Now a Christian station where I live does run "Real McCoys", with the RTV logo and a mention of their .2 channel. Last night's episode was a good example of how that show has Christian values.
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Me-TV Winter Schedule has Bewitched, Jeannie
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To me Bewitched and Jeannie have been run to death. It seems like they have been all the dial since they went into syndication. Of the two, I do prefer Bewitched. At least it made a statement with it's mixed marriage and acceptance of different ideas. It was more satirical. Geez, just about everybody in the cast was gay. Funny I never noticed it about Uncle Arthur til years later. I just thought Paul Lynde was funny. Not that there is anything wrong with that!
Jeannie was just silly, although she is beautiful.
Jeannie was just silly, although she is beautiful.
I still haven't seen one episode of "Jeannie" because it got deleted from the TiVo right in the middle of my watching it.therealjm12 said:
WGN America refused to show black and white episodes. I saw some on "Screen Gems Network" over ten years ago.
So I welcome any opportunity, although without spending money on a better antenna, I can't take advantage of this one.
vchimpanzee said:
Bewitched has B&W in DVD. Atleast Season 1. I'm not sure about Jeannie but I think so too. Both series can be viewed on DVD.
https://dvd.netflix.com/
or some of the sets are available on ebay, amazon and other stores at discounted prices.
therealjm12 said:
No kidding. I'm surprised that a thread on these two shows can invoke so much interest. For me, the problem with all these retro networks is that they tend to run the same dozen sitcoms over-and-over-and-over, ad nauseum. I get it - people like "the hits" - so that's what these networks give them, and complaining about it is like complaining about hit-music radio - a useless exercise.
Still, for me at least - I'm much more likely to tune in Me-TV, Cozi, or whatever - when they're running something that hasn't been run to death.
It seems like Bewitched and Jeannie are run together on whatever channel they happen to be on. Are they always sold together as a package now?
therealjm12 said:
When you think about it..."Bewitched" was actually light years ahead of its time. In an era when it was much more difficult to express "different" ideas on TV....let alone on sit-coms!
"Bewitched" managed to skillfully use fantasy and witchcraft as a means to explore isuues like mixed marriages, acceptance (or non acceptance) of ethnic minorities and gay folk....and race relations. What other show of the time could have possibly broached such topics....and get away with it?
Remember...we're talking about the PRE Norman Lear era.
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I like the new sked. MTM followed by the Bob Newhart Show is the perfect combo. I believe this is how CBS lined them up for many years. Or atleast a half hour apart. The Odd Couple is hit or miss, but mostly hit. I like the late Klugman, but Randall was the real star of that show, IMO. The Dick Van Dyke Show will last forever, every episode is classic. ME-TV needs to stay true to the best of the best, and they will do well.
Dighton Rockhead said:
I think you may be looking at Bewitched through a modern lens. I'm not sure you can equate a "mixed-mariage" between a fantasy witch and a regular white guy as a metaphor for any kind of real-life mixed marriage. As for gays - are you saying that because Paul Lynde and Dick Sargent were gay? Like practically all gay actors in those days, they were not "out" in any way. It was not until a decade later that Lynde would poke fun at his own sexual orientation on Hollywood Squares. And it was not revealed that the second Darrin was gay until many years later. That would be like saying The Brady Bunch explored the gay issue because Robert Reed was non-publicly gay. Yes - Florence Henderson knew, but not the general public.
That was an era when may people were in denial about homosexuality, even when performers were rather blatant about it. My grandmother loved Liberace, but took great offense if you said he was gay. As long as those performers did not "out" themselves (Don't Ask - Don't Tell, basically) - they were safe.
I was too young too understand the under current messages of Bewitched when it originally aired. Years later I had a conversation with my mother and asked her about her impression of the show. She was a big fan. I asked if she knew Uncle Arthur was gay and Endora was a man hating lesbian. She gave me a dah, answer. "Of course they were gay. Everybody knew it at the time. It wasn't really talked about but everyone knew it." She loved the show.
It has been documented many times, in interviews and statements made by Elizabeth Montgomery and her then husband, William Asher that the show did have a social conscience. The first couple seasons, especially the B & W episodes, were very sophisticated for the time. Later on it just became silly AKA Jeannie.
It has been documented many times, in interviews and statements made by Elizabeth Montgomery and her then husband, William Asher that the show did have a social conscience. The first couple seasons, especially the B & W episodes, were very sophisticated for the time. Later on it just became silly AKA Jeannie.
I saw what was Montgomery's favorite episode on "Screen Gems Network", an hour-long show that pretended to be a cable channel. Tabitha had a black friend she called her sister, and this got some racists upset. Samantha taught them a lesson.therealjm12 said:
And this was not one of the early episodes.
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searadiofreak said:
I once read an article on classic sit-coms that attributed The Dick Van Dyke Show's endurance to its writers purposely avoiding anything topical at the time. That could be a reason why it holds up so well—which is saying a lot for a black & white show from 50 years ago.
If I recall, didn't one of the networks such as Nickelodeon try bringing back Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In in the '90s which didn't go over very well because so much of its humor—which was very topical—went right over peoples' heads?
Yeah, I think Nick @ Nite ran it (Laugh In) for a while in a half hour version. Later Trio ran the full hours. It did not hold up well because of its timeliness. I guess you had to be there to appreciate it. It was fun to watch just for the historical significance if nothing else.
I've lost track of TV Land since they added all the extra commercials, so I don't know if 'AITF' still runs on that channel. It's lasted in reruns as long as it has simply because so many people grew up with it(even when they weren't allowed to watch it when they were kids!)
After the first few seasons, Watergate, and the end of the Vietnam war, the show wasn't quite as 'topical', and the ratings slipped as it became more of a 'living in the '70s' comedy. The show manged to stay number 1 in the ratings until 1976, when CBS moved it away from Saturdays. However, the consensus is the quality of the show show was slipping as early as season 5(the first post-Nixon season).
After the first few seasons, Watergate, and the end of the Vietnam war, the show wasn't quite as 'topical', and the ratings slipped as it became more of a 'living in the '70s' comedy. The show manged to stay number 1 in the ratings until 1976, when CBS moved it away from Saturdays. However, the consensus is the quality of the show show was slipping as early as season 5(the first post-Nixon season).
carolinaradio said:
TVLand carries Dick Van Dyke, however Me-TV is the only network to air Bob Newhart, Beverly Hillbillies, Petticoat Junction, and My Three Sons.
I wish they would air Trapper John instead of MASH. I am sick of MASH.
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therealjm12 said:
It's been a number of years since I've seen these, so I've been catching them periodically now that they're on Me-TV. It's funny how some shows hold up over time and some just don't, but that could be a matter of opinion. I really liked Bewitched and Jeannie as a kid; in fact, I remember having a major crush on Barbara Eden—what boy didn't? But I definitely agree with the above. I still find Bewitched funny today. Some of the funniest scenes literally have me laughing out loud—the ones with the Kravitzes who live next door. Alice Pearce and George Tobias were great. Abner and Gladys have to rank as one of my top 3 sidekicks—right up there with Fred and Ethel and Buddy and Sally.
Jeannie, on the other hand... not so much so. As the poster above said, it's just silly. I can still see Barbara Eden being every schoolboy's fantasy—and grown men, too, for that matter—but the show itself wears a little thin. In retrospect, I wonder how it was able to go on for 5 years with a rather similar plot week after week. Actually, I wonder what kind of audience they were going after back then. There's quite a bit of slapstick obviously aimed at kids, but to have a beautiful woman coming onto and throwing herself at a single man—not to mention wanting to grant his every wish—clearly delves into adult territory. Oh well, just as the above poster never read anything into Uncle Arthur's character, maybe kids in the late '60s likewise paid no attention to Jeannie's romantic advances.
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