MOViN 939

[shirleyschmidt]

Dees has NOT kept up with the times. Several friends of mine tuned in to hear his show and quickly tuned out. It wasn't the music so much as hearing the same old jokes and "gags". After listening to his show, most said something like "That is why he was canned from the other station," or "I didn't like Dees then and I don't now. He's doing the same crap."

There were a few people telling me that "Dees time has passed" and some used the term "Has-been." To me that says he is not keeping up with the times when old listeners aren't staying faithful to him. Ratings are supporting part of that.

I am also in agreement that the TV ads weren't the best decision on Emmis' part. They may have worked in other markets with other DJs, but did not fare well with Dees and the LA market.

The station would be better if they did take some over paid DJ wages and spread them out over the station format and talent. Bring in some new blood (at least at this stage in the game). Dees was a name that got the station some press mileage, but that is now over with.

Face it, they took a risk and it is not working. Time to reconsider the options.

Seacrest is another topic all together.

 

[jasonharper2013]

I think Movin 939 Should Goes CHR/Dance But I Think It Would Hurt Power 106 too Much

What Do You People Think

All of My Friends Listen To Power 106 as well

 

[kyscott]

There were a few people telling me that "Dees time has passed" and some used the term "Has-been." To me that says he is not keeping up with the times when old listeners aren't staying faithful to him. Ratings are supporting part of that.

Ironicly it's the same words some people on here have used. Looks like someone else with a grudge against Dees and reading the Clear Channel talking points.

 

[shirleyschmidt]

There were a few people telling me that "Dees time has passed" and some used the term "Has-been." To me that says he is not keeping up with the times when old listeners aren't staying faithful to him. Ratings are supporting part of that.

Ironicly it's the same words some people on here have used. Looks like someone else with a grudge against Dees and reading the Clear Channel talking points.

Guess if someone has a valid opinion that does not match yours, you are closed minded about it. If several people have a similar opinion, then maybe people should look at that. What I stated was nothing that would not apply to any other air-talent that never updates their acts.

Maybe you could ask a question like "What could he do to improve his show?" Guess you'd just rather take a stab at anyone whose opinion is not 100% positive about the show and station.

There was nothing attacking him or any words used that suggest a grudge. It is the opinion of this poster that his show and gags are old, and that others I know have said the exact same thing.

Clear Channel and whatever someone over there may say about Dees has nothing to do with my personal thoughts and opinions and I don't read their ideas anyways. I am not sure what Clear Channel has to do with it.

I think maybe you should go after someone else unless you have a thing for me.

 

[Marv-L.A.]

25-44 has always been a hugely important demo for the Hot AC format; that's no secret. The fact that Seacrest did very well against Sean Valentine @ KIIS and Bryan Simmons @ KOST made him a natural choice to do mornings at either KIIS or KBIG.

Although KIIS is definitely not an adult CHR (thanks to an addiction to pursuing the 18-34 females out there); KOST, KYSR & KBIG have all been far more tolerable to 40+ adults than KIIS has in several years; KIIS started blowing off their adults 20+ years ago as a result of a horrendous overreaction to KPWR, and Seacrest (and Valentine) do deserve tons of credit in boosting KIIS's 25-54 numbers over the past several years.

 

[vonrollskyway1]

i do feel if movin went to a dance format,it would do a bit better than what they are now.noone moves to slow ballads do they?btw,does anyone know the program director to power 106 in the 80s?hire him to turn movin around

;D

 

[davideduardo]

Although KIIS is definitely not an adult CHR (thanks to an addiction to pursuing the 18-34 females out there); KOST, KYSR & KBIG have all been far more tolerable to 40+ adults than KIIS has in several years; KIIS started blowing off their adults 20+ years ago as a result of a horrendous overreaction to KPWR, and Seacrest (and Valentine) do deserve tons of credit in boosting KIIS's 25-54 numbers over the past several years.

CHR's with rare exceptions are 18-34 female driven, with 18-34 males secondary and teens there for the cume bulk.

KIIS is not supposed to be tolerable to 40+ adults precisely because it is CHR, which for the last 30 years has meant 18-34 women. KIIS does not aim at 25-54, nor does any CHR... if the target is 25-44, it's a hot AC, if it is 35-54 it is a traditional AC. KIIS's adult females in the target are as high as they have been in the last 10 or 12 years (I don't have earlier numbers with me) and much higher than in the last Dees year.

Surprise... in 18-34 women in LA, the hip hop and rhythmic cuts are what propels the station. Those are the hits.

 

[ajhenderson]

thanks to an addiction to pursuing the 18-34 females out there

I guess there is something KIIS and I have in common.

 

[kyscott]

There were a few people telling me that "Dees time has passed" and some used the term "Has-been." To me that says he is not keeping up with the times when old listeners aren't staying faithful to him. Ratings are supporting part of that.

Ironicly it's the same words some people on here have used. Looks like someone else with a grudge against Dees and reading the Clear Channel talking points.

Guess if someone has a valid opinion that does not match yours, you are closed minded about it. If several people have a similar opinion, then maybe people should look at that. What I stated was nothing that would not apply to any other air-talent that never updates their acts.

Maybe you could ask a question like "What could he do to improve his show?" Guess you'd just rather take a stab at anyone whose opinion is not 100% positive about the show and station.

There was nothing attacking him or any words used that suggest a grudge. It is the opinion of this poster that his show and gags are old, and that others I know have said the exact same thing.

Clear Channel and whatever someone over there may say about Dees has nothing to do with my personal thoughts and opinions and I don't read their ideas anyways. I am not sure what Clear Channel has to do with it.

I think maybe you should go after someone else unless you have a thing for me.

Who are these "few people" you mentioned in your previous post?

 

[john77]

Seacrest is a good jock. But David, Clear Channel and KIIS are extremely vulnerable. You could pass gas in their conference room and someone would probably fall over because none of them have backbones.

If Emmis wanted to go in and do Adult CHR, the station would be phenominal, and KIIS would suffer! Thats a fact~

Very true. There's a hole that a nice MACK truck could drive though KIIS and KBIG at the moment, but I don't know if Emmis is smart enough to see it... the fact that KBIG continues to play that dance show on Saturday nights, rather than something more Hot AC format-friendly like an 80's show just shows how inept at programming a Hot AC CC is. And BTW, why hasn't CC ever played MB20's "How Far We've Come" or Colbie Caillat's "Realize?" Freaking ineptitide and incompetence on CC's part!

 

[shirleyschmidt]

There were a few people telling me that "Dees time has passed" and some used the term "Has-been." To me that says he is not keeping up with the times when old listeners aren't staying faithful to him. Ratings are supporting part of that.

Ironicly it's the same words some people on here have used. Looks like someone else with a grudge against Dees and reading the Clear Channel talking points.

Guess if someone has a valid opinion that does not match yours, you are closed minded about it. If several people have a similar opinion, then maybe people should look at that. What I stated was nothing that would not apply to any other air-talent that never updates their acts.

Maybe you could ask a question like "What could he do to improve his show?" Guess you'd just rather take a stab at anyone whose opinion is not 100% positive about the show and station.

There was nothing attacking him or any words used that suggest a grudge. It is the opinion of this poster that his show and gags are old, and that others I know have said the exact same thing.

Clear Channel and whatever someone over there may say about Dees has nothing to do with my personal thoughts and opinions and I don't read their ideas anyways. I am not sure what Clear Channel has to do with it.

I think maybe you should go after someone else unless you have a thing for me.

Who are these "few people" you mentioned in your previous post?

Do you really care to know??

Two are a DJ's of other formats. Three are friends who use to love Dees but now will not listen to his show (after tuning into 93.9 for a few tries after his show started); one is a PD of a radio station outside of LA. One is a Radio Market researcher. One is an editor of a radio indie magazine -- to name a few. Then there are assorted friends..quite a few agree.

Now what will you do with the info?? Nothing. Because it does not matter who says it and many do. Ratings already prove it.

 

[kyscott]

And I have "friends" that say otherwise. One is an engineer, two are PDs and another is a former GM.

See how easy it is to make crap up?

 

[Marv-L.A.]

If Dees couldn't relate to KIIS's core audience, which had gotten progressively younger over the past 15 years, how the heck was he suppsed to be able to relate to a 35-year old Hispanic female on a station featuring a music library which had been burnt to a crisp thanks to KIIS, KHHT, KBBT, KPWR, KBIG & KGGI, just to name a few other stations?

 

[kyscott]

If Dees couldn't relate to KIIS's core audience, which had gotten progressively younger over the past 15 years, how the heck was he suppsed to be able to relate to a 35-year old Hispanic female on a station featuring a music library which had been burnt to a crisp thanks to KIIS, KHHT, KBBT, KPWR, KBIG & KGGI, just to name a few other stations?

I will stand by my original assessment, if KMVN were to change their format to CHR and go head to head with KIIS, you'd see the folks at KIIS flip out once they dropped a few numbers. Could KMVN take out KIIS completely? I dunno. I did compare their signals on the FCC's database and they are about the same. I do know that Clear Channel is bleeding money. I also know that Clear Channel is distracted with their trying to force this sale. And employee moral is getting lower by the minute at all the Clear Channel properties. Just like President Reagan broke the Soviets by trying to keep up with our military spending, perhaps if KMVN were to flip, use Guerrilla Marketing and force KIIS to keep up with them, they just might be able to topple Clear Channel.

Given the chance, I'd stop at nothing but taking them out.

 

[davideduardo]

I do know that Clear Channel is bleeding money.

Clear is hugely profitable, and throws of waaaaaaay over a billion in EBITDA. Lat year it was $2.2 billion, in fact.

 

[CHRles]

Heh, I got a final in Finance on Friday and I definitely need to remember that EBITDA stands for earnings before interest and taxes, depreciation, and amortazation ;D

You guys feel free to use as many financial formulas and statements in this post as you like

 

[kyscott]

2.2 billion EBITDA is great, but what's their expenses? If they were doing all that great, they would not be cutting personal and talent the way they are.

 

[romer979fm]

If they were doing all that great, they would not be cutting personal and talent the way they are.

since you're not posting from inside a CC facility, your posts
make you look silly. they fall into the same category as
"CC banned the Dixie Chicks".
try a fact or two first.

 

[davideduardo]

2.2 billion EBITDA is great, but what's their expenses? If they were doing all that great, they would not be cutting personal and talent the way they are.

EBITDA is profit before taxes and depriciation, etc. It's AFTER operating expenses.

Clear is throwing off tons of cash... the expressed reason for going private was that they are making lots of money, but the market was undervaluing them.

In case you havin't noticed, we are in an unannounced recession and every company is tightening its belt.

 

[kyscott]

If they were doing all that great, they would not be cutting personal and talent the way they are.

since you're not posting from inside a CC facility, your posts
make you look silly. they fall into the same category as
"CC banned the Dixie Chicks".
try a fact or two first.

Funny, but I don't see any facts in your post.