Markets without a fullpower PBS Station

[e-dawg]

I know Montana and Wyoming are one of the last states, that didn't have a full power PBS station until 2000's. So far I know these markets that don't have full power PBS stations, and have to rely on nearby cities on LPTV.

#122 Santa Barbara, SLO, and Santa Maria, Northern part of the DMA market uses KQED 9 San Francisco, and Southern part of the DMA uses KOCE 50 Hunington Beach/Los Angeles.
#126 Bakersfield - Uses KVPT from Fresno.
#166 Yuma, El Centro CA. Western DMA uses KPBS from San Diego, and Eastern part of DMA uses KAET 8 from Phoenix.
#145 Palm Springs - Uses KVCR from San Bernardino, and KOCE from Hunington Beach/LA.

Any others?

 

[dave73]

Rockford, IL has no PBS station of their own. Cable instead pipes in WHA from Madison Wisconsin & WTTW from Chicago. Depending on where someone is located in the Rockford market, it's possible to get one or both stations OTA. Fortunately, both stations are on the UHF in the digital era.

Lafayette Indiana is a 1 TV station market (WLFI, a CBS affiliate), & they rely on cable & satellite for their programming. On cable, they get WFYI Indianapolis & WTTW Chicago, along with the subchannels. I don't remember if they also get WTIU Bloomington & WIPB Muncie on cable. OTA, depending on where someone is located, it's possible to get WFYI from Indianapolis or WILL-TV from Champaign, IL OTA.

While Terre Haute, IN has 2 PBS stations licensed to their market, both signals only cover the southern part of the market, & both don't even Terre Haute. WTIU Bloomington covers more of the Terre Haute market than WVUT Vincennces, IN & WUSI Olney, IL do. There's stray coverage over Terre Haute. So I believe cable carries WUSI & WVUT, but not sure about WTIU, since it's licensed to the Indianapolis market.

 

[easttxtv]

No local PBS currently in Tyler/Longview. Most in the market are able to watch KERA/13 from DFW on cable or dish. In the last couple of years, KERA's owner tried to apply for a translator for Tyler. They asked for Ch. 25, but the local 3Angels station was able to move to Ch. 25 from a previous channel, effectively denying KERA's owner their request. There's been no news as to a re-application for another try at a translator channel for KERA in Tyler.

 

[Ultimajock]

#145 Palm Springs - Uses KVCR from San Bernardino, and KOCE from Hunington Beach/LA.

...as it's only about 50 miles from San Bernardino to Palm Springs, KVCR is rebroadcast on two lower-power signals in Palm Springs (KJHP-LP/18 and K09XW/9) and some regular KVCR-only program production actually originates from Palm Springs (Gloria Greer's interview programs, for example), I wouldn't say this actually qualifies as an example....

 

[PTBoardOp94]

Dave: I know the Time-Warner system in Terre Haute carries WTIU for its primary PBS. They also make WFYI Indianapolis and WEIU Olney available on premium tiers. WVUT is not on the system at all.

 

[recto101]

How about Monterey Ca, They have to borrow KQED and KQEH from San Francisco.

 

[w9wi]

How about Monterey Ca, They have to borrow KQED and KQEH from San Francisco.

Isn't Watsonville (KQEH) firmly within the Monterey market?

 

[KeithE4]

Rockford, IL has no PBS station of their own. Cable instead pipes in WHA from Madison Wisconsin & WTTW from Chicago. Depending on where someone is located in the Rockford market, it's possible to get one or both stations OTA. Fortunately, both stations are on the UHF in the digital era.

Lafayette Indiana is a 1 TV station market (WLFI, a CBS affiliate), & they rely on cable & satellite for their programming. On cable, they get WFYI Indianapolis & WTTW Chicago, along with the subchannels. I don't remember if they also get WTIU Bloomington & WIPB Muncie on cable. OTA, depending on where someone is located, it's possible to get WFYI from Indianapolis or WILL-TV from Champaign, IL OTA.

Lafayette had a non-comm channel allocation in the analog era (originally 47, then 24 when Indiana and Illinois allocations were moved around in the mid '60s), but for some reason Purdue University never put a station on the air. I don't know if that allocation was kept after the digital transition.

While Terre Haute, IN has 2 PBS stations licensed to their market, both signals only cover the southern part of the market, & both don't even Terre Haute. WTIU Bloomington covers more of the Terre Haute market than WVUT Vincennces, IN & WUSI Olney, IL do. There's stray coverage over Terre Haute. So I believe cable carries WUSI & WVUT, but not sure about WTIU, since it's licensed to the Indianapolis market.

Indiana State University had a CP for WISU-TV going back to the early '60s, first on 36, then 26 after the above-mentioned allocation swaps, but AFAIK it never went on the air. I don't know if Terre Haute still has a non-comm allocation.

 

[crainbebo]

Waco, TX has no PBS station anymore [KWBU was shut down in 2010 due to lack of funding]. KAMU in College Station and KERA Dallas/KUHT Houston are the distant PBS stations that are probably pulled in that area.

-crainbebo

 

[w9wi]

Lafayette had a non-comm channel allocation in the analog era (originally 47, then 24 when Indiana and Illinois allocations were moved around in the mid '60s), but for some reason Purdue University never put a station on the air. I don't know if that allocation was kept after the digital transition.

All unused allocations were deleted with the digital transition.

It looks as if the WISU-TV permit expired before transition, so that allocation is gone as well.

 

[KML0224]

Perhaps Utica, NY? They'd likely rely on WCNY-TV channel 24 from Syracuse. Also, I don't think Elmira, NY has their own PBS outlet, likely relying on WSKG-TV channel 46 from Binghamton.

 

[KeithE4]

All unused allocations were deleted with the digital transition.

It looks as if the WISU-TV permit expired before transition, so that allocation is gone as well.

IIRC, the CP for WISU-TV expired sometime in the early '70s. I lived about 50 miles from TH at the time, and I don't remember it ever going on the air even for testing.

 

[KTN Corp]

Waco, TX has no PBS station anymore [KWBU was shut down in 2010 due to lack of funding]. KAMU in College Station and KERA Dallas/KUHT Houston are the distant PBS stations that are probably pulled in that area.

-crainbebo

Waco still has KNCT, licensed to nearby Belton (near Temple). Maps show that it still has a strong signal in the city and the 60 dBu line is a little north of the city.

 

[fybush]

Perhaps Utica, NY? They'd likely rely on WCNY-TV channel 24 from Syracuse. Also, I don't think Elmira, NY has their own PBS outlet, likely relying on WSKG-TV channel 46 from Binghamton.

WSKG had a high-power Elmira translator, W30AA, which they sold off in the early 2000s after realizing that nearly the entire market was on cable. W30AA had a brief second act as WTTX-LP, an independent (and I think very briefly UPN?) run by NBC affiliate WETM 18...and then went away with the DTV transition when the programming moved to WETM's 18.2.

But in the meantime, WSKG had had a long-pending application for a full-power channel 30 signal in nearby Corning that was unexpected granted - and so they built it as what I think was the first DTV-only signal in the state. It's now WSKA, a full simulcast of WSKG.

As for Utica, it had a high-power WCNY translator, W59AU. That translator lasted past the DTV conversion, and went digital last year as W22DO-D.

More markets without their own PBS outlet: Lima, OH (gets fringe service from WBGU Bowling Green) and Zanesville, OH (served by WOUC-TV Cambridge, which is not technically in the market).

 

[azumanga]

No local PBS currently in Tyler/Longview. Most in the market are able to watch KERA/13 from DFW on cable or dish. In the last couple of years, KERA's owner tried to apply for a translator for Tyler. They asked for Ch. 25, but the local 3Angels station was able to move to Ch. 25 from a previous channel, effectively denying KERA's owner their request. There's been no news as to a re-application for another try at a translator channel for KERA in Tyler.

Along the same token, Wichita falls also has no full-power PBS outlet -- Wichita Falls has a KERA repeater, while Lawton has an OETA repeater.

Waco, TX has no PBS station anymore [KWBU was shut down in 2010 due to lack of funding]. KAMU in College Station and KERA Dallas/KUHT Houston are the distant PBS stations that are probably pulled in that area.

The market has one other "local" PBS station -- KNCT from Belton, which serves Temple and Killeen. Cable systems replaced KWBU with KNCT after KWBU ceased operations.

 

[sthompson98]

The Abilene and San Angelo television markets do not have a PBS affiliate. Suddenlink cable in Abilene and San Angelo pipes in KERA from Dallas. Most of the smaller cable systems in these two markets either pipe in KERA or KRMA from Denver.

 

[mjlarochelle]

Can we also say that some states that have statewide PBS networks contain markets that don't technically have their own PBS station, as they receive a PBS station from a neighboring market via a full-power repeater?

 

[crainbebo]

Perhaps Utica, NY? They'd likely rely on WCNY-TV channel 24 from Syracuse. Also, I don't think Elmira, NY has their own PBS outlet, likely relying on WSKG-TV channel 46 from Binghamton.

WSKG had a high-power Elmira translator, W30AA, which they sold off in the early 2000s after realizing that nearly the entire market was on cable. W30AA had a brief second act as WTTX-LP, an independent (and I think very briefly UPN?) run by NBC affiliate WETM 18...and then went away with the DTV transition when the programming moved to WETM's 18.2.

WTTX was UPN from Sep. 2004-it's closure in 2006. Then WSKG launched WSKA on 30, AND The CW went to the WB 100+ affiliate WBE, so it went off.

-crainbebo

 

[silverthree]

Laredo doesn't have a PBS affiliate. They don't have an ABC affiliate either.

 

[TexasTom]

No local PBS currently in Tyler/Longview.

Also in North Texas, no full power PBS in Wichita Falls/Lawton (KERA has or used to have a translator there) or in Sherman/Ada (although Oklahoma's state network is available via translator in much of the market).