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Memorable format changes

CleveRadioInsider said:
Wasn't there a young PD at 92.3 named JJ Quest at some point that the town was trumpeting as the next John Gorman? He was going to turn 92.3 into a ratings powerhouse LOL. Yeah he was there for about 2 cups of coffee if that.

JJ Quest I think was a jock at WMMS for awhile when they went more alternative around '94 or so. Moved to Richmond, VA as a 25 year old and started up the 104.7 the Buzz in August 1995 as PD, which was known for killing the lighter alt. rock station in town WVGO.

Make a long story short, AM FM bought the frequency and flipped the format to Oldies in late 1998. Buzz never cleaned up against the heritage AOR in the ratings until its last book but had a very slick presentation, excellent music, and had several young jocks who went to big markets like Boston and DC.

Wonder where he went to?

Radio-X
 
74WIXYGrad said:
I now wonder anybody can remember any great backlash from a format change?

Back when WMMS became a CHR in the 80s, many listeners were wondering "what was going on?".

After all this station ( WMMS ), was born in the underground of counter culture and seeped in the anti-establishment rhetoric of the late 60s/early 70s, Suddenly it became a trumpet for the, at the time, current MTV mainstream sugar coated pop music . That move was the polar opposite of what constituted its appeal in the 70s.

The only " backlash" you mention in reality is on discussion forums like this one. Listeners don't care. Radio in not important anymore. Buy an iPod at Best Buy and load it up with your favorites is the world we live in now. Who needs some payola taking disc jockey to tell you what is " hot" and what you should listen to?

Radio is not dead, but radio's importance in the lives of listeners is falling way below kitchen appliance toaster level importance.

Listeners look for stations playing the music they like, ( see success of The Lake ) or specifically, their favorite songs. When WMMS flipped format and started reporting CHR in the 80s, the rock listeners who "grew up" with the station liked the rock music and were shocked when it was replaced by disposable pop. When rock was replaced in heavy rotations by pop artists, the core audience went elsewhere.

When WMMS became a CHR and Michael Jackson, Wham, Madonna, etc became the core artists, a line was drawn in the mind of the consumer.

At that point in time the MTV-CHR pop artsts were getting major exposure on a new medium and selling a whole lot more product than the previous FM radio staples like Bad Company, Led Zepplelin, or the Who. Then that trend changed. Inevitably the CHR product got STALE, as it does in its cycle of popularity.

WMMS flipped back to rock, and left the CHR game.

So as far as format flips go, WMMS had several over the past decades. Let's trace. AOR to CHR 80s ) , CHR to AOR ( late 80s ) , AOR to Alternative ( mid 90s ) , Alternative to AOR ( mid 90s ) , then AOR to Talk ( most recent ). WMMS is no longer a music station.
That 100.7 signal has more format changes (5) than any other signal on FM in Cleveland.

And no one threw themselvles off the I-480 brigde the formats flipped. ;D

News, sports talk, country, AC , and black targeted formats are the most stable.
 
Capulet, sorry to disappoint. WMMS never flipped to CHR. Having worked there 94-00 (as well as at WMJI and Mix) I'm fairly versed in the stations history. MMS changed it's reporting status to Billboard (and other trades) to get product for giveaways to one up G98. It did add Beat It, Billie Jean and some other pop titles. But was still a rock station. It's morphed over the years from one rock format to another but still a rock station. Even now with the talk blocks it's still a rock station middays, nights and weekends.
 
radiodxrichmond said:
CleveRadioInsider said:
Wasn't there a young PD at 92.3 named JJ Quest at some point that the town was trumpeting as the next John Gorman? He was going to turn 92.3 into a ratings powerhouse LOL. Yeah he was there for about 2 cups of coffee if that.

JJ Quest I think was a jock at WMMS for awhile when they went more alternative around '94 or so. Moved to Richmond, VA as a 25 year old and started up the 104.7 the Buzz in August 1995 as PD, which was known for killing the lighter alt. rock station in town WVGO.

Make a long story short, AM FM bought the frequency and flipped the format to Oldies in late 1998. Buzz never cleaned up against the heritage AOR in the ratings until its last book but had a very slick presentation, excellent music, and had several young jocks who went to big markets like Boston and DC.

Wonder where he went to?

Radio-X

For the life of me I cannot remember anyone ever on WMMS named JJ Quest, specifically during the NextGen days. I seem to remember their line-up for the entire time of the NextGen days as being Brian and Joe, then Lou Santini, Spaceman Scott in afternoon drive, Jen Wilde, and then BLF Bash doing overnights. Damn it was a long time ago, anyone remember when Quest was on there?
 
No JJ Quest on WMMS to my recollection. If he was he's not memorable. Then again that was the Luczak era, yes? One we all would like to forget.

Lou and Jen brought up from WRQK by Gorman. Both fantastic personalities. Lou in LA doing standup and Jen doing mornings for a Cox AC in S. FL
 
VODood said:
Capulet, sorry to disappoint. WMMS never flipped to CHR. Having worked there 94-00 (as well as at WMJI and Mix) I'm fairly versed in the stations history. MMS changed it's reporting status to Billboard (and other trades) to get product for giveaways to one up G98. It did add Beat It, Billie Jean and some other pop titles. But was still a rock station. It's morphed over the years from one rock format to another but still a rock station. Even now with the talk blocks it's still a rock station middays, nights and weekends.

There's a difference between how you promote yourselves to Joe Sixpack radio listener, and how you present yourself to Billboard. WMMS to the public has always been a rock station, and Joe Sixpack in 1984 was wondering "Why is Micheal Jackson/Madonna on a rock station?". Average radio listener guy has/had no idea about how a station promotes itself to Billboard.

These days it would be a bit misleading to call 100.7 a "rock station"...it's a hybrid rock/talk/sports station that can best be described as "man-cave radio".

Now WNCX is a rock station, because that's all they do.
 
Another short-lived morning co-host on Jammin' 92.3 was Rosemary Vinci. She was gone after a month. Her replacement was Johnny D before he left too.

Rosemary actually went by Madam LaRue when she at Jammin' earlier. I think she was fired after the station did a stunt related to the 1992 Olympics.
 
VODood said:
No JJ Quest on WMMS to my recollection. If he was he's not memorable. Then again that was the Luczak era, yes? One we all would like to forget.

I'll have to see if I can get the article I cut out of the Richmond Times-Dispatch from way back when. The article touted him as coming from WMMS, which had flipped to alternative in 1994, and was a "great success". Wouldn't be terribly surprised if he went by a different name or possibly was a promotions/board op/weekender. This was before the internet took off, remember, and many folks (myself included!) "enhanced" their experience on a resume to get a better gig than board op'ing the public service program on Sunday and unloading the station van. With the right set of pipes you were golden!

Actually, WMMS was apparently held in high regard by the entire staff/management. The GM/owner, Kenneth Brown of ABS Broadcasting, claimed he was following the footsteps of WMMS/Cleveland, WNNX/Atlanta, and WDRE/Philly

Radio-X
 
Another memorable format switch. WNOB-FM flips from 24 hours of beautiful music. New format Beautiful music 6am-6pm. ABC's underground Love format 6pm-6am with Brother John.
 
How about that format switch on WKRP? Didn't they go from beautiful music to Rock? ;D. Dr. Johnny Fever was a good addition as well. They were big time after that. :p
 
CleveRadioInsider said:
How about that format switch on WKRP? Didn't they go from beautiful music to Rock? ;D. Dr. Johnny Fever was a good addition as well. They were big time after that. :p
As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly ???
 
CleveRadioInsider said:
How about that format switch on WKRP? Didn't they go from beautiful music to Rock? ;D. Dr. Johnny Fever was a good addition as well. They were big time after that. :p
However on the 1st Show they were 50kw on the Station Coverage Map. A Few shows later they were down to 5KW.
 
CleveRadioInsider said:
How about that format switch on WKRP? Didn't they go from beautiful music to Rock? ;D. Dr. Johnny Fever was a good addition as well. They were big time after that. :p

Jennifer Marlowe really needed an air shift.
 
WMJI has a talk show in AM drive, carried the Browns for a few years but was still an oldies station.

WMMS today has talk in am and pm drive but music the ray if the time and carries the Browns. A talk/sports/ rock hybrid? The imaging says otherwise. I believe it's positioned as " Clevelands Rock Station" by the owners. Perception to most listeners, not forum writers, is that it's a rock station with talk show blocks. The sports broadcasts are inconsequential.
 
How about when WQAL went from Easy Listening to a WDOK-type Soft Favorites clone as "Soft Hits 104," but didn't last long and flipped to Hot AC as "The New Q104."

I read in Larry Morrow's book that John Lanigan mentioned on his show that when WQAL was going the "Soft Hits" route, Lanigan said he can picture Kim Scott in the format, but not Morrow. The station netted nice ratings, but planned billboards to go up were later scrapped.
 
WMMS gets the "rock/talk" tag from me when I post about it.

The station is at its heart a rock station, and always has been, and even the talk blocks are aimed at that same audience.

Just the same, I can't ignore 10 hours of drive-time talk programming and just call it "rock".
 
My wife flipped formats a few years. It was tough for me at first, but I learned to like Helga. She's actually quite nice, if not a bit too rugged with the children.
 
Cool aircheck, King Kirby sounded a little flustered at the begining..I remember the jingles. Yupe 10th grade at Solon High when this came down!
 
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