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NBC5 Finalizes Plans for New Fort Worth Studios

There hasn't been a TV transmitter on Goat Roper Hill in decades. The 1200' tower you see was purchased by a Ft. Worth two-way radio dealer YEARS ago, and is still used for that purpose.

The old KXTX TV-39 building at Harry Hines and Oak Lawn in Dallas has not been occupied in forever. Telemundo TV-39 (and other than the NBC5 local newscast) KXAS TV-5 in general for the most part are not much more than transmitters fed by a bunch of servers. With little exception, EVERYTHING is controlled by "HUB" in Florida. "HUB" is a centralized NBC broadcast operations facility that controls all programming for a great many NBC O&Os. If a local advertiser desires to run a spot on NBC5, they have to get it to "HUB" first. And Gawd-forbid the 10:00 pm news run over a 2 seconds..."HUB" will cut them off in order t clear Leno on time!

And when "HUB" hiccups....EVERYBODY hiccups! You thought things were only bad in RADIO!!! :)

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Why are they moving? I have seen the current facility from satellite
shots and it looks usable to me. BTW, is that their XMTR just behind
the building? (Near the expressway-30)



Old Chicago
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OldChicago said:
Why are they moving? I have seen the current facility from satellite
shots and it looks usable to me. BTW, is that their XMTR just behind
the building? (Near the expressway-30)

Old Chicago

For a fascinating in-depth article from 1953 about the "state-of-the-art" facilities of Broadcast Hill (with loads of pictures), click here and scroll to page 18:
http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-RCA-Broadcast-News/RCA-76.pdf

Several of the photos show the original 502 foot tower directly adjacent the building that carried WBAP-TV. The article mentions plans to build a new 1113 foot tower by 1954 to triple WBAP-TV's coverage area. That tower is 1000 feet away from the building and still stands today.

WBAP-TV moved to the original Hill Tower in Cedar Hill in September 1964 at the "strong" urging of NBC, which was concerned about the network's unequal coverage of the market. Despite owner Amon Carter's disdain for having anything about his stations associated with Dallas, NBC finally convinced him to join KRLD-TV [4] and WFAA-TV [8] on the Hill Tower after allegedly threatening to move its affiliation to then-independent KTVT [11] if he didn't agree to the move.
 
Huff said:
Several of the photos show the original 502 foot tower directly adjacent the building that carried WBAP-TV. The article mentions plans to build a new 1113 foot tower by 1954 to triple WBAP-TV's coverage area. That tower is 1000 feet away from the building and still stands today.

Thanks for the link; it had been a few years since I had seen that one. It's really interesting how they could claim to have coverage of all of Fort Worth and Dallas with a 500 foot tower and 16.4kW! They didn't, and even when they upped it to maximum ERP with a taller tower the signal was still marginal over much of Dallas.

Huff said:
Despite owner Amon Carter's disdain for having anything about his stations associated with Dallas, NBC finally convinced him to join KRLD-TV [4] and WFAA-TV [8] on the Hill Tower after allegedly threatening to move its affiliation to then-independent KTVT [11] if he didn't agree to the move.

From what I've heard over the years KTVT came very close to getting the NBC affiliation.
 
jd said:
Huff said:
Several of the photos show the original 502 foot tower directly adjacent the building that carried WBAP-TV. The article mentions plans to build a new 1113 foot tower by 1954 to triple WBAP-TV's coverage area. That tower is 1000 feet away from the building and still stands today.

Thanks for the link; it had been a few years since I had seen that one. It's really interesting how they could claim to have coverage of all of Fort Worth and Dallas with a 500 foot tower and 16.4kW! They didn't, and even when they upped it to maximum ERP with a taller tower the signal was still marginal over much of Dallas.

Huff said:
Despite owner Amon Carter's disdain for having anything about his stations associated with Dallas, NBC finally convinced him to join KRLD-TV [4] and WFAA-TV [8] on the Hill Tower after allegedly threatening to move its affiliation to then-independent KTVT [11] if he didn't agree to the move.

From what I've heard over the years KTVT came very close to getting the NBC affiliation.

You are correct about NBC pushing the issue with Carter.
Carter was convinced that the Dallas and Fort Worth area should be two TV markets (the way radio was at the time) - not one.
NBC knew this was impractical and insisted that he move the transmitter to an area that would cover both Dallas and Fort Worth - or else.
He agreed, but really didn't like it.

Other fun fact: when the big affiliation switch took place in the mid-90's, Lin broadcasting (KXAS' owner at the time) was heavily courted by CBS. They seriously considered changing affiliations at the time before NBC stepped in to sweeten their deal with KXAS and the other Lin stations. However, NBC also had some preliminary talks with KTVT about affiliating with them. We could have had a very different TV landscape than we do now if just a few decisions had been made differently,
 
Does anybody else suspect that the new studios might, in the long run, end up proving to be a huge financial folly for Channel 5/NBC?

Here is why I think it might be: My guess is that television stations - not just terrestrial but cable as well - will follow newspapers into a long decline towards eventual extinction. How much of the programing on Channel 5 and other stations is prerecorded? Most of it. And once such programing becomes available on-demand, what will be the point of bothering to tune in on the "real time" playback/broadcast? With on-demand, people will be able to tune into any program they want whenever it is convenient for them - and be able to catch up on as many back episodes as they wish as well. The only programing likely to remain relevant in an old fashioned "real time" television format will be that which necessarily must be live such as sporting events and breaking news. But that is a small percentage of the programming that is currently on television.

This is going to impact both local stations as well as national networks. In the past, those who produced programing HAD to first get past the "gatekeepers" at the networks and cable channels in order to deliver their product to an audience. If everything goes on-demand - what is the point of an organization such as NBC? Why not just deliver the product to one's audience directly - or use third party distributors such as itunes or Amazon? Perhaps companies such as NBC will be able to find productive ways to insert themselves into the process to everybody's benefit. But, if so, it will be a radically different world than what they are doing today.

All of this, of course, will not happen overnight. There are still areas of the country that still do not have the residential bandwidth necessary to make on-demand practical - and while that's the case, they will continue to rely on terrestrial and satellite programing. And, even where bandwidth is available, it takes time for people's habits to change. But can anybody deny the following two points - that broadcast/cable television is a shrinking pie and that nobody knows with any degree of certainty what the technological/distribution landscape is going to be like in 10 or 20 years?

A new facility is an expensive, long-term investment. Does it make sense to sink money into such long-term investments in a technology/industry that is in decline and which will be required to transition to a not yet fully discovered new business model in the not too distant future? In many industries, if one invests in new technology, one had better be prepared to get a fairly quick return on investment simply because it will likely be obsolete and in need of an upgrade in three or so years.

I understand that there are operational savings that can be realized by having a single centralized location. But how long will it take for those to offset the costs of a new facility verses having an already bought and paid for facility - and can Channel 5 count on having that time? And if the cumulative extra driving expenses/man hours to Dallas/Collin Counties from its East Side studio versus the Amon Carter Drive location is so expensive, there is a glut of warehouse type buildings in the Dallas area that can be leased cheap. Not very glamorous perhaps - but viewers don't know or care.

Perhaps there are factors that I haven't considered that cause the whole thing to make sense. But, offhand, it strikes me as making about as much sense as the Morning News or Star-Telegram dropping a ton of money on building brand new fancy, state-of-the-art facilities - when, in fact, it is an open question as to how long they will still be around and in what form. It makes me suspect that it might be ego driven or some sort of pursuit of corporate prestige. Ego and prestige can be very expensive masters - and I can think of two companies here in Fort Worth that learned that lesson the hard way: Radio Shack and Pier One. Both built very impressive, expensive and showy headquarter buildings in or near downtown. And as soon as they moved in, the companies found themselves in financial trouble and having to fight for survival. Both of them ended up selling the buildings within a very short time - Radio Shack's headquarters is now a junior college and Pier One's was purchased by Chesapeake Energy. Had they instead spent such money on areas more crucial to the business, perhaps they would have been in better shape.

Is Channel 5 perhaps making a similar mistake on a bit smaller scale? Would they be better off using that money instead to perhaps figure out a more viable long term business model or save it for potentially tough times ahead?
 
There may be some mistake(s) involved. It's been said in the articles about the move, though, that not only is 5 and 39 moving, but there will be other NBC Universal operations/properties housed there (internet? cable? the NBC News local bureau?). So it won't be 100% a TV station. Time will tell if NBC-U/Comcrap is throwing money away, but it's early yet. Only the dirt has turned. They haven't had much of a chance yet to stick their financial/broadcasting foot in their mouth.
 
317C50KW said:
For a fascinating in-depth article from 1953 about the "state-of-the-art" facilities of Broadcast Hill (with loads of pictures), click here and scroll to page 18:
http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-RCA-Broadcast-News/RCA-76.pdf


The cover of that issue of Broadcast News is very cool. Most of them were.

That is a fascinating magazine and article, especially the aerial shot of the 3900 Barnett St. studios (before Barnett St. existed) with downtown Fort Worth in the background and NO Interstate 30!
 
Dismuke makes a good point.

But TV tech facilities are nothing like they were 10-15-20 years ago. With everything server based/computerized/robotic the foot print of a TV broadcast facility can be much smaller. And NBC5 doesn't do much in the way of local origination besides news anyway.

I think the graphics hub for the NBCU OandO stations are at the Fort Worth offices. It's long known that the commercials come out of Miami.

I'm certain NBCU/Comcast will put that space to good use for their national operations.
 
317C50KW said:
Dismuke makes a good point.

But TV tech facilities are nothing like they were 10-15-20 years ago. With everything server based/computerized/robotic the foot print of a TV broadcast facility can be much smaller. And NBC5 doesn't do much in the way of local origination besides news anyway.

I think the graphics hub for the NBCU OandO stations are at the Fort Worth offices. It's long known that the commercials come out of Miami.

I'm certain NBCU/Comcast will put that space to good use for their national operations.

I wonder how many HUBS does NBC have.

Old Chicago
 
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