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Local newscasts at 9:00 PM

> > Yes, I have lived my entire life on the east coast. My
> > question is mainly focusing on the three major networks -
> > ABC, NBC, and CBS. It just seems more common for there to
> be
> > 11 PM newscasts, which would translate to 10 PM newscasts
> in
> > CST, since this is when primetime programming would end.
> The
> > primetime shows would be cut off if stations aired a 9
> > o'clock newscast. I didn't think there were that many 10
> PM
> > EST newscasts, which is why I thought there wouldn't be
> too
> > many 9 PM CST newscasts, either. I always thought 11:00
> news
> > has been the standard.

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> Some, KTTV, WNYW, KTVU, et al already had established news
> programming in the 10:00/9:00 hour so there was no
> disruption when they signed on with (or were bought by) Fox.

Pre-1986, didn't WOR-TV and WPIX also have 10PM newscasts? I don't have any NYC TV Guides from then to check.
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> We all know that Chicago's WGN Channel 9 airs its "late"
> newscast at 9:00 PM local time. So I was wondering, do any
> of your local stations have a 9 PM newscast? The earliest
> "late" news I know of is at 10 PM.
>
I know of some....

WFLD (Fox) Chicago (Where I am from)
KPLR (WB11) St. Louis
KSAS (Fox) Wichita, Kansas (I live here now)
WDAF (Fox) Kansas City (Does a 9 and 10, with a sitcom at 9:30)
KWGN (WB2) Denver
 
> Yes, I have lived my entire life on the east coast. My
> question is mainly focusing on the three major networks -
> ABC, NBC, and CBS. It just seems more common for there to be
> 11 PM newscasts, which would translate to 10 PM newscasts in
> CST, since this is when primetime programming would end. The
> primetime shows would be cut off if stations aired a 9
> o'clock newscast. I didn't think there were that many 10 PM
> EST newscasts, which is why I thought there wouldn't be too
> many 9 PM CST newscasts, either. I always thought 11:00 news
> has been the standard.
>
I grew up in Chicago, and back as far as I remembered, WGN used to have a 10:00 newscast with (help me out, hometowners) John Drury, Marty McNeeley and the like. They were going up against the big three in the '70's. It wasn't until I believe 1979?!? when the powers that be moved it up to 9 with local news for a half hour and the INN (Independent Network News) around 9:30. Then they decided to go local for a full hour in the early to mid-80's. They have been doing the newscasts for a long time as an Indy, and now as a WB affiliate. Also, when they were an Indy, they used to have a late night newscast called "Night Beat". It was on around 12:30 in the morning or after the 10:30 movie. Damn, I'm old!!!!LOL.
 
> > > Yes, I have lived my entire life on the east coast. My
> > > question is mainly focusing on the three major networks
> -
> > > ABC, NBC, and CBS. It just seems more common for there
> to
> > be
> > > 11 PM newscasts, which would translate to 10 PM
> newscasts
> > in
> > > CST, since this is when primetime programming would end.
>
> > The
> > > primetime shows would be cut off if stations aired a 9
> > > o'clock newscast. I didn't think there were that many 10
>
> > PM
> > > EST newscasts, which is why I thought there wouldn't be
> > too
> > > many 9 PM CST newscasts, either. I always thought 11:00
> > news
> > > has been the standard.
>
> [edit]
>
> > Some, KTTV, WNYW, KTVU, et al already had established news
>
> > programming in the 10:00/9:00 hour so there was no
> > disruption when they signed on with (or were bought by)
> Fox.
>
> Pre-1986, didn't WOR-TV and WPIX also have 10PM newscasts?
> I don't have any NYC TV Guides from then to check.
>
I know WOR-TV (pre WWOR-TV) used to have the Independent Network News (Thanks to Run-D.M.C.'s "You Talk Too Much" the lyrics were "You're like the Independent Network News on Channel 9"). I saw it on cable while at my cousins house in Memphis.
 
INN was on 11, not 9, in NYC

> I know WOR-TV (pre WWOR-TV) used to have the Independent
> Network News (Thanks to Run-D.M.C.'s "You Talk Too Much" the
> lyrics were "You're like the Independent Network News on
> Channel 9"). I saw it on cable while at my cousins house in
> Memphis.

Regardless of what Run-DMC wrote in their lyrics, INN was not on WOR-TV. It aired on -- and, in fact, originated at -- WPIX.
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Re: INN was on 11, not 9, in NYC

> Regardless of what Run-DMC wrote in their lyrics, INN was
> not on WOR-TV. It aired on -- and, in fact, originated at
> -- WPIX.
>
Maybe they referred to Chicago's WGN ch.9 (WPIX's sister station), which showed INN.
 
KLRT (Fox) in Little Rock has done a 9pm newscast since March 2004. Prior to that , the former WB affliate KKYK-LP did one about 1997 or so before quitting. At the time of the lanch of the then WB22 newscast there wasn't even coverage on the local cable so the audience non-existant (plus WGN was still relaying WB network nationally at the time).
 
> > > Yes, I have lived my entire life on the east coast. My
> > > question is mainly focusing on the three major networks
> -
> > > ABC, NBC, and CBS. It just seems more common for there
> to
> > be
> > > 11 PM newscasts, which would translate to 10 PM
> newscasts
> > in
> > > CST, since this is when primetime programming would end.
>
> > The
> > > primetime shows would be cut off if stations aired a 9
> > > o'clock newscast. I didn't think there were that many 10
>
> > PM
> > > EST newscasts, which is why I thought there wouldn't be
> > too
> > > many 9 PM CST newscasts, either. I always thought 11:00
> > news
> > > has been the standard.
>
> [edit]
>
> > Some, KTTV, WNYW, KTVU, et al already had established news
>
> > programming in the 10:00/9:00 hour so there was no
> > disruption when they signed on with (or were bought by)
> Fox.
>
> Pre-1986, didn't WOR-TV and WPIX also have 10PM newscasts?
> I don't have any NYC TV Guides from then to check.
>

I believe you are correct. I was naming some Fox affiliates that I knew of that had newscasts prior to joining that network.
 
> I grew up in Chicago, and back as far as I remembered, WGN
> used to have a 10:00 newscast with (help me out,
> hometowners) John Drury, Marty McNeeley and the like. They
> were going up against the big three in the '70's. It wasn't
> until I believe 1979?!? when the powers that be moved it up
> to 9 with local news for a half hour and the INN
> (Independent Network News) around 9:30. Then they decided
> to go local for a full hour in the early to mid-80's. They
> have been doing the newscasts for a long time as an Indy,
> and now as a WB affiliate. Also, when they were an Indy,
> they used to have a late night newscast called "Night Beat".
> It was on around 12:30 in the morning or after the 10:30
> movie. Damn, I'm old!!!!LOL.

In 1975, WGN-TV had news at (I hope this is right - I'm getting old as well :-D ):

4:45 with Jack Taylor & Harry Volkman. This one was gone by '77, IIRC. They ran 15 minutes of Rocky & Bullwinkle at 4:30 and I think Garfield Goose was at 5.

9:30 with Jack Taylor, Harry Volkman, Len O'Connor, & Jack Brickhouse or Lou Boudreau. John Drury came later, between his stints at WLS-TV. Until he retired in '76, "Ringmaster Ned" Locke occasionally substituted for Volkman.

12 Midnight with Marty McNeely. This was Nightbeat and followed the 10:00 movie.

I don't think they had a noon newscast yet, but since I was working for a living during that hour, I don't know for sure.
 
> I believe you are correct. I was naming some Fox affiliates
> that I knew of that had newscasts prior to joining that
> network.
>
In the South Bend Indiana market, WSJV was an ABC affiliate from the time it signed on (don't know when since the site doesn't have a timeline), but when ABC's ratings started sinking bigtime, WSJV decided to become a Fox affiliate in September 1996. They had news when they were ABC and it aired at 10pm during the summer and 11pm in the winter. Remember Eastern Time zone of Indiana currently doesn't observe Daylight Saving Time until next year. When they switched to being a Fox station, they started their news at 9pm in the summer & 10pm in the winter. They have to do it that way because Michigan observes daylight saving time and since most of the South Bend market is on eastern time zone, during the summer months, the news and network programming must be pushed back an hour in Indiana in order to be insync (if that's spelled correctly) with the viewers in the eastern time zone. That'll change next April when the rest of the state switches to daylight saving time and South Bend stations won't have to go through the hassle of pushing news and network programming an hour in Indiana just so the programming will stay on the same time in SW Michigan.
 
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