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Major Cities Without a Network O&O/s

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bringbackradio

There are major cities where NONE of their television stations are owned and operated by any network.

Some I can think of at the top, though I could be wrong:

Las Vegas
San Antonio
Charlotte
Hampton Roads (as of recent)
St. Louis (as of recent)

Any more?
 
bringbackradio said:
There are major cities where NONE of their television stations are owned and operated by any network.

Some I can think of at the top, though I could be wrong:

Las Vegas
San Antonio
Charlotte
Hampton Roads (as of recent)
St. Louis (as of recent)

Any more?
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Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus OH
 
I would not consider any of the towns you listed as major cities. Maybe I'm way off here? Vegas is big but most of the people there are tourist.
 
poledo said:
I would not consider any of the towns you listed as major cities. Maybe I'm way off here? Vegas is big but most of the people there are tourist.
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If you limit the list to the top fifty markets, Las Vegas would qualify, as they're the 40th largest TV market.

Seattle-Tacoma is tricky, whereas ABC, CBS, NBC, and Fox doesn't own their network-affiliated stations, CBS does own a TV station there, KSTW (affiliated with The CW). Take KSTW out, then they're the largest market in the country where none of the Big Four owns a station. KOMO (ABC) is owned by Fisher, KING (NBC) by Belo, KIRO (CBS) by Cox, and KCPQ (Fox) by Tribune.

The Cleveland-Akron-Canton market is the biggest in the country where none of the Big Four owns a station, regardless of whether it carries the primary network or the secondary (The CW or MyTV).
 
I would've said Providence/New Bedford, until I saw that they're ranked around #53. WJAR-TV (NBC) channel 10 was previously owned by NBC but is no longer. LIN owns WPRI-TV (CBS) channel 12 and operates WNAC-TV (FOX) channel 64 as their sister station. I forget who operates WLNE-TV (ABC) channel 6 and WLWC-TV (CW) channel 28 today.
 
mgsports said:
KC and Orlando
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Kansas City, yes...

4 WDAF (Fox)--Local TV, LLC (the station was formerly owned by Fox)
5 KCTV (CBS)--Meredith
9 KMBC (ABC)--Hearst
41 KSHB (NBC)--Scripps

Orlando, no...

2 WESH (NBC)--Hearst
6 WKMG (CBS)--Post Newsweek
9 WFTV (ABC)--Cox
35 WOFL (Fox)--Fox; also owns MyTV outlet WRBW 65
 
Portland Oregon has none of them.

And channel 28 in Providence used to be owned by Viacom when UPN existed, if that counts for anything.
 
If were limiting this to the top 50 markets, then Oklahoma City, which was ranked #45 last I checked, qualifies too:
4 KFOR (NBC) - Local TV, LLC
5 KOCO (ABC)- Hearst
9 KWTV (CBS) - Griffin Communications (locally-based company)
25 KSHB (NBC)--Sinclair

The only network-owned stations that we have in this market are not aligned with any of the four major primary and two secondary networks: KTBO (TBN), KOCM (Daystar) and KOPX (Ion). We used to have a UPN O&O though, when Paramount/Viacom owned KAUT 43 (now a MyNetworkTV affiliate) from 1998 to 2005, it was sold to the New York Times Company (KFOR's former owners) around the time of the CBS-Viacom split (shortly before UPN and The WB announced The CW merger), and it and KFOR got traded to Local TV a year later.
 
Birmingham has two stations that were formerly O and O's, but currently has none:

6-WBRC (Fox)---formerly Fox O & O, now owned by Raycom
13-WVTM (NBC)---formerly NBC O & O, now owned by Media General
21-WTTO (CW) & 68-WABM (MNTV)---Sinclair
33/40-WCFT/WJSU (ABC)---Albritton
42-WIAT (CBS)---formerly owned by Media General, currenly owned by New Vision, sale pending to LIN
 
tmanokc said:
If were limiting this to the top 50 markets, then Oklahoma City, which was ranked #45 last I checked, qualifies too:
4 KFOR (NBC) - Local TV, LLC
5 KOCO (ABC)- Hearst
9 KWTV (CBS) - Griffin Communications (locally-based company)
25 KSHB (NBC)--Sinclair
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25 should be "KOKH (Fox)".
 
azumanga said:
tmanokc said:
If were limiting this to the top 50 markets, then Oklahoma City, which was ranked #45 last I checked, qualifies too:
4 KFOR (NBC) - Local TV, LLC
5 KOCO (ABC)- Hearst
9 KWTV (CBS) - Griffin Communications (locally-based company)
25 KSHB (NBC)--Sinclair
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25 should be "KOKH (Fox)".
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Right, my mistake. Too late to change it, though. Stupid time limits. :-[

Anyway, Nashville fits here:
2 WKRN (ABC) - Young
4 WSMV (NBC) - Meredith
5 WTVF (CBS) - Landmark
17 WZTV (Fox) & 30 WUXP (MNTV) - Sinclair
58 WNAB (CW) - managed by Sinclair, but owned by Tennessee Broadcasting

As does Salt Lake City, if you only count English-language stations (KUTH-DT is owned by Univision):
2 KUTV (CBS) & 12 KMYU (MNTV) - Sinclair (KUTV was formerly owned by CBS)
4 KTVX (ABC) - Newport, soon to be purchased by Nexstar
5 KSL (NBC) - Bonneville
13 KSTU (Fox) - Local TV (formerly owned by Fox)
30 KUCW (CW) - managed by Newport, but owned by High Plains Broadcasting, soon to be purchased by Nexstar

And then, Louisville:
3 WAVE (NBC) - Raycom
11 WHAS (ABC) - Belo
32 WLKY (CBS) - Hearst
34 WBKI (CW) - Louisville TV Licenses, soon to be purchased by LM Communications and managed by Block
41 WDRB (Fox) & 58 WMYO (MNTV) - Block
 
Portland Oregon currently has no network O&O's.

KATU 2 - ABC - Owned by Fisher Communications
KOIN 6 - CBS - Owned by New Vision Communications (sale pending to LIN)
KGW 8 - NBC - Owned by Belo

KPTV 12 - Fox - Owned by Meredith Corporation (former Fox O&O?)
KRCW 32 - CW - Owned by Tribune
KSPX 40 - MNTV - Owned by Meredith Corporation
 
KPTV used to be UPN, but I don't remember them being an O&O Fox stn...

-crainbebo
 
crainbebo said:
KPTV used to be UPN, but I don't remember them being an O&O Fox stn...
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They very briefly were for several months between after the Chris-Craft sale closed and before Fox swapped them to Meredith for WOFL and WOGX.
 
jdb820 said:
crainbebo said:
KPTV used to be UPN, but I don't remember them being an O&O Fox stn...
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They very briefly were for several months between after the Chris-Craft sale closed and before Fox swapped them to Meredith for WOFL and WOGX.
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KPTV could also have been considered as a former UPN O&O since Chris-Craft/United Television jointly owned UPN with Paramount/Viacom until it bought the former's stake in the network in 2000.
 
Also noticed that the MNTV in Portland is supposed to be KPDX, channel 49. It was a Fox affiliate for years [KPTV had it in the beginning, and after 2002].

-crainbebo
 
Add Greenville/Spartanburg/Asheville:

WYFF Ch. 4 (NBC) Hearst
WSPA Ch. 7 (CBS) Media General
WLOS Ch. 13 (ABC) Sinclair
WHNS Ch. 21 (Fox) Meredith

And Greensboro/Winston-Salem/High Point:

WFMY Ch. 2 (CBS) Gannett
WGHP Ch. 8 (Fox) Oak Hill Partners (former Fox o&o)
WXII Ch. 12 (NBC) Hearst
WXLV Ch. 45 (ABC) Sinclair
 
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