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Re: WHY Aruba is bad journalism

> The only real criteria is "is it attracting viewership"?
> Obviously, rightly or wrongly, it is.
>

I agree fully.

While I know many posters believe that the media is liberally biased, it's profitable train wreck coverage like this that convinces me the bigger problem is corporate bias, where the ratings and revenue play a huge part in what does/doesn't get coverage. Gone are the days where broadcasted or published news was part of the public good--it's gotta make money too. <P ID="signature">______________
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Re: WHY Aruba is bad journalism

> > The only real criteria is "is it attracting viewership"?
> > Obviously, rightly or wrongly, it is.
> >
>
> I agree fully.
>
> While I know many posters believe that the media is
> liberally biased, it's profitable train wreck coverage like
> this that convinces me the bigger problem is corporate bias,
> where the ratings and revenue play a huge part in what
> does/doesn't get coverage. Gone are the days where
> broadcasted or published news was part of the public
> good--it's gotta make money too.


The Aruba news charade doesn't even qualify as "journalism," rather it's just bad theater. Fox has advanced the shame factor to another level by sticking a camera in front of Natalee's mother following the release of two more suspects in the case. She's a grieving mother, doing what parents do when their kids are victimized. But for Fox to turn it into another play for notoriety is inexcusable. Fox and others are quite plainly trying to set themselves up as players in the investigation, attempting to convince those weak minded enough to believe it that IF the case is solved it will only be so because Fox "stayed on the story" and because "Greta owns the story." Spare us, please.

Natalee's mother is on camera pleading with the world to save her daughter. Logic and reason dictate that there's nothing "the world" can do to right an already botched and mishandled investigation. But Fox disregards logic and reason in favor of the high drama captured with a Fox camera floating under a distraught mother's nose.

Hannity and Colmes and their cadre of instant experts then pontificate with phrases such as, "What we need to remember is..." at which time all on the panel talk at once and nobody says anything comprehensible. Then comes a Fox newsbreak prattling on about "the investigation in Aruba continues." And we're expected to believe that Fox is telling us anything of value.

Next up will be Greta, as she always does does, phrasing everything she utters in the form of a question, a la, "Is something going on in Aruba? Can our Fox panel of experts shed any light on it? More coming up in a minute." The platitudes and hype never stop, and neither will Fox as long as it can use Aruba to sell people on the idea that Greta and Geraldo will ultimately be responsible for the case being solved, if indeed it ever is. If and when that does occur, watch the Fox spin doctors prattle on with claims that Fox's dogged determination led to the successful wrapup of the case.

To restate from posts by many others, this is the situation that results when people incapable of doing so try to fill 24 hours with "news," except that what's coming out of Aruba isn't news. It's a series of cheap shot attempts at manufacturing pseudo news where none actually exists--until there's an event to really advance the story and give it substance. Then maybe the news hawks will tell us all about it, if doing so doesn't interfere with Greta, Geralds, and whoever holding forth over margaritas at the beach club.

Fox pulled the same routine during the equally tragic OJ case, inviting Fred Goldman every day to deliver an on-camera tirade about the wrong that had been done. Goldman also was a grieving parent, but as with Natalee's mother, it does get a bit old seeing Fox use these people as a shill to hype Fox News. What they're actually saying isn't a concern for Fox. Instead it's the fact that it is all being said on Fox.
 
Re: WHY Aruba is bad journalism

> > I would not just limit it to Alabama; there is a strong
> > cultural bond among all southern states. Maybe
> northerners,
> > left-coasters or emigres in the south don't feel as close
> to
> > the story. In a broader sense, it is a "red-state story".
>
>
> I think that's a stretch, even looking at it from a regional
> standpoint rather than a national one. How much are native
> Tenneseeans or Mississippians affected by this story--or
> even care?

That is something of a stretch but I see your point here. I'm in Ohio and if this happens to a girl from Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, etc., I think I'm more likely to follow that case than if she's from the West, Pennsylvania or New England. To say it's a red-state thing is definitely a stretch, but the regional tie I can understand.
 
> OK, I definitely think I'm dreaming this week, but after a
> spring of having the news canceled on the 24/7 cable
> channels because of:
>
> - Terry Schiavo
> - CNN breaking an arm patting itself on the back for 25
> years and dropping news
> - Runaway Bride
> - Michael Jackson
> - Crime Week/Special Report Documentary Repackages/CSI:
> Rehash

The so called 24 hour news channels are not news any more.
As Ted Turner aptly put it CNN has become the pervert of the week.

Now I ask you, if an African-American honour student from the Bronx or Harlem went missing in Aruba would it be such a big story? Methinks not.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: WHY Aruba is bad journalism

I must agree that the Aruba thing has LONG outlived it's newsworthiness. But, aren't there many other things going on in the world to report on? Here are a few ideas:

- The "hostage taker" radical who is the new president of Iran. Here's a country on the threshold of having nukes, one that's a documented hiding place for terrorists. And, it has a new (and even more extreme) president. Yes, its been in the news a bit - but apparently is less than 1/20th as important as a blonde from Alabama.

- The G8 summit. Again, its in the news - but is seemingly not deserving of the insight that the Aruba case gets.

- The continuing concerns about oil suppiles and prices. That seems important, though apparently it is only a side story.

- The scorched earth policies of the president of Zimbabwe and the people who have been killed/displaced by them. Too bad they're not from an affluent suburb of Birmingham.

and, within 20 miles of Greta's seaside hotel suite in Aruba...

- The wild eyed president of Venezuela (Hugo Chavez) who is using all of that oil money to subsidize the nuke programs in places like North Korea and Iran. Who is forging new alliances among "rogue" states and is now almost single-handedly propping up Cuba. At the moment, he has latched on to the issue of a terrorist (who allegedly blew up a Cubana airliner during the 80's) who is here in the US (Texas, I believe). They claim we're harboring a terrorist, and they may even be right. The issue is being used by Chavez and Castro to make the US government look bad - and its working. A big story in Latin America, but not important here, I guess. Had a wealthy blonde american high schooler been on the jetliner, perhaps we'd pay attention.

By the way, we hear NOTHING about Chavez - who is quite dangerous. Trust me, I travel there now and then. This government has oil money (ours - they actually OWN Citgo) and is buying lots of Chinese and Russian arms with it. And, he's in our own backyard.

IF you can watch BBC News, you get to see coverage (albeit left leaning) about these stories. CNN International also hits on these issues. But, Fox, MSNBC, CNN, etc. are all fiddling while Rome burns. The "big 3" are no better in their respective coverage of the nightly news. Reminds me of news coverage on September 9, 2001.

THAT'S why Aruba is bad journalism. We deserve better!
 
Re: WHY Aruba is bad journalism

> I must agree that the Aruba thing has LONG outlived it's
> newsworthiness. But, aren't there many other things going
> on in the world to report on? Here are a few ideas:
>
> - The "hostage taker" radical who is the new president of
> Iran. Here's a country on the threshold of having nukes,
> one that's a documented hiding place for terrorists. And,
> it has a new (and even more extreme) president. Yes, its
> been in the news a bit - but apparently is less than 1/20th
> as important as a blonde from Alabama.
>
> - The G8 summit. Again, its in the news - but is seemingly
> not deserving of the insight that the Aruba case gets.
>
> - The continuing concerns about oil suppiles and prices.
> That seems important, though apparently it is only a side
> story.
>
> - The scorched earth policies of the president of Zimbabwe
> and the people who have been killed/displaced by them. Too
> bad they're not from an affluent suburb of Birmingham.
>
> and, within 20 miles of Greta's seaside hotel suite in
> Aruba...
>
> - The wild eyed president of Venezuela (Hugo Chavez) who is
> using all of that oil money to subsidize the nuke programs
> in places like North Korea and Iran. Who is forging new
> alliances among "rogue" states and is now almost
> single-handedly propping up Cuba. At the moment, he has
> latched on to the issue of a terrorist (who allegedly blew
> up a Cubana airliner during the 80's) who is here in the US
> (Texas, I believe). They claim we're harboring a terrorist,
> and they may even be right. The issue is being used by
> Chavez and Castro to make the US government look bad - and
> its working. A big story in Latin America, but not
> important here, I guess. Had a wealthy blonde american high
> schooler been on the jetliner, perhaps we'd pay attention.
>
> By the way, we hear NOTHING about Chavez - who is quite
> dangerous. Trust me, I travel there now and then. This
> government has oil money (ours - they actually OWN Citgo)
> and is buying lots of Chinese and Russian arms with it.
> And, he's in our own backyard.
>
> IF you can watch BBC News, you get to see coverage (albeit
> left leaning) about these stories. CNN International also
> hits on these issues. But, Fox, MSNBC, CNN, etc. are all
> fiddling while Rome burns. The "big 3" are no better in
> their respective coverage of the nightly news. Reminds me
> of news coverage on September 9, 2001.
>
> THAT'S why Aruba is bad journalism. We deserve better!
>

Yes, we certainly do. But the other news topics you list require some inquiry and honest reporting. Why expend that kind of effort when the Greta and Geraldo show can originate from Aruba for little more cost than satellite time for the feed to news central back in the states?

That's the direction the so-called news channels take now and will do so even more in the future. Isuues and possible threats (or actual threats) to world security don't matter--too costly to cover, not enough flash and trash value to suit an uninterested audience that wants its prurient interests stirred by a missing teen ager (granted, a tragedy but until something of news value occurs, enough already). Can't run the risk of alienating sponsors by covering a story of substance for fear the audience will associate "dull coverage" with "dull sponsors." Were I an industrial or business owner, don't think I'd want my company's name associated with the rubbish that's coming out of Aruba in the name of news. It's better suited to the air headed coverage afforded all the other lacking stories covered by the tabloid TV programs and those of that ilk.

What you say is on target. We deserve better, but it's not likely we'll get it with the ambulance chasing likes of Fox and MSNBC controlling the news agenda out of locations such as Aruba. For my part, I'm ready to take the 24 hour "news" (using the term loosely) operations off my remote--this whole thing has just become too ridiculous and too much.
 
Re: WHY Aruba is bad journalism

> I don't watch PBS's NewsHour. What is it like in comparison
> to the tabloid channels?

A decided improvement, even considering the idealogical orientation of some of the content. Still, anything is better than the garbage the so-called news channels are dumping on viewers.
 
Re: WHY Aruba is bad journalism

> I don't watch PBS's NewsHour. What is it like in comparison
> to the tabloid channels?

NewsHour = The New York Times
tabloid channels = The New York Post<P ID="signature">______________
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