MSNBC PERMANENTLY CANCELS DON IMUS

[manwhore]

Hypothetically speaking; Is Imus' firing worth it if say, half a dozen kids die of SIDS(isn't that what the radiothon funds)who would have been cured by the money he raises if he loses the radio gig too?

 

[mostb1]

Hypothetically speaking; Is Imus' firing worth it if say, half a dozen kids die of SIDS(isn't that what the radiothon funds)who would have been cured by the money he raises if he loses the radio gig too?

Nothing like a racist looking for redemption by raising money to get to heaven..

He's already said that the donations are higher than ever. If CBS wants to do the right thing, they should have ALREADY removed him from the airwaves and donated every cent that was expected for his charity and more and moved on. Imus ain't coming back after tomorrow anyway.

 

[mostb1]

and yet his staff and his guests make comments on how old/wrinkled/turkey necked he is. They've called him a pedophile for marrying a women so many years his younger. They make comments about him being a drunk and a cokehead.

And, amazingly, Imus never fired the staff members, and neither Al Sharpton nor Jesse Jackson ewver screamed racism about these people making such insulting comments about an old white man.

And his staff members haven't been heard apologizing about this and many other past racist remarks either. That makes Imus look like a protector of good 'ol boy racism.

While on Sharpton's show, Imus called himself a "cracker". Sharpton told him NOT to insult his own race.

 

[radiolover78]

This is such BS.None of this should have happened.It was a joke and the same kind of jokes are said everday by all of you and i and all the comedians. Al sharpton is a douhebag and someone need to do something about him. He takes pride in ruining peoples lives and hes struck again.

Learn about racism before you lose your job. It was NOT a joke. IT WAS A PLANNED RACIST COMMENT.

: It was not planned. Stop making crap up.

 

[radiolover78]

It was NOT a joke. It was a racist, sexist statement from an Archie Bunker.


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Yes it was. A bad joke of course.

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[mostb1]

"and yet his staff and his guests make comments on how old/wrinkled/turkey necked he is. They've called him a pedophile for marrying a women so many years his younger. They make comments about him being a drunk and a cokehead.

And, amazingly, Imus never fired the staff members, and neither Al Sharpton nor Jesse Jackson ewver screamed racism about these people making such insulting comments about an old white man."

Call me crazy, but just maybe Sharpton and Jackson were silent because there was nothing remotely racial about these incidents.

You appear to be one of those folks who lives out in a place where the buses don't run.

My final comment to you and to MostB1....

I do pity both of you. I do so hope that you are more forgiving of people in your own life when they screw up and make a terrible mistake in a moment of nonthinking.

As for myself, I tend to look at what a person does, rather than what they say. As an Imus listener for 30 years, I know all his outrageous comments from the past. I also know the man has raised millions for the Hackensack Children's Medical Center, millions more for the Intrepid Fund for Fallen Heroes, spent millions of his money, and countless hours, with his ranch for kids with cancer, took every politician to task for the lapse in care at Walter Reed and VA hospitals, and was one of the few voices on the national stage to call into question why blacks in New Orleans were left to die, while whites were being bussed out.

The man has done much more good than bad, and his loss from the airwaves will be felt, hardest, by children with cancer (and their families), and veterans who rely on him to voice outrage.

A two second mistake has led to this. And people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the ones on here who are quick to condemn have carried it for over a week. You all can now feel proud, and strut and feel as if you've accomplished something. Then tomorrow, what will you all do for the kids and the veterans?

You can not be both a "racist" and an "angel of mercy" at the same time. That ONLY makes you a HYPOCRITE. His donations and charity work doesn't give him a "pass" for his racist, sexual and homophobic comments. They've gone on for too long and been condoned (given a wink and a nod and a smile) by broadcast executives along top politicians and major journalists who regularly appear. These are people who know better and are only interested in the GREEN and exposure that Imus gave them. THEY ARE HYPOCRITES TOO (along with a number of you posting here).

There is no foregiveness for a man who has promised (Clarence Page, Chicago Tribune) to stop making these remarks. If he were a dog, I'd say he has a VICIOUS PROPENSITY to bite. That's actionable and can't be tolerated. He is a liar. He's not sorry except that he's sorry he finally got caught doing it. I shed NO tears for his end. It's poetic justice.

 

[mostb1]

It was NOT a joke. It was a racist, sexist statement from an Archie Bunker.

Yes it was. A bad joke of course.

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No, it was a PLANNED racist statement from someone who has a history of doing so.

 

[radiolover78]

Hypothetically speaking; Is Imus' firing worth it if say, half a dozen kids die of SIDS(isn't that what the radiothon funds)who would have been cured by the money he raises if he loses the radio gig too?

Nothing like a racist looking for redemption by raising money to get to heaven..

Only you could manage to knock down someone for being charitable. Like I said before.

Now I know why your head isn't clear! You live in Los Angeles. Can't get fresh air there. Perhaps a weekend away from the city would do you some good. Go up to the mountains. I don't want you to get too stressed out about Imus. It might begin to affect your health.

 

[radiolover78]

No, it was a PLANNED racist statement from someone who has a history of doing so.

Stop lying. It was not planned.

 

[mostb1]

Hypothetically speaking; Is Imus' firing worth it if say, half a dozen kids die of SIDS(isn't that what the radiothon funds)who would have been cured by the money he raises if he loses the radio gig too?

Nothing like a racist looking for redemption by raising money to get to heaven..

Only you could manage to knock down someone for being charitable. Like I said before.

Now I know why your head isn't clear! You live in Los Angeles. Can't get fresh air there. Perhaps a weekend away from the city would do you some good. Go up to the mountains. I don't want you to get too stressed out about Imus. It might begin to affect your health.

Imus is the one who knocked himself down. And no one else.

I live near the ocean. I assure you I'm breathing better air than what you and Imus are breathing (or smoking).

 

[Knowsnews2]

Let's see...he's the racist who was the first national broadcaster to openly question why blacks in new Orleans were left to die during Katrina, while white guests at high priced hotels were evacuated by buses.

He's the racist who supported Harold Ford, a black candidate in a southern state, over the white candidate, who employed racist attacks in his campaign.

He's the racist who was called by the wife of Bishop G.E. Patterson right after the Bishop passed away, and was thanked by Mrs. Patterson for being such a great friend and supporter of the Bishop.

He's the racist who, 5 seconds after his comment about the Rutgers team complimented the players on the Tennessee squad, most of whom are black.

He made a stupid remark. We all do it. A racial comment does not make someone a racist.

And, one last thing; this country has become too damned sensitive. It is why there is such hatred. Because people like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, or our learned poster from the beach, are so bust trying to hate that they can't realize that a two second comment should not overshadow a lifetime of good work. Hating is easier. You do it well.

 

[mostb1]

Let's see...he's the racist who was the first national broadcaster to openly question why blacks in new Orleans were left to die during Katrina, while white guests at high priced hotels were evacuated by buses.

He's the racist who supported Harold Ford, a black candidate in a southern state, over the white candidate, who employed racist attacks in his campaign.

He's the racist who was called by the wife of Bishop G.E. Patterson right after the Bishop passed away, and was thanked by Mrs. Patterson for being such a great friend and supporter of the Bishop.

He's the racist who, 5 seconds after his comment about the Rutgers team complimented the players on the Tennessee squad, most of whom are black.

He made a stupid remark. We all do it. A racial comment does not make someone a racist.

And, one last thing; this country has become too damned sensitive. It is why there is such hatred. Because people like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, or our learned poster from the beach, are so bust trying to hate that they can't realize that a two second comment should not overshadow a lifetime of good work. Hating is easier. You do it well.

Imus is the hater, not me. Spinning the story towards me does nothing. This man is losing his job because he spews racist comments and finally picked on the wrong people. He pays the price. He needs to take his lumps like a man.

A partial history of his racist, sexist, homophobic comments http://www.slate.com/id/2163872/?nav=fix I suggest you read it.

 

[Johnny Morgan]

So, let me get this right: because Imus is a racist, sexist, and homophobe, he deserves to lose his job.

I thought the problem was his words, the words that apparently the Rutgers' players say have scarred them for life.

Now that the *words* argument has run into a brickwall, considering that they are of common usage among very public black figures and authors (try looking up "nappy" in an Amazon search and see how many black authors' books come back, to say nothing of the celebratory use of "ho" among all forms of media entertainment), the problem is with who Imus is.

And that he's been this way for years.

If his racism, sexism and homophobia are such a problem, why does it merit being run out of town now? Why the big scene now, and not 25 years ago? Or 30 years ago? He was a racist then, no?

Or is this simply the continuing parade of celebratory blood letting that the activists have now that they tasted some of Imus's blood--suspension, apology, lost TV simulcast aren't enough.

The ONLY THING that will cure Don Imus of his racism, sexism, and homophobia is being unemployed?

That, quite simply, shocks the conscience.

I sure hope you can explain how taking away a person's employment changes their (alleged) bad characteristics.

 

[mostb1]

So, let me get this right: because Imus is a racist, sexist, and homophobe, he deserves to lose his job.

I thought the problem was his words, the words that apparently the Rutgers' players say have scarred them for life.

Now that the *words* argument has run into a brickwall, considering that they are of common usage among very public black figures and authors (try looking up "nappy" in an Amazon search and see how many black authors' books come back, to say nothing of the celebratory use of "ho" among all forms of media entertainment), the problem is with who Imus is.

And that he's been this way for years.

If his racism, sexism and homophobia are such a problem, why does it merit being run out of town now? Why the big scene now, and not 25 years ago? Or 30 years ago? He was a racist then, no?

Or is this simply the continuing parade of celebratory blood letting that the activists have now that they tasted some of Imus's blood--suspension, apology, lost TV simulcast aren't enough.

The ONLY THING that will cure Don Imus of his racism, sexism, and homophobia is being unemployed?

That, quite simply, shocks the conscience.

I sure hope you can explain how taking away a person's employment changes their (alleged) bad characteristics.

It's because he MAKES GREEN on the PUBLIC AIRWAVES for making racist, sexist, homophobic comments on a nationwide, politically charged show that he deseves to lose his job. And so do the broadcast executives at CBS and NBC that have given him a "pass" for the almighty dollar.

His show is held to a higher standard since he and CBS want the elite media people, Washington elites and top newsmakers to be part of his show. You can't be making offensive remarks about innocent people and not expect to have dire consequences when you've molded yourself into a political media player.

The big "scene" now is because he picked on the wrong people. The clock was ticking, it just took too long for the alarm to go off (he's been challenged before on this...read and ask Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune).

 

[Johnny Morgan]

So, it's not actually his comments that are the problem, or even his racism, sexism, and homophobia that concern you...

But the fact that he makes money from it?

What it all boils down to is that you don't mind the comments or the racism, et al. You have a problem with him making money, or anyone else making money.

I'm glad this is all resolved. It's not actually a race war, which is good. It's a class war, which isn't better, you know.

If he was speaking on a soapbox he'd be fine, but that he makes money from his comments, that so horribly and permanently bothers you that the ONLY resolution is for him to lose his job.

All because he makes money.

I knew there was something else at issue here. It never was race, or sex--they were merely means to the ends, which is class envy.

 

[mostb1]

So, it's not actually his comments that are the problem, or even his racism, sexism, and homophobia that concern you...

But the fact that he makes money from it?

What it all boils down to is that you don't mind the comments or the racism, et al. You have a problem with him making money, or anyone else making money.

I'm glad this is all resolved. It's not actually a race war, which is good. It's a class war, which isn't better, you know.

If he was speaking on a soapbox he'd be fine, but that he makes money from his comments, that so horribly and permanently bothers you that the ONLY resolution is for him to lose his job.

All because he makes money.

I knew there was something else at issue here. It never was race, or sex--they were merely means to the ends, which is class envy.

Your trying to spin my comments are very silly. I can't "hear" every person on a "soapbox" but I'll call them out on it as I hear them. But I can "hear" Imus (well, I could until MSNBC took him off).

The sickest part of it is Imus and many broadcasters are making money off of racist comments on a political news show.

Why don't you read this on how Imus reinforeced a DOUBLE STANDARD HIMSELF by going on to Sharpton's show. And it is from a conservative organization asking that he be fired http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/04-12-2007/0004564477&EDATE=

 

[Johnny Morgan]

I don't need to read any PR release from a third party, though in fairness I did read it.

So, again, what is the issue--is it the words themselves? Is it Imus's alleged racism? Is it the money he makes?

Imus's going on Sharpton's program was a misguided attempt to silence a critic. It didn't work, and Imus should have known better.

When blood letting is the goal, nothing short of the head will appease the activists. Sharpton has proven that.

The question is, and remains, what is enough for them?

The question for the country is, why do we permit such blood letting? And why do we go to such lengths to get people fired because of what they say? Are we insecure with ourselves that we need to redeem our self-esteem by firing idiots? Or do we use firing as a platform to get rid of elephants in the room that we don't want to engage?

In which case, how is that expanding any discourse in the country?

I just fail to see how getting rid of Don Imus is going to change his alleged racism, or will change the harm that alleged attached to the Rutgers' team, or will change perceived societal attitudes on race other than to make people silent.

Can someone explain all of this to me? Or haven't folks thought that far in their quest for the taste of a cowboy's blood?

 

[mostb1]

I don't need to read any PR release from a third party, though in fairness I did read it.

So, again, what is the issue--is it the words themselves? Is it Imus's alleged racism? Is it the money he makes?

Imus's going on Sharpton's program was a misguided attempt to silence a critic. It didn't work, and Imus should have known better.

When blood letting is the goal, nothing short of the head will appease the activists. Sharpton has proven that.

The question is, and remains, what is enough for them?

The question for the country is, why do we permit such blood letting? And why do we go to such lengths to get people fired because of what they say? Are we insecure with ourselves that we need to redeem our self-esteem by firing idiots? Or do we use firing as a platform to get rid of elephants in the room that we don't want to engage?

In which case, how is that expanding any discourse in the country?

I just fail to see how getting rid of Don Imus is going to change his alleged racism, or will change the harm that alleged attached to the Rutgers' team, or will change perceived societal attitudes on race other than to make people silent.

Can someone explain all of this to me? Or haven't folks thought that far in their quest for the taste of a cowboy's blood?

THIS IS ABOUT IMUS. Your other "rants" can come later.

You have to PAY for your bad deeds. Imus must PAY by resigning. It's the only HONORABLE thing to do. If this was old Japan, he'd have to kill himself for being so DISHONORABLE towards people (and, no, giving to charity doesn't make up for his racist on-air string of comments over time).

Since Imus doesn't seem to want to do the HONORABLE thing, he needs to be fired NOW by CBS.

 

[Johnny Morgan]

So, his bad deeds are using impolite words?

Or are his bad deeds being an alleged racist?

It's important to know exactly why he needs to be unemployed to make activists and others who want blood feel better.

 

[rapking]

Listen to some of the rap music and it makes Imus look like an angel.

But no one is bitching about that :

Easy Anwser to That . Stop Buying Rap Music ! 75% Rap Music Buyers , are WHITE People . 1 out 3 C D's sold , are Rap C D's . Al Sharpton is always bitching about Gangsta Rap , but no one wants to talk about that .