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Local radio is dying in Macedonia

Local radio stations in small towns are completely (but sloppily) automated. Most local broadcasters use Winamp or some questionable software for their automation. They don't even bother to set crossfading correctly: They either have TONS of dead air or a commercial/jingle gets crossfaded mid-sentence. I won't even comment on the audio processing: some stations have audio processors but set them up poorly, while others only use dubious limiters/clippers that cause severe distortion. Kudos to the very few stations that still keep radio live and local - I really appreciate them!
 
Local radio stations in small towns are completely (but sloppily) automated.
Most are not sloppy. Give examples if you are going to indict the whole industry.
Most local broadcasters use Winamp or some questionable software for their automation.
Actually, they use rather sophisticated radio-specific software that integrates the commercial log and the music log.
They don't even bother to set crossfading correctly:
That all depends, in most cases, on the program source provider which is generally a national service that provides specific formats to station all over the US.
They either have TONS of dead air or a commercial/jingle gets crossfaded mid-sentence.
Stations that do that are likely in dire straits and can't afford to do the quality of production required. More than half of all US radio stations were losing money ten years ago. It is worse now.
I won't even comment on the audio processing: some stations have audio processors but set them up poorly, while others only use dubious limiters/clippers that cause severe distortion.
All stations use broadcast quality audio processing, whether software or hardware based. Perhaps the station you are referring to sets it in a manner they like but which you don't!
Kudos to the very few stations that still keep radio live and local - I really appreciate them!
Some of the biggest and most popular music radio shows are neither live nor local, starting with Ryan Seacrest. Those shows are assembled from workparts created in the 20 hours prior to broadcast because that allows them to get artist interviews, features and other at the convenience of the outside source.

The only reason radio was "live and local" from the 50's through the next 4 decades or so was that technology was not advanced enough to do what we would have done back then if we could have. Add in the lack of the Internet and the cost of AT&T landlines in that era and doing networked music shows was nearly impossible.

Remember, in the first three decades of radio, nearly all programming was done from a network studio in LA, SF, Chicago, Detroit or New York. Stations were only "local" in off hours when few people listened.

And most of us would rather that a music station have Bobby Bones or Seacreast of Charlemagne da God or the likes because they have immediate access to people I want to hear... and not the local mayor or dog catcher.
 
Was the OP referring specifically to radio in Macedonia or to the world in general?
Pretty sure it was Macedonia specifically. That's how I read it, anyway, and I was surprised to see David respond with an indignant defense of American radio practices. Hopefully, the OP will clarify, and maybe someone with knowledge of Macedonian local radio (good luck with that) will respond.
 
Macedonia (listed officially as North Macedonia due to Greece also having a province named Macedonia) is less than 2 million people. And it's not wealthy. It ranks 42 out of 50 European countries in GDP.

So I guess these days there isn't much programming heard on local radio stations. Most countries that size just have several primary radio stations in the capital. And repeaters are set up in other towns and cities to rebroadcast the capital-based stations.

I think the U.S. is unique to have so many locally-based radio stations. Even American stations affiliated with a network, like NPR or Premiere Networks, will run some network shows. But most times they also have some local shows, local spots and local news. Only some struggling stations run everything the network sends with just a few local commercial breaks, such as some Sports Radio and Talk Radio stations. Or some Jack-FM stations.
 
Macedonian local radio stations (the few that bother being "live and local") are really live and local. The whole thing is LIVE directly from the local studio. No networked shows there.

About networked programming: Every 2nd local Macedonian radio station carries the exact same pre-recorded show produced by a random DJ.
 
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Macedonia (listed officially as North Macedonia due to Greece also having a province named Macedonia) is less than 2 million people. And it's not wealthy. It ranks 42 out of 50 European countries in GDP.
Yeah, that's why I was hesitant to reveal the country. The name dispute and the fact that we are poor.
So I guess these days there isn't much programming heard on local radio stations. Most countries that size just have several primary radio stations in the capital. And repeaters are set up in other towns and cities to rebroadcast the capital-based stations.
Radio stations are surprisingly common in our small country: Even the very small cities have at least 2 local radio stations competing with each other. Even though these days people that listen to local radio are mostly elderly people, radio was very popular in Macedonia 20 years ago. Pirate radio stations were also very popular.
I think the U.S. is unique to have so many locally-based radio stations. Even American stations affiliated with a network, like NPR or Premiere Networks, will run some network shows. But most times they also have some local shows, local spots and local news. Only some struggling stations run everything the network sends with just a few local commercial breaks, such as some Sports Radio and Talk Radio stations. Or some Jack-FM stations.
The Jack FM (called "retro hits" in Macedonia) format is somewhat popular with Macedonian radio stations. In Macedonia, there's only one sports radio station. Talk radio is nonexistent here.
 
All stations use broadcast quality audio processing, whether software or hardware based. Perhaps the station you are referring to sets it in a manner they like but which you don't!
Some stations in Macedonia use a limiter/clipper similar to the Gates Statesman FM Limiter and you know how terrible that thing sounds. Some even sound way way worse.
 
I was referring specifically to Macedonian radio. I don't know how David missed that.
You did not specify a station. Local radio in towns as small as Macedonia are dying nationally. I doubt that the Macedonia "market" can sustain even a single station for even just a few more years.
 
You did not specify a station. Local radio in towns as small as Macedonia are dying nationally. I doubt that the Macedonia "market" can sustain even a single station for even just a few more years.
It is not a single station. It's a whole list of stations.

Macedonia is a town in Ohio, but I'm talking about the country of Macedonia. Not the town.
 
Some stations in Macedonia use a limiter/clipper similar to the Gates Statesman FM Limiter and you know how terrible that thing sounds. Some even sound way way worse.
Actually, traditional limiters that do not use "read ahead" technology can sound just fine if not pushed. They are intended to keep a high level of modulation without over-modulation.

And in nations where stations are not severely regulated, one can generally avoid dirty peak limiting. That is because "100% modulation" is an arbitrary standard. You can modulate up to about 130% without the bandwidth of some receivers introducing distortion. So if occasional peaks are allowed over 100% in order to avoid hard clipping, you can sound very nice with those traditional limiters if some kind of AGC like an Apex Aual Exciter is inserted prior to the limiter, very good sound can be produced.
 
It is not a single station. It's a whole list of stations.

Macedonia is a town in Ohio, but I'm talking about the country of Macedonia. Not the town.
I was responding to the person who thought we were talking about the Ohio town.
 
And in nations where stations are not severely regulated, one can generally avoid dirty peak limiting. That is because "100% modulation" is an arbitrary standard. You can modulate up to about 130% without the bandwidth of some receivers introducing distortion. So if occasional peaks are allowed over 100% in order to avoid hard clipping, you can sound very nice with those traditional limiters if some kind of AGC like an Apex Aural Exciter is inserted prior to the limiter, very good sound can be produced.
You're right about that, but the stations push the limiter very very hard: to the point it's causing severe hard clipping and harmonic distortion, combine that with their old exciter that has dried out caps and what do you get: absolutely terrible audio.
Do the owners or staff of the station even have ears, I wonder? Can they actually hear the audio product that's coming out of the station? Embarrassing.
 
Share a few examples of bad local radio stations in north macedonia that stream.. i wanna hear this for myself
 
Yeah, that's why I was hesitant to reveal the country. The name dispute and the fact that we are poor.

Radio stations are surprisingly common in our small country: Even the very small cities have at least 2 local radio stations competing with each other. Even though these days people that listen to local radio are mostly elderly people, radio was very popular in Macedonia 20 years ago. Pirate radio stations were also very popular.

The Jack FM (called "retro hits" in Macedonia) format is somewhat popular with Macedonian radio stations. In Macedonia, there's only one sports radio station. Talk radio is nonexistent here.
Have there ever been any talk stations there? What sports does the sports station talk about?
 
Share a few examples of bad local radio stations in north macedonia that stream.. i wanna hear this for myself
Most of these stations do not have an internet presence because their owners do not have the budget to put their station on the internet.


Radio Aleksandar Makedonski (The Greeks will be fuming when they read the station name :)) is one great example, but it is not the worst example. There is always worse.

Awful sound quality, awful Winamp automation, ugh. A pain to listen to.

EDIT: They appear to have fixed the sound quality on stream: there's still the occasional hard clipped liner and announcement but it's good now. It used to be dire.
 
I think what they did was place an AGC before that limiter :)
They did what David said, they're improving! I'm proud! I just hope the other stations are going to do that too. Just 3 months ago the sound used to be absolutely AWFUL. I even heard it on FM. I will find a recording on my hard disk and post it soon.
 


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