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Neal Boortz Comments

I carry. I am not interested in looking for trouble or hurting anyone. However, I refuse to be a victim. If you put me in a position where it is my life or yours, it will be yours. I am a damn good shot with my old Sig P6, so please, let’s just pass each other and live for another day.

This is my interpretation of what Boortz said.

Everyone is aware that Ed Schultz aired a edited version of Boortz’s original statement leaving out a critical sentence which stirred the pot?
 
The edited out portion was where Neal talked about acting in self-defense. Without that part it sounded like he was just talking about seeking out Thugs to kill.
 
After posting, I went searching for "What was edited out?" and came across some detail.

Let's face it. People who are familiar with Boortz and his style are likely to fall into two camps:

(1)Those who are his fans and love what he says and hear it with favorable vibrations

(2)Those who are NOT his fans and recoil at what he says and hear it with dissonant vibrations.

I looked at the articles that I was able to pull up that filled in the missing sentence. I personally was not impressed that the missing sentence meant that much difference in what he said.

When you look at the whole quote and the edited quote on paper without the human voice inflections, it looks like a great injustice was done to Boortz.

One site also printed out a lengthy sentence that supposedly preceded what the clip that Schulz played contained. (Understand, I don't fully trust Internet sites that I don't know, so the preface statement quoted may or may not be accurate.) IF, great BIG "IF" in large bold capital letters: IF the lead-up statement which was NOT quoted was accurate, then the lead-up statement is TEN TIMES more damning than the missing statement is redemptive as far as evaluating Boortz.

When you listen to the audio of what Boortz supposedly said (as edited) and you listen to the tone of voice, the inflections, I conclude it didn't much matter whether the missing words were there or not. (But, I am a prejudiced evaluator when it comes to trying to understand Boortz.)

The human voice is a very robust form of communication. Radio USED to know that. Today so much of radio voice is pasteurized, homogenized, sanitized, compressed, limited and molded to the point we forget how wonderful and revealing and communicating the voice can be!

This thread is about Boortz but the implication on this thread is that Schultz is actually the BAD GUY in this drama because he edited a clip and put it out there as reality. And that is NOT a good view of Schultz. If Schultz edited out the preface and edited out the sentence in the middle, he may have thought he was simply giving us a simple, clean picture of Boortz. The back and forth of this thread demonstrates that Schultz looks very bad in the eyes of those who agree with Boortz.

All of us are reminded that you have to take every talk show with a grain of salt.... or drain off the salt-brine the talker has soaked his/her opinions in.
 
Here. Read for yourselves.

http://tinyurl.com/5wsdovs

I live in Brookhaven and you guys would be surprised just how many murders have been comitted over the past twenty years per the DCPD crime documentation in my area. Really helped my lower my property taxes. In my area the problem is Hispanic gang and drug activity.

I carry. Think before you mess with me or heaven forbid my family.
 
I'm not defending Schultz by any means, but let's be honest, it's not he first time a talk radio host (or even TV, for that matter) has aired an audio clip and omitted a piece of information. Again...i'm not defending him, nor am i suggesting that if someone else does it, he can do it too. What I am saying is that this is not a new concept..this is a way to maintain listener ship and maybe gain new ones. In this case, both Ed and Neil likely manged to retain their listeners and gain new ones.

People love outrage. People LOVE it when they have an opportunity to be mad about something..especially something that accommodates their viewpoints and ideals..and they hate it when some outrage puts their ideals in the spotlight of the damned.

Me thinks it's just part of human nature to want to be at odds, argue and fight about anything...even if it's something that should be taken with a grain of salt.
 
It is ok to carry and be responsible with your gun when your life is threatened this is only common sense ...When you make stupid comments that incite violence with out ryme or reason then you are simply a thug such as NEAL BOORTZ is. ;D
 
Here's how I view this whole mess.

The problem as I see it isn't black, white, Latino, Asian, Polish, whatever. Crap comes in all colors. The underlying problem is A) Poverty - It's grown a LOT. Recently. and - pay attention - B) The corrections system in general. They've literally become free colleges, universities, hotels and restaurants for career criminals. It's literally at the very point where many kids aren't dreaming of college, career goals, family and the average good things in life. But an inevitable life of crime. Some are actually TRYING to get into prison (take the guy who robbed a bank for a dollar to get free health care.)

Like Bob Dylan said, if you got nothing, you have nothing to lose. And that's dangerous to American civilization. When you're building far more prisons than colleges, that's not good.

Even overall good, salvageable people are willing to go to extreme measures out of desperation. When they get into this system, they are taught things they would NEVER have learned outside the prison walls. They come out 100 times worse than when they came in. They even get so used to the routine inside jail system that when they get out, they find that A) They can't find a job - because of their record. Or even a place to live. In prison, they had it all. So what do they have to lose? They go back for another few years and back out they come, 200 times worse than when they came in. And here we go again.

Most gangs get their marching orders from their imprisoned leaders.

And who PAYS for THAT?

What breaks my heart is watching a non violent offender get into the system (Mandatory minimum sentences for petty drug offenses, etc). And then come out a violent offender. The person is ruined for life. Merely a disgustingly tattooed shell of their former selves.

Talk about unsustainable.

A lot of talk show hosts won't address this simple fact. Not when your stock and trade is "shock and entertain" Finding REAL solutions isn't very good for ratings. It's easier to scare people into buying guns, gold schemes and freeze dried food for the "impending, inevitable and unavoidable collapse" than find a way to do something about this

If you want to cut crime, start with the correctional system. Because it's broken beyond repair. And there's NOTHING "correctional" about it anymore......
 
WhatDoIKnow said:
Here. Read for yourselves.

http://Please use the regular URL

I live in Brookhaven and you guys would be surprised just how many murders have been comitted over the past twenty years per the DCPD crime documentation in my area. Really helped my lower my property taxes. In my area the problem is Hispanic gang and drug activity.

I carry. Think before you mess with me or heaven forbid my family.

Knowing the Buford Hwy area well, I have to wonder whether or not real estate "steering" practices (and developers during the real estate bubble) had something to do with the rapid white flight in this area.

Regarding Boortz, not only is he in SW Florida most of the time, it's my understanding that he traded his Atlanta house for a high-rise condo not too long ago. So, the chances of Atlanta thugs, wannabe's, or miscreants effecting Neil's life or property values are slim to none.
 
He was not advocating violence against inocent people,he was talking about law abiding citzens defendig themselves against these losers who make life miserable for the rest of us. A thug is a thug no matter what color.
 
RhubarbFan said:
He was not advocating violence against inocent people,he was talking about law abiding citzens defendig themselves against these losers who make life miserable for the rest of us. A thug is a thug no matter what color.

You heard him say something that to you is very plain, logical and comfortable to you. You heard what you wanted to hear.

Others in this conversation heard him say something they find convoluted, not in keeping with their view of civil thinking, and very discomforting. They heard what they DID NOT want to hear.

As I am fond of saying, This 200+ year experiment in self-government is not always comfortable and easy to live with and to re-fit it to changing times.

My hero may be your thug. My thug may be your hero. Some days self-government gets just down-right messy... as demonstrated by the twists and turns this thread has taken.

The fact that you may agree with Boortz does not does not make him right, the fact that I may disagree with Boortz does not make him wrong.

As we have done for 200+ years, we will eventually work our way through and come up with public policy on how we deal with thugs in our day and time. And as thugs evolve, our public policy will evolve.
 
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