MundoFox TX market possibilities

[JHBrandt]

I think the ATSC standard supports 480p. I've never seen a station use it, but that doesn't mean there isn't someone somewhere that does. (Trip, do you know of any?)

No, not aware of any.

- Trip

Me neither, although it would seem like a reasonable alternative for the few stations trying to cram 2 HD feeds into one RF channel, like KXII & KTEN.

 

[silverthree]

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mu...ncrease-in-key-market-affiliations-2012-05-22

The RGV affiliate is an Entravision station. Wonder which one?? London Broadcasting has the Corpus affiliate. Also mentions they have signed a Dallas affiliate.

 

[txchipk]

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mu...ncrease-in-key-market-affiliations-2012-05-22

The RGV affiliate is an Entravision station. Wonder which one?? London Broadcasting has the Corpus affiliate. Also mentions they have signed a Dallas affiliate.

It says it signed with London in 4 markets, including Corpus Christi. So the other 3 possibilities are Tyler/Longview, Beaumont/Port Arthur, Waco/Temple, and Dallas/Fort Worth. I would guess these will be subchannels since it seems doubtful they would flip KIII or most of its other stations from one of the major networks to this new network.

 

[txchipk]

Further, read the wording of the press release ...

"To date, MundoFox has lined up Full Power stations in six of the top 10 U.S. Hispanic markets (Los Angeles # 1, Dallas #6, San Antonio #7, San Francisco #8, Phoenix #9 and Harlingen/McAllen #10), as well as with WJAN-41 in Miami (#3), the largest Spanish-Language independent station in the US. Additionally, MundoFox has secured an affiliate with full carriage in Chicago (# 5) and expects to announce affiliations in New York (#2) and Houston (#4) in the coming weeks, rounding out the top 10 markets."

It says it is on full power stations, but only mentions Chicago has full carriage. That would seem to imply they have only lined up one full power station that will put it on its ".1" must-carry channel (Chicago) and infer the rest will be subchannels of full power outlets.

It also lists Fox Television Stations as the holder in Washington DC -- clearly they will not be flipping WTTG from Fox. So, either it will flip WDCA (probably not also likely) or it's also destined for a subchannel on either.

 

[JHBrandt]

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mu...ncrease-in-key-market-affiliations-2012-05-22

The RGV affiliate is an Entravision station. Wonder which one?? London Broadcasting has the Corpus affiliate. Also mentions they have signed a Dallas affiliate.

It says it signed with London in 4 markets, including Corpus Christi. So the other 3 possibilities are Tyler/Longview, Beaumont/Port Arthur, Waco/Temple, and Dallas/Fort Worth. I would guess these will be subchannels since it seems doubtful they would flip KIII or most of its other stations from one of the major networks to this new network.

Here in DFW it'll probably be London's KTXD. I hope it doesn't replace 47.4!

More likely, 47.3, replacing Mexicanal, which in turn will have to find a new home: perhaps 55.x or back to one of Mako's LP stations.

 

[arnoldevns]

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mu...ncrease-in-key-market-affiliations-2012-05-22

The RGV affiliate is an Entravision station. Wonder which one?? London Broadcasting has the Corpus affiliate. Also mentions they have signed a Dallas affiliate.

It says it signed with London in 4 markets, including Corpus Christi.  So the other 3 possibilities are Tyler/Longview, Beaumont/Port Arthur, Waco/Temple, and Dallas/Fort Worth.  I would guess these will be subchannels since it seems doubtful they would flip KIII or most of its other stations from one of the major networks to this new network.

Realmente debería dar la vuelta a la KIII mundofox. Realmente, ¿por qué cualquier estación quiere transmitir en Inglés más?

(Sorry, just playing with Google translate to illustrate the absurdity of flipping an English language station to an untested Spanish language network.)

 

[fredcantu]

Realmente debería dar la vuelta a la KIII mundofox. Realmente, ¿por qué cualquier estación quiere transmitir en Inglés más?
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These translation programs still have a ways to go. What you wrote translates into English as follows:
"MundoFox should really go around KIII. Really. Why any station want to transmit more in English?"

This reminds me of the local fire department using a translation program to create a flyer.
This first thing I noticed was "Fire Department" had become "Department of Being Fired." LOL

 

[arnoldevns]

Realmente debería dar la vuelta a la KIII mundofox. Realmente, ¿por qué cualquier estación quiere transmitir en Inglés más?
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These translation programs still have a ways to go. What you wrote translates into English as follows:
"MundoFox should really go around KIII. Really. Why any station want to transmit more in English?"

This reminds me of the local fire department using a translation program to create a flyer.
This first thing I noticed was "Fire Department" had become "Department of Being Fired." LOL

Ha! Wow. That's good. I give google credit for more or less conveying the thought I was trying to make. (although "go around" could be interpreted as "avoid")

 

[fredcantu]

"Dar la vuelta" can mean...

turn the corner when you're driving

drop by and visit

go around to avoid

It all depends on how it's used. Think of how many times we say "oh" with dozens of inflections from surprise to disgust. You think Google's going to know which it is by reading "oh" in print?

 

[kevin120]

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mu...ncrease-in-key-market-affiliations-2012-05-22

The RGV affiliate is an Entravision station. Wonder which one?? London Broadcasting has the Corpus affiliate. Also mentions they have signed a Dallas affiliate.

It says it signed with London in 4 markets, including Corpus Christi. So the other 3 possibilities are Tyler/Longview, Beaumont/Port Arthur, Waco/Temple, and Dallas/Fort Worth. I would guess these will be subchannels since it seems doubtful they would flip KIII or most of its other stations from one of the major networks to this new network.

Here in DFW it'll probably be London's KTXD. I hope it doesn't replace 47.4!

More likely, 47.3, replacing Mexicanal, which in turn will have to find a new home: perhaps 55.x or back to one of Mako's LP stations.

Don't think KAZD is going to be carrying Mexicanal as they are planning to be transmitting in HD OTA by July 2nd according to representative of the station and that they might be HD OTA before then.

 

[arnoldevns]

My hunch is that Fox 4 will put it on 4.2 in the DFW area.

 

[JHBrandt]

Here in DFW it'll probably be London's KTXD. I hope it doesn't replace 47.4!

More likely, 47.3, replacing Mexicanal, which in turn will have to find a new home: perhaps 55.x or back to one of Mako's LP stations.

Don't think KAZD is going to be carrying Mexicanal as they are planning to be transmitting in HD OTA by July 2nd according to representative of the station and that they might be HD OTA before then.

Maybe not, but it's not out of the question. This lineup would work:

55.1: Azteca (HD)
55.2: Vietface (SD)
55.3: Biz TV (SD)
55.4: Mexicanal (SD)

One HD + three SD subchannels is the same mix KTXD is broadcasting, so it's technically feasible without degrading the PQ too badly.

The real question is whether KTXD would be willing to drop all their infomercial channels. Given their history that seems unlikely, although depending on when contracts expire and what they think would be most profitable, they could pick up Mexicanal, keep an infomercial channel, and kick a different SD channel down the road to one of Mako's offerings.

We'll just have to wait and see how the game of musical chairs plays out

 

[JHBrandt]

My hunch is that Fox 4 will put it on 4.2 in the DFW area.

Certainly possible - KDFW seems to have dropped their M/H simulcast, perhaps to make room for a channel 4.2.

The only drawback is that major network affiliates seem not to want to mix subchannels with different languages. At least one popular converter box (Magnavox) doesn't let you delete individual subchannels, so if 4.1 is English and 4.2 is Spanish, the viewer still has to take both. It makes channel-surfing a bit more annoying if a station keeps popping up in a language you don't understand.

 

[fredcantu]

major network affiliates seem not to want to mix subchannels with different languages.

Maybe that's a Dallas thing.
In Austin ABC, CBS and PBS have Spanish language subchannels.
In San Antonio NBC, CBS and PBS have Spanish language subchannels.

 

[easttxtv]

major network affiliates seem not to want to mix subchannels with different languages.

Maybe that's a Dallas thing.
In Austin ABC, CBS and PBS have Spanish language subchannels.
In San Antonio NBC, CBS and PBS have Spanish language subchannels.

Tyler/Longview has mixed language subchannels also.
KLTV/7 and KTRE/9 (ABC) have Telemundo
KYTX/19 (CBS) has AztecaAmerica (and is the only 1 of the 3 that does local Spanish language newscasts)
KETK/56 (NBC) has EstrellaTV

 

[TroyG]

I was wondering if Houston will be getting a new MundoFOX station since it's now The Third largest Hispanic TV Market?

 

[Tim-In-Houston]

They're close to signing a deal with an affiliate, soon, in Houston and New York according tothis article..

They've already signed with someone in Dallas. It could be FOX4, but unless Newscorp is really getting into the multi-cast game, probably not. B&C reports that the Accuweather Channel is coming to Fox O&Os in markets (including DFW) where that company isn't already partnered with a broadcast outlet.

 

[kevin120]

They're close to signing a deal with an affiliate, soon, in Houston and New York according tothis article..

They've already signed with someone in Dallas. It could be FOX4, but unless Newscorp is really getting into the multi-cast game, probably not. B&C reports that the Accuweather Channel is coming to Fox O&Os in markets (including DFW) where that company isn't already partnered with a broadcast outlet.

I don't think that B&C article is accurate because North Texas (DFW) already has an accuweather channel on WFAA 8.2 which replaced their local news and weather forecast now it is Accuweather and a regional Radar that goes back and forth with a L bar that has weather information

 

[JHBrandt]

major network affiliates seem not to want to mix subchannels with different languages.

Maybe that's a Dallas thing.
In Austin ABC, CBS and PBS have Spanish language subchannels.
In San Antonio NBC, CBS and PBS have Spanish language subchannels.

You're probably right. I could see it happening more often in two cases:
1. Markets with a higher proportion of Hispanic viewers than DFW (DFW has a lot but I suspect San Antonio has more)
2. Smaller markets with fewer total stations (e.g., Tyler/Longview)

DFW does have some stations with both English and Spanish subchannels - just not the major network affiliates. If MundoFOX comes to 4.2, that would change.

 

[purpledevil]

major network affiliates seem not to want to mix subchannels with different languages.

Maybe that's a Dallas thing.
In Austin ABC, CBS and PBS have Spanish language subchannels.
In San Antonio NBC, CBS and PBS have Spanish language subchannels.

You're probably right. I could see it happening more often in two cases:
1. Markets with a higher proportion of Hispanic viewers than DFW (DFW has a lot but I suspect San Antonio has more)
2. Smaller markets with fewer total stations (e.g., Tyler/Longview)

DFW does have some stations with both English and Spanish subchannels - just not the major network affiliates. If MundoFOX comes to 4.2, that would change.

Houston is the same as Dallas. KPRC (NBC) has This TV on .2, KHOU (CBS) has Bounce on .2 and KTRK (ABC) has Live Well on .2 and .3. Now, KPRC did have LATV on .3 but that has since moved to independent KYAZ-51.6 and 2.3 has gone dark.