New 93.3 morning show

[MikeShannon914]

I can tell you one thing...I've seen "them" firsthand, and they are quite impressive! ;D and definitely a

Quite a "gift" presented at a long-ago Christmas party...thanks, Channing!! ;D

 

[TheRover]

I also see why jocks are given a playlist, you can't have jocks playing the same stuff shift to shift.

Why not make a list of "not these" instead of "only these"? Or better yet, set up the computer program to not allow a song to be played more than once in a given amount of time?

GrayWolf, that's exactly what I was going to recommend and ask......

The point is not "Are we going to play Van Halen's "Dance The Night Away" two shifts in a row........ The point is, why play sugar pop-rock like that in the first place, when a "Rocks Harder" station like The Bone, ought to be playing the Van Halen that Rocks Harder....

And that's where the suggestions come in. There are actually Hard Rock songs by Van Halen worth listening to, that were not released as videos or singles. Since most in the industry mainly know about the hits and singles and videos, then that's where an informed listener (there are a few of us out here) can offer suggestions.

But, don't play it just because I asked. Heck No!! Listen to the requested songs for yourself. If you think "Dance The Night Away" Rocks Harder than "The Full Bug" or "Romeo's Delight" for example.... then play "Dance The Night Away" instead. But.... if you listen to ANY requested song that kicks butt, even though the Record Company didn't deem it worthy of a single or video.... then you owe your listeners to play it.

Your Bosses should have enough trust in your discernement of what Rocks Harder to allow you that freedom. And that's where current radio fails. ONLY playing the Hits and the Singles, as if that is satisfying.

No Trust.

"Dance The Night Away" with the teeny-boppers.... I will hold out for Hard Rock, and I don't really care if Heavy Metal gets played or not.... that's what Z-Rock was for..

 

[Robert Bass]

Rover,

Jock freedom as you described, ended decades ago and it ain't coming back. In that day, jocks tended to abuse the freedom. They'd overplay songs they personally liked, hid the records for songs they hated and even brought in music from their personal collection (much of which didn't usually fit the station's format to begin with).

Repeatedly bringing the same argument about what rocks harder, to the table, is a waste of time. We have repeatedly advised you that it is a subjective issue. If "any" station in this market felt like they could do what you are asking, they likely would have done it by now. There is a reason why most stations stay with the "hits", and it is because they are smart enough to know their demographic expects "familiar" music. Playing deep cut / non charted material is a death wish to commercial radio.

R

 

[Channing1969]

I can tell you one thing...I've seen "them" firsthand, and they are quite impressive! ;D and definitely a

Quite a "gift" presented at a long-ago Christmas party...thanks, Channing!! ;D

LMAO....and the look on your face was PRICELESS!!

 

[Channing1969]

See? It's Channing's over-the-top exuberance and devotion to her faithful listeners that make her the BEST....DJ....EVER!

Thanks for the offer! Maybe someday I'll get you to sign my 2003 Bone calendar, where it's always November.

(Oh, and where did this line come from all of a sudden? )

Send it to me and I'll sign it for you!

 

[GRAYWOLF]

brought in music from their personal collection (much of which didn't usually fit the station's format to begin with).

I seem to remember Johnny Fever doing that!

 

[Robert Bass]

brought in music from their personal collection (much of which didn't usually fit the station's format to begin with).

I seem to remember Johnny Fever doing that!

Life imitates art, art imitates life.

R

 

[GRAYWOLF]

I can tell you one thing...I've seen "them" firsthand, and they are quite impressive! ;D and definitely a

Quite a "gift" presented at a long-ago Christmas party...thanks, Channing!! ;D

Like Ron White said, "once you've seen one pair.....You want to see the rest!"

 

[Robert Bass]

Ya know... as much as I hate to admit it, this thread has turned into its own little morning show.

R

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Channing put me on your Christmas Card list. Please promise me you'll visit my chimney

 

[Channing1969]

Hahhaaaa....I promise!

 

[Robert Bass]

Assuming Plex hasn't been, nor plans to be naughty this year?

R

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Channing likes naughtyness

 

[Robert Bass]

OK a little reverse psychology then...

"Unless Plex has been and continues to remain nice, this year?"

There, let's see how you get out of this one! ;D ;D ;D

R

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

and ruin my image??

 

[Robert Bass]

and ruin my image??

Your image, or your reputation? What's that old Country hit... "You're going to ruin' my bad reputation"...

Paying attention here, Channing?

R

 

[TheRover]

Ya know... as much as I hate to admit it, this thread has turned into its own little morning show.

R

By only playing the familiar hits, you attepmt to debunk the very reason FM Rock radio got its start. After a thousand lectures, I will still believe in what original FM Rock radio did, in response to the familiar AM Hits routine.

SO WHO GETS TO DECIDE WHAT'S GOING TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THE REPEATED RADIO AIRPLAY IN THE FIRST PLACE ? ? ?

It used to be the listeners, with their requests that helped to decide what was worth playing and what wasn't worth playing in the first place. Now, it's the corporations making all of those inital deceisions.

Typical CON-sultant question: "Which of these songs that We have chosen to play repeatedly are you most comfortable with ? ?"

In your Orwellian World, this tranlates to "Freedom of Choice" !

But you are deciding what listeners are going to be familiar with in the first place.

And that's where as a listener, that thinks outside of 'your' box... that the familiar choices you offer, are muscially inadaquate.

And now.... back to Morning Show.... where T&A Rule the Corporate Day !!

 

[Robert Bass]

Ya know... as much as I hate to admit it, this thread has turned into its own little morning show.

R

By only playing the familiar hits, you attepmt to debunk the very reason FM Rock radio got its start. After a thousand lectures, I will still believe in what original FM Rock radio did, in response to the familiar AM Hits routine.

SO WHO GETS TO DECIDE WHAT'S GOING TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THE REPEATED RADIO AIRPLAY IN THE FIRST PLACE ? ? ?

It used to be the listeners, with their requests that helped to decide what was worth playing and what wasn't worth playing in the first place. Now, it's the corporations making all of those inital deceisions.

Typical CON-sultant question: "Which of these songs that We have chosen to play repeatedly are you most comfortable with ? ?"

In your Orwellian World, this tranlates to "Freedom of Choice" !

But you are deciding what listeners are going to be familiar with in the first place.

And that's where as a listener, that thinks outside of 'your' box... that the familiar choices you offer, are muscially inadaquate.

And now.... back to Morning Show.... where T&A Rule the Corporate Day !!

I was referring to the "making out" content as "morning show" material, not your desire for music few have ever heard of or care about.

R

 

[davideduardo]

By only playing the familiar hits, you attepmt to debunk the very reason FM Rock radio got its start. After a thousand lectures, I will still believe in what original FM Rock radio did, in response to the familiar AM Hits routine.

Have you ever considered that what got FM rock radio started was the FCC decree that after 1967 FM's could no longer simulcast AM sister staitons?

Try to look at it this way: Lots of AM listeners towards the end of the 60's liked Jefferson Airplane better than Brooklyn Bridge and Otis Redding and The Archies. When rock and only rock appeared on FM, they went there, despite the fact that they didn't like many of the songs... but at least the stiffs were rock stiffs. And they weren't Anne Murray and 1910 Fruitgum Company.

Then, when Lee Abrams brought a Superstars album rock station to town, playing more hits, less "deep stiffs"... er, deep cuts... those progressive staitons just vanished. Because nearly all people like familiar music more than unfamiliar music, and they don't like too much of the unfamiliar, no matter what the format.

SO WHO GETS TO DECIDE WHAT'S GOING TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THE REPEATED RADIO AIRPLAY IN THE FIRST PLACE ? ? ?

It used to be the listeners, with their requests that helped to decide what was worth playing and what wasn't worth playing in the first place. Now, it's the corporations making all of those inital deceisions.

Very few stations used requests, even that far back, for anygthing except guidance on trending. Most PDs realize that owning a telphone does not qualify a listener to program the station, even for 4 minutes. Besides, most requests are for the song that the jock on the air is tired of playing, because it takes eons for a new song to become familiar, and when we were on the air once or twice a shift, and were tired of it in a month or so, the listener was barely familiar with it by that time.

Very few calls come in for new music a station is not playing. It's the opposite. PDs and MDs look for new songs that fit a station's sound and feel, and try them on the air. If listeners start liking them after weeks of airplay, then they get requests.

But you are deciding what listeners are going to be familiar with in the first place.

It's always been that way. Listeners are reactive, not proactive. Only today, with new ways to discover music, can stations find out about a hit in other ways than by being the first to play a song. But the monitors, like number of downloads, have new names... yet it is the same as when we got jukebox spins and sales from the rack jobber.

And that's where as a listener, that thinks outside of 'your' box... that the familiar choices you offer, are muscially inadaquate.

Very few listeners want anything other than familiar songs that they enjoy. If you don't believe that, get someone to show you the PPM minute by minute results in Philly or Houston against the Mediabase tracking for the same hour and minute... the newest songs are the ones that tank the whole station. And that is the listener speaking, not some programmer, consultant or manager.

 

[Robert Bass]

This reminds me of the time I called up a local hit music station, to request a song that I more or less accidently discovered after purchasing a 45 RPM single copy by mistake. Hey it happens, when you're a teenager.

Anyway, I thought the song was brand new, because I had never heard it before. Not surprisingly, the station informed me they had tried it already and found it didn't work. They didn't specifically mention a reason why it didn't work, and I was too naive to ask.

R