LOL --- HD Radio Is Agent Orange!

[audiophile.]

I was a NAIAS (North American International Auto Show) yesterday in Detroit and Iniquity was nowhere to be found!

XM and Sirius had huge displays (one on each side of the main entrance to the floor).

No sign of the "Agent Orange" either.

My guess is Iniquity is going on the cheap and had to settle for couple of dropouts (much like there defective technology) in orange suits in order pettle their message. I guess they couldn't afford the dropouts for all the days of the show...

 

[SUPERCASTER]

HD digital radio to FM mobile converters reduces the fidelity to FM quality (at best) and are the very type of low powered FM transmitters such as used by MP3 players and iPods, that the NAB, cartel, and NPR are trying to get banned. Talk about hypocrisy.

If broadcasters have all this fantastic programming to put on HD radio that is so wonderful and compelling enough to make consumers drop everything and run out to spend hundreds of dollars each for new HD radios, why don't they put it on their analog channels, where they could get better ratings, sell ads to advertisers, make money, delight their shareholders, and actually have real listeners?

The answer is, they have no such programming, otherwise it would be on their main analog channels. It is just another fraud.

The big lie again. Lies, and more lies, covered up by another layer of lies.

The cartel realizes that it would take a miracle to sell the public on HD radio. Since they don't have one, they went to plan B, a continuous campaign of lies.

His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it. - OSS report page 51 [2]

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie

Yes, HD radio could be the "agent orange" of broadcasting.

 

[ElCheapo]

If broadcasters have all this fantastic programming to put on HD radio that is so wonderful and compelling enough to make consumers drop everything and run out to spend hundreds of dollars each for new HD radios, why don't they put it on their analog channels, where they could get better ratings, sell ads to advertisers, make money, delight their shareholders, and actually have real listeners?

The answer is, they have no such programming, otherwise it would be on their main analog channels. It is just another fraud.

The big lie again. Lies, and more lies, covered up by another layer of lies.

When you get a chance, look up the word "niche."

There are a lot of formats that could be somewhat viable that don't merit a primary frequency.

Liberal Talk - the ever imploding Air America keeps losing its spot on traditional stations, but it might find a home on HD2.

Country - country has a huge and passionate fan base, but apparently not large enough to sustain a traditional channel in the country's #1 and #2 markets. It has found a home on HD2 in LA and NY.

Deep Tracks - album cuts aren't "popular" music by definition, but they clearly have fans. Not enough to sustain a traditional channel in most markets, but enough to justify an HD2 channel.

Decade Channels - they fail just about any time they're put on a traditional frequency. All 80s stations were all the rage a few years ago - until everyone found out they have a shelf life of about 6 months. I personally don't see the harm of devoting an HD2 channel to them.

Smooth Jazz - smooth jazz stations typically have very large fan bases that are extremely passionate about the music. They turn out in droves for concerts and other station promotions. Unfortunately, they're also too hip for the room and can't be bothered with filling out Arbitron diaries so they lose their traditional channels. They would be a perfect match for HD2.

Triple A - See Smooth Jazz... Different music, roughly the same attitudes in the fan base.

Gay Radio - WKSC-HD2 is apparently doing well with the gay community in Chicago. Is the gay community large enough to support a traditional signal? Probably not.

There's any number of unique formats that can flourish on HD2 but aren't worth wasting a traditional signal on. Tropical, Heavy Metal, All Beatles, Gospel, All Mix Show, Retro Alternative, Blues, Spanish News, Live Tracks, Dance.

These are all formats currently being broadcast on HD2 that could not sustain a traditional channel from a revenue standpoint in their respective markets. Gospel can sustain a traditional channel in the deep south. It can't in the north, but fans could find a home on HD2. Tropical or Carribean might work well in Miami on traditional radio. It probably can't support a traditional signal in Washington D.C. but it could find a home on HD2.

I realize I'm lying through my teeth and there couldn't be a shred of truth in any of this. There couldn't possibly be fans of 80s music, or deep tracks, or jazz that might be interested in this stuff.

 

[SUPERCASTER]

If broadcasters have all this fantastic programming to put on HD radio that is so wonderful and compelling enough to make consumers drop everything and run out to spend hundreds of dollars each for new HD radios, why don't they put it on their analog channels, where they could get better ratings, sell ads to advertisers, make money, delight their shareholders, and actually have real listeners?

The answer is, they have no such programming, otherwise it would be on their main analog channels. It is just another fraud.

The big lie again. Lies, and more lies, covered up by another layer of lies.

When you get a chance, look up the word "niche."

There are a lot of formats that could be somewhat viable that don't merit a primary frequency.

Liberal Talk - the ever imploding Air America keeps losing its spot on traditional stations, but it might find a home on HD2.

Country - country has a huge and passionate fan base, but apparently not large enough to sustain a traditional channel in the country's #1 and #2 markets. It has found a home on HD2 in LA and NY.

Deep Tracks - album cuts aren't "popular" music by definition, but they clearly have fans. Not enough to sustain a traditional channel in most markets, but enough to justify an HD2 channel.

Decade Channels - they fail just about any time they're put on a traditional frequency. All 80s stations were all the rage a few years ago - until everyone found out they have a shelf life of about 6 months. I personally don't see the harm of devoting an HD2 channel to them.

Smooth Jazz - smooth jazz stations typically have very large fan bases that are extremely passionate about the music. They turn out in droves for concerts and other station promotions. Unfortunately, they're also too hip for the room and can't be bothered with filling out Arbitron diaries so they lose their traditional channels. They would be a perfect match for HD2.

Triple A - See Smooth Jazz... Different music, roughly the same attitudes in the fan base.

Gay Radio - WKSC-HD2 is apparently doing well with the gay community in Chicago. Is the gay community large enough to support a traditional signal? Probably not.

There's any number of unique formats that can flourish on HD2 but aren't worth wasting a traditional signal on. Tropical, Heavy Metal, All Beatles, Gospel, All Mix Show, Retro Alternative, Blues, Spanish News, Live Tracks, Dance.

These are all formats currently being broadcast on HD2 that could not sustain a traditional channel from a revenue standpoint in their respective markets. Gospel can sustain a traditional channel in the deep south. It can't in the north, but fans could find a home on HD2. Tropical or Carribean might work well in Miami on traditional radio. It probably can't support a traditional signal in Washington D.C. but it could find a home on HD2.

I realize I'm lying through my teeth and there couldn't be a shred of truth in any of this. There couldn't possibly be fans of 80s music, or deep tracks, or jazz that might be interested in this stuff.

iBiquity HD radio supporters often come here to ridicule the "niche" programming already available on local stations and worldwide over internet streams and stations. This is precisely the programming many of the smaller stations that are being jammed by HD radio now provide. These formats, and much more, are already available to the public. Because they are so very specialized it is doubtful that many can make a profit from the defective, destructive, unnecessary, short range, iBiquity HD radio system. Just as with the old FM SCA system, there are often not enough listeners to support this type of over the air specialization within sight of the broadcasting towers. If this type of "niche" broadcasting is desired or viable it is much more easily, cheaply, and efficiently done by FMeXtra (www.dreinc.com). Without all the HD radio interference, licensing, expense, or complexity needed for HD radio broadcasting.

Yes, your post is, as usual, misleading.

 

[ElCheapo]

iBiquity HD radio supporters often come here to ridicule the "niche" programming already available on local stations and worldwide over internet streams and stations. This is precisely the programming many of the smaller stations that are being jammed by HD radio now provide. These formats, and much more, are already available to the public. Because they are so very specialized it is doubtful that many can make a profit from the defective, destructive, unnecessary, short range, iBiquity HD radio system. Just as with the old FM SCA system, there are often not enough listeners to support this type of over the air specialization within sight of the broadcasting towers. If this type of "niche" broadcasting is desired or viable it is much more easily, cheaply, and efficiently done by FMeXtra (www.dreinc.com). Without all the HD radio interference, licensing, expense, or complexity needed for HD radio broadcasting.

Yes, your post is, as usual, misleading.

And as usual, your post is even more misleading.

Show me a market where you can DX smooth jazz, deep tracks, triple A, heavy metal and blues. Good luck. Better yet, show me a market where you can reliably listen to all of these fringe signals in say - downtown. Again, good luck.

Not everyone is keen on carrying a laptop around with them in their cars just to listen to these formats, which is where the current state of the art for mobile streaming is. One of the regular HD bashers in this forum likes to connect his cell phone to his laptop and drive around California streaming audio - a practice he appropriately describes as "bleeding edge."

Until you can get reliable mobile internet streams in your car from a device with the look and feel of a traditional in-dash radio, this mobile internet streaming dream of yours is just that - a dream.

In-dash HD Radio is a reality today and does offer the format choices I outlined above, plus many more.

 

[vsa]

ElCheapo wrote: "One of the regular HD bashers in this forum likes to connect his cell phone to his laptop and drive around California streaming audio - a practice he appropriately describes as "bleeding edge."

There is no reason to use a cell phone AND a laptop to stream audio in a car. A cell phone is all one needs. The only time you tether a laptop to a cell phone is if you want to connect the laptop to the wireless web without using a special card.

 

[SUPERCASTER]

iBiquity HD radio supporters often come here to ridicule the "niche" programming already available on local stations and worldwide over internet streams and stations. This is precisely the programming many of the smaller stations that are being jammed by HD radio now provide. These formats, and much more, are already available to the public. Because they are so very specialized it is doubtful that many can make a profit from the defective, destructive, unnecessary, short range, iBiquity HD radio system. Just as with the old FM SCA system, there are often not enough listeners to support this type of over the air specialization within sight of the broadcasting towers. If this type of "niche" broadcasting is desired or viable it is much more easily, cheaply, and efficiently done by FMeXtra (www.dreinc.com). Without all the HD radio interference, licensing, expense, or complexity needed for HD radio broadcasting.

Yes, your post is, as usual, misleading.

And as usual, your post is even more misleading.

Show me a market where you can DX smooth jazz, deep tracks, triple A, heavy metal and blues. Good luck. Better yet, show me a market where you can reliably listen to all of these fringe signals in say - downtown. Again, good luck.

Not everyone is keen on carrying a laptop around with them in their cars just to listen to these formats, which is where the current state of the art for mobile streaming is. One of the regular HD bashers in this forum likes to connect his cell phone to his laptop and drive around California streaming audio - a practice he appropriately describes as "bleeding edge."

Until you can get reliable mobile internet streams in your car from a device with the look and feel of a traditional in-dash radio, this mobile internet streaming dream of yours is just that - a dream.

In-dash HD Radio is a reality today and does offer the format choices I outlined above, plus many more.

Just more of your disinformation.

Disinformation is the deliberate dissemination of false information. It may include the distribution of forged documents, manuscripts, and photographs, or propagation of malicious rumours and fabricated intelligence. In the context of espionage or military intelligence, it is the spreading of deliberately false information to mislead an enemy as to one's position or course of action. It also includes the distortion of true information in such a way as to render it useless.

Disinformation techniques may also be found in commerce and government, used by one group to try to undermine the position of a competitor.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation
Almost none of what you said in the above post is true.
If internet mobile streaming is a dream, then by comparison HD radio is a nightmare.
HD radio signal penetration downtown and in buildings is very poor, to nonexistent.
With the same outdoor antenna necessary for HD radio, you can get the fringe stations.
Where is the location where HD radio provides reliable indoor reception without an outdoor antenna for all the niche formats you mention?
With the same outdoor FM antenna you can also get the fringe FM stations, as long as HD radio does not buzz them away.