as "The Accidental Tourist."
Doing SWA online advance check-in PRECISELY 23 hours, 59 minutes, 59 seconds before flight time...to nail "A" boarding group...and, hopefully, coveted seat 12F (the only one on the plane with no seat in front of it).
Then, another Ramada...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVvnUyUp1_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Imecvi3XeE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3MTrcONFN0
Re: Piecing-together the clues...
Sorry you don't like direct questions and can't provide a direct answer. Keep making accusations and flailing about.
No, I do not own a station, but you are wrong on all the other counts.Holland Cooke said:
No one has lost a license, that was my STILL-VALID point.
Sorry you don't like direct questions and can't provide a direct answer. Keep making accusations and flailing about.
"Meanwhile, back on-topic..."
So you're in Sales AND the-guy-who-does-the-logs?
Now THERE'S a-snapshot-of what-radio-has-become.
I doubt that you're really sorry.
And I make-my-living answering-direct-questions.
Clients ask me a bunch of 'em every day.
And here's one for you: You think The Rush Limbaugh Show is profitable for most affiliates?
You think that show bills, locally more than it costs the affiliate?
"Meanwhile, back on-topic:" if Limbaugh wasn't such an amoral phony, he'd PRAY for Mary Jo Kopechne, not profiteer upon her memory.
The Ultimate Warrior said:
So you're in Sales AND the-guy-who-does-the-logs?
Now THERE'S a-snapshot-of what-radio-has-become.
The Ultimate Warrior said:
I doubt that you're really sorry.
And I make-my-living answering-direct-questions.
Clients ask me a bunch of 'em every day.
And here's one for you: You think The Rush Limbaugh Show is profitable for most affiliates?
You think that show bills, locally more than it costs the affiliate?
"Meanwhile, back on-topic:" if Limbaugh wasn't such an amoral phony, he'd PRAY for Mary Jo Kopechne, not profiteer upon her memory.
Re: "Meanwhile, back on-topic..."
Save us Holland! Dump Rush and see how fast that program is snapped up.
For me? Yes. For all station? Maybe not, but you gotta have a pretty sorry staff to not be able to sell the 600lb gorilla.Holland Cooke said:
I thought it was classless too, but that doesn't mean it will cost you a license as you stated it could.
Save us Holland! Dump Rush and see how fast that program is snapped up.
"Dump Rush and see how fast that program is snapped up."
In FARGO...FARGO, mind you...it took a-new-Talk-station-signing-on to clear El Rushbo, when one pre-existing talker dropped him and the other didn't want him.
FARGO.
To be fair, he's down to about 500 now, but that's not the point.
Now I KNOW you're not in Sales.
Affiliates could rationalize the Limbaugh franchise as a loss-leader because it helped their M-F 6A-7P P25-54 rankers...back-before transactional business dried-up. As for local directs, those Rush Rooms disappeared a decade ago.
In FARGO...FARGO, mind you...it took a-new-Talk-station-signing-on to clear El Rushbo, when one pre-existing talker dropped him and the other didn't want him.
FARGO.
The Ultimate Warrior said:
To be fair, he's down to about 500 now, but that's not the point.
Now I KNOW you're not in Sales.
Affiliates could rationalize the Limbaugh franchise as a loss-leader because it helped their M-F 6A-7P P25-54 rankers...back-before transactional business dried-up. As for local directs, those Rush Rooms disappeared a decade ago.
Re: "Dump Rush and see how fast that program is snapped up."
Keep grinding that ax and talking about a 200+ market.Holland Cooke said:
Holland: Who has ceased tolerating Limbaugh as a loss-leader and dumped him?
I'm fairly familiar with four N/T stations in the Indiana/Illinois two-state area. All of them made money on Limbaugh as of my last check sometime in 2009. (Granted, these are markets 150 and above).
(Did I actually just write a post that supports Limbaugh?)
I'm fairly familiar with four N/T stations in the Indiana/Illinois two-state area. All of them made money on Limbaugh as of my last check sometime in 2009. (Granted, these are markets 150 and above).
(Did I actually just write a post that supports Limbaugh?)
"Who has ceased tolerating Limbaugh as a loss-leader and dumped him?"
My aforementioned reference was to KFGO/Fargo.
Note also that WPRO/Providence replaced Rush with a local host.
My aforementioned reference was to KFGO/Fargo.
Note also that WPRO/Providence replaced Rush with a local host.
I think it's a little far fetched to think anyone is going to get their license yanked over insensitive comments about Mary Jo Koepechne, or anything else Rush does. Even Stern and Bubba the Love Sponge haven't gotten anyone's license pulled, though they did generate indecency fines. A case I know of locally saw a station lose its license for fraudulent billing and other things, but not for on-air content. If you are actually advising your clients to dump Rush, Beck, Hannity et al or else their license will go away, that's a bit over the top. As far as advisory boards, should they occur, I'm quite certain conservatives will make a point to join them too because they know otherwise it will be whiny liberals demanding conservatives' programs be silenced. I honestly don't know what weight advisory boards would actually have except to be a thorn in management's side (I can see it now on the music side: Play my bar band! No, play more AC/DC! No, play Elvis!)
Forgot to mention it took around 10 years for that station's license to actually be pulled...even after they got the "lock the door and throw away the key" order they were still on for awhile. I think the feds didn't really want to kill the town's only local service until a new licensee was in place.
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gr8oldies said:
Well, that's a whiny comment if I ever heard one. ;D
I too would be surprised to see a licensee lose their license over Limbaugh's lack of good taste. I do agree with Holland Cooke that Rush shouldn't have made the comment about Mary Jo Koepechne.
Rush does have the habit of going over the line of good taste to the raunchy or comments that are done in poor taste. There were numerous times back when the Clinton's were in the White House and Rush made a career of bashing anything and everything Clinton where he made sexual innuendo type comments about Hillary that were over the line. Frankly, I was surprised that Bill didn't show up one day at the EIB and punch Limbaugh's lights out. Of course Rush's audience loved those comments, but could you imagine the uproar if Ed Schulz made similar type comments about Laura Bush?
The sad part of this is, Limbaugh can have some interesting observations of our political landscape, but loses any and all credibility when he stoops to these crass and debased forms of "humor". However, that sort of humor does get ratings. It would appear that Rush would "sell his soul and his integrity" to have great ratings and be #1 in radio. They say everyone has their price, apparently Premiere Radio has found Limbaugh's price. So you know what that makes Rush......
That doesn't mean Limbaugh is the only one in radio who does this, he's just the biggest and most popular. Just because somethings popular doesn't make it right. Just because something is right, doesn't mean it will be popular.
Rush does have the habit of going over the line of good taste to the raunchy or comments that are done in poor taste. There were numerous times back when the Clinton's were in the White House and Rush made a career of bashing anything and everything Clinton where he made sexual innuendo type comments about Hillary that were over the line. Frankly, I was surprised that Bill didn't show up one day at the EIB and punch Limbaugh's lights out. Of course Rush's audience loved those comments, but could you imagine the uproar if Ed Schulz made similar type comments about Laura Bush?
The sad part of this is, Limbaugh can have some interesting observations of our political landscape, but loses any and all credibility when he stoops to these crass and debased forms of "humor". However, that sort of humor does get ratings. It would appear that Rush would "sell his soul and his integrity" to have great ratings and be #1 in radio. They say everyone has their price, apparently Premiere Radio has found Limbaugh's price. So you know what that makes Rush......
That doesn't mean Limbaugh is the only one in radio who does this, he's just the biggest and most popular. Just because somethings popular doesn't make it right. Just because something is right, doesn't mean it will be popular.
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