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Markets where all 4 major networks are on UHF

RadioPatrol said:
Bakersfield is another city where all the major stations are on UHF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWVDbCfYXlc


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KERO-TV

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGET-TV

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KBAK-TV

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KBFX-CD
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KERO-TV 23.x broadcasts on Channel 10, which ironically is the channel where they started in the analog days (1953-63). Again, the PSIP assignment is not indicative of the transmitter frequency or band, although it can be. In this case, it's not.
 
Obviously the number is a lot bigger than in the pre-digital days. Fort Wayne has to be one of the oldest all-UHF markets, though...WISE/33 (NBC primary since 1953), WANE/15 (CBS primary since 1954), WPTA/21 (ABC since 1957), and WFFT/55 (Fox since that network came to be, except for a brief period a couple years ago).
 
Sorry guys about the confusion, I was actually talking about old fashioned channel numbers, not their actual physical channel..............but I must say, I think you guys made the thread more interesting and enjoyable by going BOTH ways.
 
gregg75 said:
Sorry guys about the confusion, I was actually talking about old fashioned channel numbers, not their actual physical channel..............but I must say, I think you guys made the thread more interesting and enjoyable by going BOTH ways.
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The "old fashioned channel numbers," aka PSIP assignments, are only for the convenience of the viewer and the station's marketing department. KERO-TV was on Channel 23 for 46 years (1963-2009). Why should they be forced to ID as Channel 10 as a digital station, even in their case (which is unusual, if not extremely rare) where they actually operated on Channel 10 at one time. Unless they want to, of course, and some stations have elected to do so.
 
5 pages and no one mentions Yakima?
NBC - KNDO 23
CBS - KIMA 29
ABC - KAPP 35
FOX - KCYU-LD 41

PBS is also on UHF, KYVE-47.
We've been this way since TV arrived in the market in 1953 w/ the sign on of KIMA.
Tri-Cities was also a UHF island until 1999, when KFFX-11 (Fox) arrived to town. KFFX replaced a low-power satellite of KAYU Spokane (KBWU-LP). KBWU is still around as a translator of KFFX.
 
unclehonkey said:
It was the 4th post made in the thread
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I'm surprised it didn't take until I was reply #30 to this thread (end of 3rd page) and I was the first to mention Peoria/Bloomington, last Monday. Then one day later is the big announcement of Quincy Media's acquisition of the ABC and CW+ affils from WHOI for use on WEEK's subchannels.

Although as I alluded to in my reply last Monday, IMO Peoria is/was one of those UHF islands with an Asterisk next to it, if there was such a thing. Not only with WWTO's digital RF 10 (virtual 35) signal covering most of the northern part of the market north of Interstate 74 (from their tower near Starved Rock State Park east of LaSalle, IL--still technically in Chicago DMA). But also because the Quad Cities' traditional V's in the analog era--WHBF-4 CBS, KWQC-6 NBC (WOC-TV until fall 1986), WQAD-8 ABC--had their Grade B signals include most of Peoria's city limits. And once you get outside of the immediate Peoria city limits the QC radio and TV stations punch in.

IMO is it just me or does anyone else feel that, if the development of the Peoria and QC stations had gone differently, particularly if two of the QC V's (WHBF and WOC) had not signed on during 1949-50 but were delayed to post-freeze like Peoria, that there could have been a case for a combined Peoria-Quad Cities DMA (with one V per city then assign the third V to Galesburg and target both Peoria and QC with a similar quality signal to both areas). Similar to Champaign-Decatur-Springfield and Cedar Rapids-Waterloo nearby. (Although such a combined market might have put Bloomington/McLean County with Champaign's DMA--and Livingston County/Pontiac firmly with Chicago).
 
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