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Musical improvement at The Bone

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MikeShannon914

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Sounds a 1000% better than before. More variety, more depth, better imaging, and draws music from more years and more artists. They might finally be a real contender against KZPS in a few books...? I've actually been able to tune in and leave it on there for several songs at a time...first time since early 2002. A drastic improvement over Susquehanna's attempt to make a legit classic rock station.
 
Gosh...I'm sorry I didn't tune in to The Bone when I was up there for the TRHoF soiree. It was good seeing you again, by the way. Is it true that, while at the event, Ross Perot asked you to be his running mate in 2008??? ;)
 
I still think the Bone sucks! Change the format while you still can. Bo & Jim rocks
 
Only thing they have going well at the Bone are the Bone Babes, one of which I know personally...
 
I agree. The music has improved. If you're a classic rock fan in Dallas, you can usually find a halfway decent song by flipping between the Bone and KZPS. That's a luxury these days. Besides Country and Talk, corporate radio rarely dares to directly compete with the other corporate guy across the street. Corporate usually seeks the path of least resistance and is content to fence off a format that may overlap with another station or two--but won't directly compete at its core.

But back to the Bone specifically: My main complaint is that it has too much bass compared with other stations in town. Since I do like me some bass, the Bone's extra bass always produces a muddy swath across the low end on my radio. So I have to adjust the EQ if I'm going to listen to a Bone song. It's a pain I'd rather not have to deal with.
 
The Bone sounds..flat. The highs and lows are neglible. The seperation is very weak. The music selection,well, it really hasn't changed much. I am still hearing the only Cream song in their library "white room", and of course like KZPS, "ALL BOSTON ALLTHE TIME" The engineer needs to work on their sound and The Music director needs t o add more to the library.
 
Re: Musical improvement at The Bone What?!

Mike, It's great that you support the station you work for but I would'nt call a station where the some of the top songs played last week were
Mississipi Queen Mountain
Jump Van Halen
I'm Bad, I'm Nationwide Z Z Top
Money Pink Floyd
and
Sweet Home Alabama Lynryd Skynryd
as a station that "Sounds Better".
Even though it will never happen let's at least still try to ask a little more from our Classic Rock Stations.
 
Re: Musical improvement at The Bone What?!

cartertimm said:
Mike, It's great that you support the station you work for but I would'nt call a station where the some of the top songs played last week were
Mississipi Queen Mountain
Jump Van Halen
I'm Bad, I'm Nationwide Z Z Top
Money Pink Floyd
and
Sweet Home Alabama Lynryd Skynryd
as a station that "Sounds Better".
Even though it will never happen let's at least still try to ask a little more from our Classic Rock Stations.
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Ditto---- that kind of song selection is not for Music Lovers.......

That kind of song selection is for lovers of "Hit" music, because it's a hit, it AM Top 40.... which was where FM was going away from, initially.

Also, that kind of song selection is "high-class" background music for a whole plethora of people..... that are primarily doing something else -- listening to great rock music is --not-- there primary goal.

As I have stated before..... there is a whole lot of Baby-Boomers that would love to, as a Primary function --- listen to great rock music. Thay are not as big as the unwashed masses that simply settle for some cool "background" music. The only time the unswashed masses actively listen to one of these stations is --not-- when the "music" is being played, but when the crass comedy is being delivered.

A class rock music station in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area would have many people actively listening, primarily for the music. Now that requires class, and that wouldn't put as much money into the corporation as dragging the bottom of the barrel [Playing the hits above to the exclusion of all of the other great rock music already on record].....

Face it.... these hit radio oufits exist, not to please "Music" fans..... but to please their advertisers, who think it's really great to appeal to the masses desire for crass humor, contests, and promotions, with that familiar "background music".
 
SmokeRing said:
I agree. The music has improved. If you're a classic rock fan in Dallas, you can usually find a halfway decent song by flipping between the Bone and KZPS. That's a luxury these days. Besides Country and Talk, corporate radio rarely dares to directly compete with the other corporate guy across the street. Corporate usually seeks the path of least resistance and is content to fence off a format that may overlap with another station or two--but won't directly compete at its core.

But back to the Bone specifically: My main complaint is that it has too much bass compared with other stations in town. Since I do like me some bass, the Bone's extra bass always produces a muddy swath across the low end on my radio. So I have to adjust the EQ if I'm going to listen to a Bone song. It's a pain I'd rather not have to deal with.
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Want to hear good audio? 94.9 KLTY. Going back to Jon Rivers to today. Nicely compressed good agc control, great seperation and eq. Wolf is pretty ggod but thats about it. Best audio i think i ever heard in dallas was the Oasis back in the mid/late 80's and KLTY late 80's until about 96. KLTY has mastered the digital sound. Oasis didn't. KVIL in the late 80's early 90's sounded superb.
 
CARTERTIMM ;Mike doesn't work there. He has too much on his plate doing traffic for WBAP and Traffic for Ch.8.

In regards to your comment about the music selection, you and Rover have mentioned. We agree slightly. There was nothing wrong with the songs you mentioned. They were popular on the "progressive rock/Underground" FM stations in the 70's. Perhaps you want to hear some more 80's. No prob there,but they were pretty commercial as well:
Springsteen,Sting, Haircut 100,Flock of Seagulls, and yes Metallica,etc.
Some music holds up, some don't. I think the playlist should be expanded and stop this high repetition of certain songs. Hel lit fyou got tpo KZPS its allBoston all the Time, The Bone is "All Cars" all the time. Both Love to play "Rock and Roll Hootchie Coo" or " All Right Now" to death. Not to mention any Aerosmith they can find handy. I would like to hear some deeper cuts at times,but make sure it has some type of beat, rhythm and not just an album filler. The Bone sound is flat. The Best sound I heard so far( subject to change) is KLUV.
 
I was being sarcastic with him working at the Bone. (If he does work at Channel 8, let's here about Hansen leaving McCain "out to dry" on live TV!)

The point was the Bone is playing the SAME songs! Over and Over. I understand they need to play hits and they still could if they expand past the top 100 songs that test well for Cumulus nationally. Hey, The "Godfather" is one of my favorite movies but I don't want to see it twice a day. There is NO reason a classic rock station needs to play the same song twice a day.
 
Go to your local watering hole and see what the 39 year old Mr. Blue Jean Jacket is playing on the jukebox. Chances are it's gonna be Bob Seger, Skynyrd, and AC/DC. I know there is room for more depth on classic rock stations...but this ain't 1976. PEople won't sit thru crap to wait on their fav. song.
 
It's the program consultant formula. Play the most familiar music. It'll be good for a share or two with very little effort. But to do much more, there will have to be some creativity; some way to add some spice to the meat and potatos. That doesn't mean putting the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah band into regular rotation, but it sure would be nice to hear some Peter Green once in a while. Maybe some Commander Cody, or a choice Grateful Dead cut?
One morning I heard Bo and Jim play a track from ZZ Top's first album, and ever since I've been checking them out, to see what nugget might turn up. It takes some work to maintain a fresh music list, and it means taking a chance now and then, but there has to be some "There" there to get active listeners.
Jon Dillon plays the same old same old most of the time, but somehow I get a sense he cares about the music. That's what keeps me coming back. I rarely stay, but sometimes I do.
 
The thing that I would love to see either KZPS or The Bone do is actually think outside of the box for a bit and play the bands that we have all come to grow to love, but go deeper into the artists library and find some of the *B* sides. I love Zepplin, Sabbath, ZZ Top, Styx and a whole slew of others, but why can't I tune into a radio station to get deeper cuts & *inhales sharply* information on them as well as the current news and weather situations?

This is what ran me away from radio originally and the reason for the explosion in my CD and mp3 files.

Come on powers that be, just a little tiny bit outside the box!
 
Several good points. Just why do The Bone and KZPS have to listen to their regional vp's of programming besides to stay on the payroll. Wouldn't success and better ratings cover that? Either one should have a decision maker in charge who knows the area,grew up in the region,etc. Scaliwags and carpet Baggers should stay at home. Texas is not only home to good country music for decades,but it was there at the birth of rock and Roll and still maintains its pace. The problem is flawed research devoid of innovation,not willing to try a new direction,and going to venues where the true music listener is,not some corporate sponsor,we are the host station ,we already play them concerts. I am talking about rock and roll clubs,blues venues,etc. Hell thats where your pioneers from the Beatles to the stones to ZZ Topp first started out. It will never change at these places because it is constantly being fresh. In comparision KZPS,and The Bone grow stale faster than bread. Music has a passion,the two stations do not. Its assembly line homoginized consultant base goop with no flavoring,no color,no personality, no innovation expected to be digested by the average listener who desires and demands something better.It's called the basics, and its something worth returning to.
 
klifhanger said:
Several good points. Just why do The Bone and KZPS have to listen to their regional vp's of programming besides to stay on the payroll. Wouldn't success and better ratings cover that? Either one should have a decision maker in charge who knows the area,grew up in the region,etc. Scaliwags and carpet Baggers should stay at home. Texas is not only home to good country music for decades,but it was there at the birth of rock and Roll and still maintains its pace. The problem is flawed research devoid of innovation,not willing to try a new direction,and going to venues where the true music listener is,not some corporate sponsor,we are the host station ,we already play them concerts. I am talking about rock and roll clubs,blues venues,etc. Hell thats where your pioneers from the Beatles to the stones to ZZ Topp first started out. It will never change at these places because it is constantly being fresh. In comparision KZPS,and The Bone grow stale faster than bread. Music has a passion,the two stations do not. Its assembly line homoginized consultant base goop with no flavoring,no color,no personality, no innovation expected to be digested by the average listener who desires and demands something better.It's called the basics, and its something worth returning to.
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Goop?? I'm looking that word up right now :D
 
I hate to point out the obvious, but popular music is popular music for a reason - most people like it.

I like rock. I like classic rock. I don't particularly care for B sides that I've never heard before. I don't want to be "challenged" musically. If anyone was playing Cream B sides, I'd be outta there - quick.

Granted, the libraries could be bigger - but the last thing I want to hear is songs that never made it back in the day!
 
Hey El Cheapo. Let's get to the point. Let's take your argument of hit music. I'll give that to you. But in the classic rock world don't you think there is more hits than 400. In the 40 years they play from there is only 400 songs the Bone can play!?!?!?!?!?!? Again there is NO REASON if you are playing even HIT MUSIC from the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's THAT YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE SAME CLASSIC SONG TWICE IN ONE DAY!!!!!!
Even the most Hit fan would know more than the SAME 400 songs they have been playing for the past 3 years
 
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