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Joe.....They are so out of it, that sometimes they do the station I.D. at :57 past the hour and sometimes at :03. They are all over the place. They're not like KQED which hits the the post exactly at :00. No one hits the post like NPR. They are perfect, which is to their credit.
Even KBAY with Bobby Bones in the morning does I.D. at :59 or :01. But not Audacy. They don't care. ( Grumble, grumble). LOL.
Legal IDs, like everything nowadays, are handled by automation systems, and it depends on how the automation logs are set up. You can set up logs to have the legal ID be the first thing on the hour with synchronization rules to ensure that it is as close to the hour as possible, straight up force them to play at the top of the hour (common at news/talk stations), or you can just shove it somewhere before the end of the hour around :55 and not make a big deal out of the top of the hour, like a number of iHeart stations do.

As long as the legal ID hits somewhere between plus or minus 5 minutes (what I had always been told at least) from the top of the hour, legally, it is fine. The only people listening for the legal ID are radio nerds, and the majority of people do not care or understand anything about the legal ID rules, so operators do it and don't think twice about it.
 
I actually wanted to hear ad's from broadcast stations on the net, but when they get to commercial breaks, I get local ads near where I live, instead of the ads that are being broadcast in their area, as far as I.Ds I would like to hear them, nice to know if the stations I listen to are in New Jersey or New Mexico or wherever else they come from.
 
Kind of like WKTU Lake Success- New York. No one can understand the Lake Success-part.

I remember them doing that as WTFM 103.5 in Lake Success (boy am I old) they were a "beautiful music" station then, and when I heard Lake Success, I thought that it was a scenic lake somewhere upstate, lo and behold it's part of New York City (Queens) why did the FCC grant them that designation instead on NYC (beats me)

One more oddity about WKTU, they were originally at 92.3 and they I.D. New York City, they moved to 103.5, took that frequency and I guess they had to keep the Lake Success moniker (who knows?)
Just want to try to clear up this confusion, and apologies in advance for this long ramble on the L.A. board about some NYC history.

WTFM, back in the 50's, was WGLI-FM/103.5, co-owned with WGLI and allocated to one of the communities in western Suffolk County on Long Island. (Maybe Babylon, or Huntington, can't remember at this moment.) The owner of a chain of appliance stores, Friendly Frost, bought the FM station and wanted to relocate it closer to New York City. But unlike with AM's, an FM frequency first has to be allocated by the FCC to a "community of license" (COL) before it can be licensed there.

New York City itself already had its maximum number of allocations, so Friendly Frost did a search to find a COL closer to the city that didn't already have any allocations, since it was easier to get approval for a COL without any previous allocations. And they found the Village of Lake Success in northwestern Nassau County, just outside Queens, and petitioned the FCC to change WGLI-FM's allocation to there. Once approved, the actual, physical station was relocated to Fresh Meadows section of Queens, adjacent to the infamous Long Island Expressway. The station was co-located into a building with a restaurant (names, of all things, the Broadcasters Inn), and a tower was constructed adjacent to the station. The calls were rebranded WTFM, and it ran a Beautiful Music format. (Which, to my knowledge, was programmed in house, not using Schulke, which already was airing on WPAT, or Bonneville, which was on WRFM.)

Eventually their license was modified for a directional antenna, and they relocated the transmitter to the Chrysler Building in Manhattan, shooting the bulk of their signal east towards Queens, the Bronx, Nassau, southern Westchester and the southwest corner of Connecticut. (This was to avoid interfering with a handful of co-located and adjacent frequency stations in New Jersey.)

In the early 80's, Friendly Frost sold WTFM to Doubleday Broadcasting, which tried a rock format which didn't gain traction against WNEW-FM. They tried something else (CHR?), which also wasn't successful against Z-100 and WPLJ. Eventually they threw in the towel and sold out to a company (Chancellor?) that got merged, and merged again, until it was owned by the entity Clear Channel, which became iHeart a decade or so back.

Also in the 70's, WHOM-FM/92.3 (owned by San Juan Racing Company in Puerto Rico and totally separate from the above) changed their calls to WKTU. They initially tried a "mellow rock" format, which got modest ratings. After a couple of years, someone had the idea to try an all-disco format, which caught fire big time. It was the all-disco format that knocked WABC off its perch (#1 to #11 in one book) and sent them into a panic. (Less well remembered, it also did damage to WBLS, also a top station in that era.) But despite the damage it did to WABC, the disco craze faded, and eventually (my code word for "I don't recall the exact chronology") WKTU was purchased by Mel Karmazin's new Infinity Broadcasting, which launched a rock format (changing the calls to WXRK, "K-Rock", and eventually hiring Howard Stern after he was fired by WNBC). Infinity eventually got merged into Westinghouse Broadcasting, which also eventually acquired the CBS Corporation, which combined all their radio stations under the "Infinity" umbrella. That is the station that, after changes upon changes, recently became the FM simulcast for 1010 WINS.

In the meantime, we jump to the mid 1990's. 103.5's been through format-of-the-year hell for a decade, and management decides to try a rhythmic/dance-intensive format, and grabs the WKTU call letters, which were unassigned at that time. It launches, and has a fair amount of success. To this day, 103.5 remains WKTU, even though the musical focus - perhaps the whole format - has evolved over the intervening years. So, if you've followed along this far, the takeaway from this long essay is that the 1970's/80's WKTU on 92.3 is a completely different, unrelated animal from the 1990's-2000's WKTU on 103.5.

This will be covered in the midterm exam next week. :eek:
 
No apologies necessary (at least for me) that's why we're on this site, and I grew up on NY radio (here in Connecticut) keep it up.
 
One more oddity about WKTU, they were originally at 92.3 and they I.D. New York City, they moved to 103.5, took that frequency and I guess they had to keep the Lake Success moniker (who knows?)
That's not how it happened. The original WKTU became AOR station WXRK in 1985. In 1996, WYNY, which had a different owner from WXRK, transformed from a country station to the current incarnation of WKTU.
 
That's not how it happened. The original WKTU became AOR station WXRK in 1985. In 1996, WYNY, which had a different owner from WXRK, transformed from a country station to the current incarnation of WKTU.
I really liked WYNY in the mid 70s when they were "The Rockpile" and they had Saturday with Sinatra on Saturday nights with Sid Marks in glorious stereo, then they went country (I think) and dropped the Sinatra, which went to 710 WOR, just wasn't the same in muddy AM mono.
 
Happy holidays to all. I was very disappointed in both Xmas stations kost and 105.1 Christmas music. Now mind you I would rather have them then nothing but it seems kost had a more tight Christmas playlist this year.

In years past I have heard bare naked ladies Christmas tune regularly and christmas wrapping by the waitresses regularly but this year I hardly heard them on kost. And on 105.1 a country station it seems they played less country Christmas music. When krth played Gary Bryant syndicated show Christmas night and played the top Christmas tunes the number one was we wish you a Merry Christmas by Weezer. Wow
 
I did tune into 105.1 L.A. Country for country Christmas tunes, I was extremely disappointed when they were playing standard pop tunes, so I did channel 55 Sirius and I- heart Country Christmas.
 
Honestly, who cares what Christmas music K-Earth or any stations play anymore. It's a lost cause, they will never, ever please us. If they had their way, they'd play that Mariah song 10 times a day or unconventional songs like "This Christmas" by some obscure 1990's singer. The best lineup of Christmas music or any music for that matter, is your own constructed playlist which you have 100% control over. I rarely, if ever listen to the radio for Christmas music anymore. The repetition is sky high and so many commercial breaks, to make one gag.

Personally, I have created a playlist of 130 selected Christmas songs which we've enjoyed year after year since 2017.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 2023.
 
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Happy holidays to all. I was very disappointed in both Christmas stations kost and 105.1 Christmas music. Now mind you I would rather have them then nothing but it seems kost had a more tight Christmas playlist this year.

In years past I have heard bare naked ladies Christmas tune regularly and christmas wrapping by the waitresses regularly but this year I hardly heard them on kost. And on 105.1 a country station it seems they played less country Christmas music. When krth played Gary Bryant syndicated show Christmas night and played the top Christmas tunes the number one was we wish you a Merry Christmas by Weezer. Wow
Skip the radio, make your own playlist of Christmas tunes. You'll be happy with them, guaranteed.
 
Skip the radio, make your own playlist of Christmas tunes. You'll be happy with them, guaranteed.
Well Oldies 76, I don't have a reel to reel like I see there, but I have about 300 Christmas CDs including all 7 CBS-FM volumes, 25 songs per disc and masterfully engineered. I have an MP3 player with my homemade work, but I like to see what radio has to offer, and the winner this year (at least my choice) is JOLLY from Sirius, they used to only stream it, but this year placed in on Channel 14 of their satellite service which was great, so I could get it in my car.
 
Well Oldies 76, I don't have a reel to reel like I see there, but I have about 300 Christmas CDs including all 7 CBS-FM volumes, 25 songs per disc and masterfully engineered.
Yeah, that's my Dad's Akai from 1970 which I still have today. Works good. That CBS-Fm collection sounds like a winner.
 
Yeah, that's my Dad's Akai from 1970 which I still have today. Works good. That CBS-FM collection sounds like a winner.
Reel to Reel was great in those days 7+1/2" per second, great sound, I had a Radio Shack reel 3+3/4" per second, did the job but didn't sound like an Akai or a Teac 4 sure.
 
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