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Lose The Retros

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fred flintstone

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Once again, this board is being cluttered with old TV schedules.

I used to know a guy who got the newspaper every day but mostly did not have time to read it. He kept the newspapers and wouldn't throw one out until he had read it. He read them in the order received. He kept getting further and further behind. After a while, he rented a second apartment on his floor to make room for the newspapers. He never could keep up. That second apartment was filled with stacks of old newspapers.

This board with all the retros reminds me of his apartment.

This is a discussion board. There is nothing to discuss in old schedules (some of them are not even that old). All but a few are for places I've never lived. These posts are a total waste. And its a major pain to wade through them to find something worth reading and worth talking about.

But the same couple of people keep spamming this board with these Retros. Why? Who cares?
The map is not the territory.
The menu is not the meal.
And Retros are not classic TV.
 
fred flintstone said:
Once again, this board is being cluttered with old TV schedules.

I used to know a guy who got the newspaper every day but mostly did not have time to read it. He kept the newspapers and wouldn't throw one out until he had read it. He read them in the order received. He kept getting further and further behind. After a while, he rented a second apartment on his floor to make room for the newspapers. He never could keep up. That second apartment was filled with stacks of old newspapers.

This board with all the retros reminds me of his apartment.

This is a discussion board. There is nothing to discuss in old schedules (some of them are not even that old). All but a few are for places I've never lived. These posts are a total waste. And its a major pain to wade through them to find something worth reading and worth talking about.

But the same couple of people keep spamming this board with these Retros. Why? Who cares?
The map is not the territory.
The menu is not the meal.
And Retros are not classic TV.

I'm sorry that you feel that way about people posting old TV schedules. If you feel that you have a problem with that,take it up with the moderators on this board. I personally like to see the retro TV schedules on here myself since basically they are a part of classic TV and showed what aired in different parts of the United States.

Again,I'm sorry that you have a problem with people posting retro TV schedules. Take it up with the moderators.
 
The reason this board exists in the first place is because the national TV board was cluttered with these. This is the proper place for retro schedules, but some people tend to put too many up at once. I think one or two per market per era (say, for Boston in 1955) is just fine, not 5-10 like some folks do it.

This board only displays 10 threads per page so any more than a very few schedules from the same market pushes other threads down.
 
KeithE4 said:
The reason this board exists in the first place is because the national TV board was cluttered with these. This is the proper place for retro schedules, but some people tend to put too many up at once. I think one or two per market per era (say, for Boston in 1955) is just fine, not 5-10 like some folks do it.

This board only displays 10 threads per page so any more than a very few schedules from the same market pushes other threads down.

A lot of people on here like me like the retro TV schedules because they enjoy seeing what was on back on a certain date. Some people save newspapers of their birthdays which contain the TV schedules from the exact day of their birth,others for their kids' births,high school graduations,day they were married,etc. Others find TV Guides at garage sales and estate sales and they do that as a hobby and as a collector. I found a November 1978 TV Guide with Suzanne Somers on it at an estate sale,also I have some TV Guides from 1981 and 1982 which I found at a garage sale.

I do not know why ONE person on here wants to complain about people wanting to post retro TV schedules on here. ??? Since the very fact is that the very poster in question who is complaining does not frequent this board very often. Guess there has to be one Killjoy who wants to spoil it all.

P.S.: I also have posted retro TV schedules from San Antonio and Corpus Christi. So guess now that makes me one of the villians on here that constantly does it.
 
fred flintstone said:
Once again, this board is being cluttered with old TV schedules.

Lighten up, Francis...er, Fred! ;D

If you don't like retro skeds, don't read 'em.

Kind of like "your TV has an off switch, use it if you don't like what's on."

Here's another vote for the retros, and as has been stated above,
this board was created for them.
 
>>Lighten up, Francis...er, Fred! Grin
If you don't like retro skeds, don't read 'em.
Kind of like "your TV has an off switch, use it if you don't like what's on."
Here's another vote for the retros, and as has been stated above,
this board was created for them.<<

I for one LOVE the retro skeds. After all, this was the reason for the Classic TV board to be created in the first place. If you don't like the place, call Mr. Slate. Bye y'all.
 
We should definetly get rid of the retros guys.
Fred doenst like it.
WHAT FRED SAYS GOES!
::)

On a serious note.
I love the retro schedules.
You dont like it dont read it simple as that.
 
OK, I don't like the Retros so I don't read them. But what I think is interesting, if you look at the number of Retro posts (and there are a lot of them), they seem to generate very little response. In most cases, there are no replies at all and the number of people viewing them seems to be on the thin side as well.

I think limiting the number of Retros is not a bad idea. Do we realy need entire pages taken up by old schedules?

And stop blasting Fred for posting his comments. That's what the board is here for. You can agree or disagree...but if you were having this discussion face-to-face, I suspect you would all be a little more civil and polite.
 
>>And stop blasting Fred for posting his comments. That's what the board is here for. You can agree or disagree...but if you were having this discussion face-to-face, I suspect you would all be a little more civil and polite.<<

It would be nice if he would do likewise. Check out the Detroit board and see the comments "Fred" wrote about my posting regarding the two CKLW-FM oldies experiments. His comments were not exactly pleasant. In my nearly 13 years of surfing the web, it's rare that I have received such a uncalled for reply such as Fred's. I couldn't help it if my information coincided with the information in his previous posting about CK ("The Big 8"). And so it goes.......
 
dmargalotti said:
OK, I don't like the Retros so I don't read them. But what I think is interesting, if you look at the number of Retro posts (and there are a lot of them), they seem to generate very little response. In most cases, there are no replies at all and the number of people viewing them seems to be on the thin side as well.

I think limiting the number of Retros is not a bad idea. Do we realy need entire pages taken up by old schedules?

Then I would suggest that there would be a Retro TV board on here. This way we can post schedules and then we can talk about what programs were on back then and what wasn't shown on each thread. Actually,we do talk about the schedules and there are a number of posts that have more than one reply on them. I really have no time in the world arguing with a Killjoy who wants us NOT to post any Retro TV schedules on this board. Sometimes in this day and age,if you post something you get your head snapped off. That's just the way I feel and I think others feel the same way.

Thanks a lot,Fred,for being a Killjoy. ::)
 
We could start a forum just for retro schedules, though of course, Fred would ask us to cut it out on THAT board.

There's just no pleasing some people.
 
A big part of the reason why I don't post on this board as much as I once did is because Page One is often cluttered with Retros when I check in. Nothing much there to talk about.

Unless you go back to TV's early days, the schedule in different markets was pretty much the same.

I think the idea of limiting the number of Retros is a good one and I would not have a problem with one or two Retro threads (out of 10) on Page One. That would require voluntary self-restraint on the part of the primary Retro posters, since I don't see a practical way for the moderators to enforce a quota.

Short of a Retro Board, one possibility would be to put Retros on the State and Local TV boards. That way they all would not show up in one place. And even I am reasonably curious about what my hometown station showed 30 years ago today, while I could care less about what was on in - say - Topeka. And it would make the Retros seem less "spam-like" if they posted anniversaries only (10 years ago today, 20 years ago today, etc).

It's not the idea of Retros so much, as the quantity and the lack of opportunity for discussion Retros provide. For those of us who come here for discussion, a page cluttered with Retros is a "kill-joy."

PS: Peter, instead of replying to a thread in a thread, you started a new thread for your reply. I called you on it. It was a violaton of board etiquette and disrupts the flow of the discussion; I say my comments were called for.
 
fred flintstone said:
A big part of the reason why I don't post on this board as much as I once did is because Page One is often cluttered with Retros when I check in. Nothing much there to talk about.

Unless you go back to TV's early days, the schedule in different markets was pretty much the same.

I think the idea of limiting the number of Retros is a good one and I would not have a problem with one or two Retro threads (out of 10) on Page One. That would require voluntary self-restraint on the part of the primary Retro posters, since I don't see a practical way for the moderators to enforce a quota.

Short of a Retro Board, one possibility would be to put Retros on the State and Local TV boards. That way they all would not show up in one place. And even I am reasonably curious about what my hometown station showed 30 years ago today, while I could care less about what was on in - say - Topeka. And it would make the Retros seem less "spam-like" if they posted anniversaries only (10 years ago today, 20 years ago today, etc).

It's not the idea of Retros so much, as the quantity and the lack of opportunity for discussion Retros provide. For those of us who come here for discussion, a page cluttered with Retros is a "kill-joy."

PS: Peter, instead of replying to a thread in a thread, you started a new thread for your reply. I called you on it. It was a violaton of board etiquette and disrupts the flow of the discussion; I say my comments were called for.

Like Azumanga said,"There's no pleasing people around here."

Fred,I'm going to tell you what a "killjoy" is,in case it has slipped your mind.

killjoy: noun - someone who spoils the fun or happiness of another

And that's basically what you are is a killjoy. What is the sin of posting Retro TV schedules on here? They are enjoyable and I like seeing them here whether or not you like them or not. If you do not like them,go some place else on this board or any other board and talk about something else. You can't prevent any one of us on here into posting whatever we want to when we want to. You don't own any of these boards on here. And believe me,I have met some people who thought they owned message boards.

Have a nice day,Fred. ;)
 
I am in favor of a separate Retro TV Schedule board. Of course even that won't make Fred Flintstone happy.
 
Fred is welcome to his opinion. Again, it's an opinion that's more fittingly voiced on the Ask Radio-Info board. We can certainly explore the desirability of splitting the Retros on to another board. I think the discussion here is healthy although I wish some of the spiteful remarks would stop. You can disagree without being disagreeable. How about focusing on the validity of Fred's remarks and less on the exchange of cheap shots?

Keep in mind that we try to balance the interests of ALL users on this particular board, not just the most vocal ones.

Let's talk about why or why not Fred's right...
 
Managing Board Editor said:
Fred is welcome to his opinion. Again, it's an opinion that's more fittingly voiced on the Ask Radio-Info board. We can certainly explore the desirability of splitting the Retros on to another board. I think the discussion here is healthy although I wish some of the spiteful remarks would stop. You can disagree without being disagreeable. How about focusing on the validity of Fred's remarks and less on the exchange of cheap shots?

Keep in mind that we try to balance the interests of ALL users on this particular board, not just the most vocal ones.

Let's talk about why or why not Fred's right...

Well,according to Fred here,he made a stereotypical remark in his first post telling us that the Retro TV schedules that any one of us post on here were akin to clutter in an attic. That's what I'm against that he doesn't like for any one of us to post Retro TV schedules because he hates them--YET,he doesn't frequent this board all that much,and then when he does,he gets into his griping and complaining mode. I collect TV Guides and newspapers which have TV schedules and I put them where there is no clutter.

Yes,I know that he has a right to his opinion,but don't let it prevent anyone to post any Retro schedules on here on account of him. As I said in a post that he doesn't own this part or ANY part of these boards,but seems like he wants to take the fun out of everything. That is what I'm against. And with that,I may be off these boards for awhile until someone figures out what to do about this situation. If there is going to be a Retro TV schedule board,I'll be back on here,but this has made me leary of posting anything on this board waiting until Fred starts going "Oh No,not another Retro TV schedule"

Have a nice day,everyone.
 
Managing Editor: Maybe it would have been more appropriate to post this on Ask RI but I did want responses from the people on this board (and I got it).

I learned something from some of the replies. It's not the Retros, per se, that I mind so much. It's the quantity and the seemingly random nature of the Retros. Some of the posts in this thread did remind me that I have enjoyed looking at Retros for markets where I've lived and work, or for meaningful dates. The problem I have is with the quantity and the random, thoughtless nature of retro posts.

My reaction would be different if more information came with the retros, rather than just bare-bones schedules. What were these shows? What was happening in the market then.

Those who call me a "kill joy" remind me of smokers who complain about those of us who want don't want smokers around us in restaurants. The Retros drive away real discussion of Classic TV, just as second-hand smoke drives away unpolluted air.
 
fred flintstone said:
Managing Editor: Maybe it would have been more appropriate to post this on Ask RI but I did want responses from the people on this board (and I got it).

I learned something from some of the replies. It's not the Retros, per se, that I mind so much. It's the quantity and the seemingly random nature of the Retros. Some of the posts in this thread did remind me that I have enjoyed looking at Retros for markets where I've lived and work, or for meaningful dates. The problem I have is with the quantity and the random, thoughtless nature of retro posts.

My reaction would be different if more information came with the retros, rather than just bare-bones schedules. What were these shows? What was happening in the market then.

Those who call me a "kill joy" remind me of smokers who complain about those of us who want don't want smokers around us in restaurants. The Retros drive away real discussion of Classic TV, just as second-hand smoke drives away unpolluted air.

Wow,more stereotypicalism from Fred Flintstone. You are the one who want people to stop the Retro TV schedules on here. Now those who call you a killjoy are akin to non-smokers who don't want smokers around a table at a restaurant. I don't smoke,but I think that it is a stupid analogy.

You want people to be driven away from this board?!! Is that your real intent in driving people off this board? Do we have to have permission from you each and every time we do something on here? You are just about to see one of those(me) driven away by a killjoy(you Fred) who threw a tangent because of someone who doesn't like Retro TV schedules and constantly griping about it.
 
I've been reading the posts on this subject, and I can somewhat agree with Fred about the quanity of retro schedule posts. However, I do enjoy reading them...curiousity usually peaks my interests at times. However, I think a better compromise would be open a thread pertaining to a particular market/region of the country, and just post new schedules in those dedicated threads, instead of just opening up a new thread with only one set of skeds for a particular time frame.
 
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