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Don C said:
Talk_Dude said:
In the case of Savage, no reason at all. In the case of Schlesinger, any time anyone gives out therapeutic advice on psychological matters and uses the title Dr., it is implied that the person doing the talking is a Doctor trained in psychology. Maybe you can split hairs over the difference between "hinting" and "implying", any person who calls themselves "Dr." and gives out advice and opinions that should come only from someone whose doctorate is in an appropriate field is a fraud and a charlatan.

As for Hawking, he has a doctorate in Physics and presents himself as a physicist. That's hardly similar to "Dr. Laura" presenting herself as an expert in interpersonal relationships when she is not qualified and who claims to present the moral high ground when she has a personal history of being the "other woman", which is a polite way of saying she's a marriage-breaking slut.

It's obvious you have some sort of grudge against Dr. Laura, but you can't possibly be suggesting that radio advice shows be done only by actual shrinks who have never done anything wrong in their lives.

No, I'm suggesting that when a reformed bimbo like Laura Schlesinger gives out her advice, she should simply call herself "Mrs. Schlesinger". Or "Laura Schlesinger". I don't care that she got her start in radio by having an affair with a married man, or that she later broke up another marriage as the "other woman". I don't care that much of her advice (at least back when I listened to her) was totally bogus. I don't care that she's inept and incompetent. What I care about is her masquerading as a medical doctor when she isn't one. It's only a short step up from the radio sex therapist who called herself "Dr." thanks to a degree from an unaccredited diploma mill who sold her a PhD for $1,000. Schlesinger is about as credible as the charlatan preachers who got their ordinations from the Universal Life Church.

Or, she could continue to call herself "Dr. Laura", so long as there is a disclaimer aired that says she isn't a qualified psychologist or medical practitioner, and that her opinions are for entertainment purposes only.
 
Silkie said:
She's that much of a threat to you, is she?

No, but it took me all of two whole minutes to type that post. Something doesn't have to be that big of a threat to inspire me to take two whole minutes to tell the truth about them. I don't even know if she's on the air in the area where I live. I also don't care. When hypocrites like Schlesinger scam the public, that's just plain wrong. One need not be personally threatened by something that's just plain wrong to speak out against it. I think all frauds, charlatans, and quacks are scum, but there aren't any threads running about any others at the moment. This thread is running about Schlesinger, who is a fraud, charlatan, and a quack.
 
OK guys n gals, its been years since I've listened to the show on any consistent basis, but I have never heard Dr. Laura claim nor imply that she was a medical doctor nor was practicing marital therapy (which no one can do in two minutes). When I was listening, she was OK with divorce for things like adultery, addictions and abuse. "You don't turn me on anymore". No. Geesh, what if people decided it wasn't "all about me" and spouses weren't as disposable as a soda bottle. Suggesting that a parent raise their children and take a few years off of working 85 hours a week on the corporate treadmill? We can't HAVE THAT! (and you guys claim to hate corporations) As I recall she did discuss 9/11's impact on children at the time.
Is there any actual evidence her degree in physiology was not earned?
Obviously the mere mention of Dr. Laura's name gets liberals into frothing at the mouth mode.
 
Talk_Dude said:
It's only a short step up from the radio sex therapist who called herself "Dr." thanks to a degree from an unaccredited diploma mill who sold her a PhD for $1,000. Schlesinger is about as credible as the charlatan preachers who got their ordinations from the Universal Life Church.

She has a Ph.D. from Columbia University. She earned the right to be called doctor and to call herself that.

You'd probably really go nuts in a country where lawyers are also called doctors.
 
Talk_Dude said:
Don C said:
Talk_Dude said:
Dr. Laura has a PhD in Physiology (hence calling herself "Doctor").

I'll call Stephen Hawking and tell him to stop using the title "Doctor".

You take all this talk radio stuff way too seriously. Seriously. Dr. .Laura has never even HINTED that her doctorate is in anything but physiology. Just like Mike Savage doesn't pretend his doctorate is in political science. They earned the titles, so why wouldn't they use them?

In the case of Savage, no reason at all. In the case of Schlesinger, any time anyone gives out therapeutic advice on psychological matters and uses the title Dr., it is implied that the person doing the talking is a Doctor trained in psychology. Maybe you can split hairs over the difference between "hinting" and "implying", any person who calls themselves "Dr." and gives out advice and opinions that should come only from someone whose doctorate is in an appropriate field is a fraud and a charlatan.

As for Hawking, he has a doctorate in Physics and presents himself as a physicist. That's hardly similar to "Dr. Laura" presenting herself as an expert in interpersonal relationships when she is not qualified and who claims to present the moral high ground when she has a personal history of being the "other woman", which is a polite way of saying she's a marriage-breaking slut.

Savage clearly states what his PhD is in. Dr. Laura doesn't thus the implication she is a qualified counsler, she's not.
 
gr8oldies said:
OK guys n gals, its been years since I've listened to the show on any consistent basis, but I have never heard Dr. Laura claim nor imply that she was a medical doctor nor was practicing marital therapy (which no one can do in two minutes). When I was listening, she was OK with divorce for things like adultery, addictions and abuse. "You don't turn me on anymore". No. Geesh, what if people decided it wasn't "all about me" and spouses weren't as disposable as a soda bottle. Suggesting that a parent raise their children and take a few years off of working 85 hours a week on the corporate treadmill? We can't HAVE THAT! (and you guys claim to hate corporations) As I recall she did discuss 9/11's impact on children at the time.
Is there any actual evidence her degree in physiology was not earned?
Obviously the mere mention of Dr. Laura's name gets liberals into frothing at the mouth mode.

Dr. Laura certainly did a nice job at raising little Deryk, didn't she. Maybe if she spent more time with him, he wouldn't be a troubled pervert. Funny how the Dr. Laura fans don't mention the problems of her son.
 
UpstateNYBill said:
Talk_Dude said:
Don C said:
Talk_Dude said:
Dr. Laura has a PhD in Physiology (hence calling herself "Doctor").

I'll call Stephen Hawking and tell him to stop using the title "Doctor".

You take all this talk radio stuff way too seriously. Seriously. Dr. .Laura has never even HINTED that her doctorate is in anything but physiology. Just like Mike Savage doesn't pretend his doctorate is in political science. They earned the titles, so why wouldn't they use them?

In the case of Savage, no reason at all. In the case of Schlesinger, any time anyone gives out therapeutic advice on psychological matters and uses the title Dr., it is implied that the person doing the talking is a Doctor trained in psychology. Maybe you can split hairs over the difference between "hinting" and "implying", any person who calls themselves "Dr." and gives out advice and opinions that should come only from someone whose doctorate is in an appropriate field is a fraud and a charlatan.

As for Hawking, he has a doctorate in Physics and presents himself as a physicist. That's hardly similar to "Dr. Laura" presenting herself as an expert in interpersonal relationships when she is not qualified and who claims to present the moral high ground when she has a personal history of being the "other woman", which is a polite way of saying she's a marriage-breaking slut.

Savage clearly states what his PhD is in. Dr. Laura doesn't thus the implication she is a qualified counsler, she's not.
I've never heard her present herself as "an expert."
She just gives out advice, and a lot of people seem to listen to her, and often it works. You don't have to be real "qualified" to do that, do ya? Sometimes you only have to be a grandma's age.
Would an APA certification make her advice any more credible or foolproof? Nah, it would just give her detractors one less thing to detract.
 
UpstateNYBill said:
gr8oldies said:
OK guys n gals, its been years since I've listened to the show on any consistent basis, but I have never heard Dr. Laura claim nor imply that she was a medical doctor nor was practicing marital therapy (which no one can do in two minutes). When I was listening, she was OK with divorce for things like adultery, addictions and abuse. "You don't turn me on anymore". No. Geesh, what if people decided it wasn't "all about me" and spouses weren't as disposable as a soda bottle. Suggesting that a parent raise their children and take a few years off of working 85 hours a week on the corporate treadmill? We can't HAVE THAT! (and you guys claim to hate corporations) As I recall she did discuss 9/11's impact on children at the time.
Is there any actual evidence her degree in physiology was not earned?
Obviously the mere mention of Dr. Laura's name gets liberals into frothing at the mouth mode.

Dr. Laura certainly did a nice job at raising little Deryk, didn't she. Maybe if she spent more time with him, he wouldn't be a troubled pervert. Funny how the Dr. Laura fans don't mention the problems of her son.
What new is there to mention since 5/2007? That's the latest dates I could find on anything on a google search about him.

Whew, I hope your kids don't step out of line at any point. I'd hate to have to mention that every time someone asked about UpstateNYBill.
 
Here's an idea. Hire someone who has a PhD in some field like mechanical engineering or maybe a Doctor of Divinity degree to be the spokesperson for some new medicine. Run a bunch of commercials featuring this person saying "I'm Doctor Smith. Poop-stop capsules really stop diarehha." Include no disclaimers. Then see how quick the FTC, FCC, and half a dozen other Federal Agencies descend on the makers of Poop-stop capsules for misleading advertising.

Here's another idea. If someone who hosted a TV show on home improvements added a new roof to his house and it collapsed, would that not indicate a certain lack of qualifications or expertise on the part of that host? If someone hosted a TV cooking show and included lessons in food handling safety, and it turns out that a banquet he catered resulted in many cases of sickness and even death from food poisioning, would that not indicate a certain lack of qualification or expertise on the part of that host?

So why is it that if "Dr." Laura is giving advice on how to raise kids and her own kids turn out to have been raised wrong, how does that not indicate a certain lack of qualification or expertise on her part?

I'll admit that I don't know how to install a new roof, and that my own kids aren't perfect. But then, I'm not on the radio calling myself "Dr." and giving out advice, am I?
 
She's not giving medical advice. She's telling parents to kick their deadbeat druggie kids out of the house or telling women not to have 3 kids with 3 different fathers. You don't need a medical degree to dispense common sense advice.

Just admit you have some sort of hangup about her and get over it. No one on radio is really qualified to be giving advice on what they do, or else they'd be doing that for a living instead of radio. To paraphrase an old saying: those who can DO, those who can't go into radio.
 
She's not pushing PoopStop is she? That would be different.
She's just doling out advice, same as happens in a lot of families and communities.
Or used to, at least.

What were they gonna call the show? The age of people listening to "Housewife Laura" type shows was long ago [did she ever do recipes or household hints, or just advice?]. "Dr. Laura" probably sounded better at the time than "Advice for the Lovelorn" or "Family Tips with Laura Schlessinger." Dang who would NOT shorten it to cut off that cumbersome last name, and throw on a title? Pretty early on, the truth about her degree [was it from a mill?] was known, I don't think she's been going around fooling anyone for years, but some people are still hung up on that.

Talk_Dude, if you can build a kid with a long-term guarantee of doing nothing wrong like you expect a home improvement host or a chef to build a roof or a meal, then I gotta know your secrets, man. Is there room in your schedule for a new internet advice show, perhaps? ;D
 
quadraphonic said:
UpstateNYBill said:
gr8oldies said:
OK guys n gals, its been years since I've listened to the show on any consistent basis, but I have never heard Dr. Laura claim nor imply that she was a medical doctor nor was practicing marital therapy (which no one can do in two minutes). When I was listening, she was OK with divorce for things like adultery, addictions and abuse. "You don't turn me on anymore". No. Geesh, what if people decided it wasn't "all about me" and spouses weren't as disposable as a soda bottle. Suggesting that a parent raise their children and take a few years off of working 85 hours a week on the corporate treadmill? We can't HAVE THAT! (and you guys claim to hate corporations) As I recall she did discuss 9/11's impact on children at the time.
Is there any actual evidence her degree in physiology was not earned?
Obviously the mere mention of Dr. Laura's name gets liberals into frothing at the mouth mode.

Dr. Laura certainly did a nice job at raising little Deryk, didn't she. Maybe if she spent more time with him, he wouldn't be a troubled pervert. Funny how the Dr. Laura fans don't mention the problems of her son.
What new is there to mention since 5/2007? That's the latest dates I could find on anything on a google search about him.

Whew, I hope your kids don't step out of line at any point. I'd hate to have to mention that every time someone asked about UpstateNYBill.

I don't tell people how to raise their families unlike Dr Laura who says one thing then doesn't live up to her own hype. The fact that her son had racist rants and had sexual deviant drawings of rape and child molestation on his My Space tells me she didn't follow her own advice of her book
http://www.amazon.com/Stupid-Things-Parents-Mess-Their/dp/0060933798/ref=cm_lmf_tit_4

We knows he got his view of race from mommy and who knows where he gets his even sicker tastes from.

The fact that this thread about Dr. Laura gets so many posts is amazing considering she is no longer relevant among national talk shows. I haven't heard of her show in years and no stations in the markets around me haven't carried her in a few years.
 
Don C said:
She's not giving medical advice. She's telling parents to kick their deadbeat druggie kids out of the house or telling women not to have 3 kids with 3 different fathers. You don't need a medical degree to dispense common sense advice.

Just admit you have some sort of hangup about her and get over it. No one on radio is really qualified to be giving advice on what they do, or else they'd be doing that for a living instead of radio. To paraphrase an old saying: those who can DO, those who can't go into radio.

She is giving "lifestyle" advice on family dynamics, which is part of psychology. There are qualified, trained, and licensed practitioners out there who provide professional family counseling. Here hypocritical, allegedly "common sense" ramblings are basically practicing family group therapy without a license.

I don't have a particular hang-up about her in particular. If this thread (which I didn't start) was about some other reformed slut and bimbo giving out professional family therapy advice without qualifications, I'd rant about that other reformed slut and bimbo. Personally, I think that all reformed sluts and bimbos who dispense professional family therapy advice without a license are despicable.
 
And for the record, she isn't carried on any station that I can pick up where I live. Not that I'd want to listen to her.
 
So there's two people who don't listen to her show but know what she says.
And both can tell from her 21-year-old kid's actions on apparently ONE MySpace page three years ago the ways and whens of how she raised him?

It doesn't take a degree to talk to someone about family dynamics or any other "part of psychology."
Both those two people here are doing just that.
What's the difference again? I don't see it.
At least one of them admitted he's not perfect. ;D
 
Don C said:
Talk_Dude said:
And for the record, she isn't carried on any station that I can pick up where I live. Not that I'd want to listen to her.

So what station fired you to carry her show? That's the only explanation for such vitriol over a stupid advice show.

Doesn't matter anymore, Don. She just announced on "Larry King Live" she's hanging it up.
 
gr8oldies said:
So you don't listen to the show, you just know you hate her.

I listened to her show a little many years ago. I couldn't listen to her even if I wanted to since she is no longer carried in major markets around here for years.

Dr. Laura is a big hypocrit. She says mothers should stay home and raise their family. Well Dr. Laura had her radio show, which required her to be away from her family for more than the 3 hours that she was on the air. Plus she had all her books that she wrote. I know people that write books and writing a book requires tremendous hours of time. Plus she had the book tours and signings. No wonder little Deryk became a pyromaniac and a pedophile.
 
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