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LOL- this place cracks me up. They've been on the air what, 6 weeks at most?
So ratings come out and they're not good and you people are suprised?
Am I the only one who expected them to have to lose the 1.5 (or so) that they had before they'd start picking up listeners from Mix, or Jack, or Edge or wherever?
Or did you really think the people who were there listening to Freebird and Lagrange are going to stick around for Death cab for cutie and Snow Patrol.
Like I said- LOL-
KDBN on air for a month getting crappy ratings, they get a FAIL.
KRLD-FM on air for 6 months getting crappy ratings: NOT FAIL.
BDH on 1360 not even showing up in most ratings, NOT FAIL.
So ratings come out and they're not good and you people are suprised?
Am I the only one who expected them to have to lose the 1.5 (or so) that they had before they'd start picking up listeners from Mix, or Jack, or Edge or wherever?
Or did you really think the people who were there listening to Freebird and Lagrange are going to stick around for Death cab for cutie and Snow Patrol.
Like I said- LOL-
KDBN on air for a month getting crappy ratings, they get a FAIL.
KRLD-FM on air for 6 months getting crappy ratings: NOT FAIL.
BDH on 1360 not even showing up in most ratings, NOT FAIL.
I'm with little1... Give them a chance. They have only been around since April 27th. Scott Gaines was added later and is doing a great job as is Alexis IMO. Plus I LOVE the music...
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: Marcy Playground - Sex And Candy
19.06.2009 12:19pm
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: Bob Marley & The Wailers - Is This Love?
19.06.2009 12:27pm
Buy from: iTunes | Amazon.com
: Coldplay - Life In Technicolor
19.06.2009 12:31pm
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: Elvis Costello & The Attractions - Pump It Up
19.06.2009 12:35pm
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: Big Head Todd & The Monsters - Bittersweet
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I don't, but I get that I may not be their target market.jeffdfw said:
And I think Cumulus had a choice, continue going up against KZPS (and losing) or go a different route.
And has anybody noticed that their route is much friendlier to the front end of the 25-54 demo? KLUV, KZPS, etc are all having problems in that their audience is aging out of that 45-54 cell. If KDBN can make a halfway decent showing in 25-34 or 35-44, they'll be better positioned for the next few years than other stations...
C
charles123
Guest
jeffdfw said:
If they can just get rid of The Regular Guys, that would be even better. Their show sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looking at the 12+ numbers from the past 8 years (for fun, because we all know you can't sell 12+, yada yada yada...)
KDBN just had the lowest rating (by 0.1) for 93.3 in those 8 years.
Meanwhile, KDMX, KZPS and KJKK had their highest in those eight years for their frequencies.
KRNB tied their highest rating for the 8 year period.
Now that PPM is somewhat mature, it is unsual to have three major stations hit new highs for that period length.
If the Regular Guys are the metaphorical anchor to 93.3's slow start, then a simple & popular solution (for this board anyway) would be other morning programming.
KDBN just had the lowest rating (by 0.1) for 93.3 in those 8 years.
Meanwhile, KDMX, KZPS and KJKK had their highest in those eight years for their frequencies.
KRNB tied their highest rating for the 8 year period.
Now that PPM is somewhat mature, it is unsual to have three major stations hit new highs for that period length.
If the Regular Guys are the metaphorical anchor to 93.3's slow start, then a simple & popular solution (for this board anyway) would be other morning programming.
MacOConnor said:
LOL- Gee, let's see, a station that catered to 40 and 50 year old rock fans changes its format and 2 other stations that cater to 40 and 50 year old rock fans (KZPS and Jack) see a boost. Who thought that would have happened? :
And I bet KDBN is going through what every other station that changes its format goes through. Their shedding old listeners left and right. And even shedding listeners, they only did .1 worse than their previous low? And that's charecterized as a slow start? LOL...
Let's C&P from Domingo's post...
Their "slow start" already has them within striking distance of KESS, KLIF (which has sucked for years) The Fan (which has been on for 6-7 months), and Platinum (on for a year +?).
Like I said, I don't like the music, but some of you people either don't understand radio basics or are completely clueless. Slow start? Look at Platinum at #31 or Fan at 28...
johnqdoe said:
Just a clarification... "May" is a book. There are no trends in the PPM.
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DownYonder
Guest
It would be great to see those 25-54 numbers if anyone has them handy. AM and PM drives too.
I'm not saying The Fan is a success...I could care less about BDH too...It just seems like a totally idiotic move for Cumulus. You get an "AAA-lite" station anchored by an out of market morning show that tuerns off half your audience. The midday gal is still reading liners and not really tlaking about the music at all. The PM Drive guy is gaining some traction...You have the "Quality Rock" moniker, but no real music talk at all from what I've heard. I'm not saying go into Rover or Redbeard territory here, but SOMETHING would be nice. And to top it alll off, Cumulus is running no TV or billboards form what I can see. They mention "The Regular Guys" in most every break...but I don't hear any audio of them. Wouldn't it make sense, ESPECIALLY for a new show, to recycle some snippits thruout the day instead of just having the jocks and Voice Guy say the name of the show?
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