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New Brownsburg Radio Station

Im with the poster that thinks Greensburg Kansas would be a good idea, they only have one fm inside the protected contour and its religious. The town is really small and flat, and the dial is very open, a Part 15 would work well there. I would put a CHR/Hot AC hybrid on in the area,, they dont have even a fringe station to listen to for todays best music. Put a CHR format, but keep it local, with local news and weather and all sorts of community events. You could probably easily get volunteers to help you out. I think the little town would definately support the station, it could get a website and stream and probably earn enough advertising dollars to at least break even. The area seems a bit conservative, so the station may have to lean a little more Hot AC and not too rhythmic, but you would want to sound hip enough for the kids, but not alienate the adults.

A Country or Oldies format would probably also work well in Greensburg Kansas.
 
N_D_Radioguy said:
radioindy said:
... which relegates him to a simple internet station.

... goes LIVE when weather gets bad in the area.
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It's these two things that come in conflict with one another.

How is being bascially an Internet station really going to be effective during bad weather? If the power goes out in listeners' homes, how do they [realistically] use the Internet to listen for the weather coverage? That's to say nothing of his own power to operate if he hasn't been able to invest in a quality generator.

I'm not knocking the guy; I truly wish him luck, especially if this can usher in a new era of valuable localism.

I'm simply trying to reconcile those two ideas regarding the efficacy of coverage.
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We've been through several severe storms this year already, and power only went out once on me. Doesn't really matter though, since radio as a whole has pulled out of their civic/legal responsibilities to serve their COLs, we've all come to rely on TV for important information. Radio isn't relevent in life threatening situations anymore.

QUICK QUESTION #1 - In Indianpolis market, what radio station would you tune to when a storm is coming?
ANSWER - I assume WIBC? What else is there? None of the others have anything other than the generic warning. And you better hope IBC isn't in the midst of a syndication program, or even they won't be on other than the horn and the NWS interruption.

QUICK QUESTION #2 - what radio station would you tune to if you're power went out in a storm?
ANSWER - same as above.

What a pity.
 
radioindy said:
QUICK QUESTION #1 - In Indianpolis market, what radio station would you tune to when a storm is coming?
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During the storm last month that destroyed that apt. complex on the Eastside, when my power went out at 11:30 pm the only station on the radio talking about things was ... WRTV, at 88.7.

What a pity.
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Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

jim
 
I'm kind of curious. How does moving your studios from a one bedroom house that used to be a pet shop to an office building in Castleton constitute "Turning your back on your city of license?" What do studios have to do with service?
 
cold_coffee said:
I'm kind of curious. How does moving your studios from a one bedroom house that used to be a pet shop to an office building in Castleton constitute "Turning your back on your city of license?" What do studios have to do with service?
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No one questions your right to go after that declining 3.1 rating. You're free to abandon your COL for plush studios 30 miles from your COL.

BUT, you've been asked SEVERAL times to tell us what YOUR radio station does for Brownsburg, YOUR COL? You won't answer the question. I've NEVER heard WKLU do anything for Hendricks County since you moved it to Castleton. How about YOU explain what YOU do for Brownsburg - YOUR col.

Other than Albro kicking back on a lounge chair, eating hotdogs with some hottie intern promotions director at the Brownsburg Wal-Mart, calling in three times per hour and ringing a bell for donations. Curious how much that raised for 'relief victims' of the floods?
 
mobilene said:
During the storm last month that destroyed that apt. complex on the Eastside, when my power went out at 11:30 pm the only station on the radio talking about things was ... WRTV, at 88.7.
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WRTV at 87.7.

WICR is at 88.7.

I'm not picking on your typo; I just don't want other misguided souls mislead...

fwmw
 
Brownsburg, Avon, and Plainfield have been some of the fastest growing cities in America. Yet no one
who currently holds a license for Hendricks County seems to think the area is deserving of their own radio
station.

Yet here, we have a man who is willing to do it . But, he doesn't have much power at all.
He is abiding by the very limiting FCC rules. I say it is time they go to Senator Lugar. Have
the Senator go to the FCC, and get this guy on FM.
 
Let's take a poll - ask 100 people in Brownsburg (Hendricks County) the main reason they listen to the radio...now, what do you think the number one answer will be????
If you said (((MUSIC))) DING, DING, DING ---------------YOU'RE A WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like WKLU...er, OLDIES 101.9 -------IS------serving their city of license......
 
salespro1 said:
If you said (((MUSIC))) DING, DING, DING ---------------YOU'RE A WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like WKLU...er, OLDIES 101.9 -------IS------serving their city of license......
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This might be true if WKLU 101.9 was the only audible radio signal in Hendricks County.

Repeat the same experiment in Hancock County and see if the majority says "WZPL" since they are a Greenfield, Indiana-licensed town.

Again, this is moot as Hancock County has more signals than 99.5 and Hendricks County has more signals than 101.9.

<sarcasm> Don't even get me started on the AM dial, since everyone listens to FM these days. </sarcasm>

fwmw
 
salespro1 said:
Let's take a poll - ask 100 people in Brownsburg (Hendricks County) the main reason they listen to the radio...now, what do you think the number one answer will be????
If you said (((MUSIC))) DING, DING, DING ---------------YOU'RE A WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like WKLU...er, OLDIES 101.9 -------IS------serving their city of license......
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I agree. WKLU is a great station. People only dislike the owner because he won't hire them, or he has fired them. Funny no one else that works there has a problem.
 
Flying-Dutchman said:
I just couldn't resist checking this one out. Sounds like some golden oldies with Motown sprinkled in.
Not deep cuts of classic rock. I'm sure many in Indy woulld love this if they had more power. You can
hear them on the internet by using this link. http://radiobrownsburg.com/

The FCC is waiting for an act of congress that will open a new LPFM channel in Brownsburg. I am now
offering to assist Shane in Filing the FCC paperwork. I want to see him succeed in bringing service back to the
community.
Bruce Quinn
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I also couldn't resist checking this station out on the web last week. Listened to
their audio stream for about ten minutes and head a gem by The Balloon Farm called
'A Matter of Temperature'. This group's one hit wonder goes back to 1965 and
was a top 40 hit back in 1965. Don't recall hearing that song on any other oldies station for the last 20 to 30 years.
So, their slogan is appropriate, 'Playing the songs you forgot you remembered'.

Emailed the station owner and received a nice email reply.

Has anyone every tried to see how far their signal on 1610 goes?? Dose their signal cover the whole city of Brownsburgh?
 
gabigley1 said:
Has anyone every tried to see how far their signal on 1610 goes?? Dose their signal cover the whole city of Brownsburgh?
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As luck would have it, I was in Brownsburg this morning for a doctor appointment. After the visit, I popped across the street to grab some breakfast at the McDonalds, which is maybe 3 or 4 blocks north of the station. I tuned in while I was in the parking lot, heard some 50's tune, then the guy went on the air to talk about a storm watch as some rain was beginning to move into the area. After that, it was Sister Sledge's "We Are Family", then some other obscure cut. I headed north to I-74 then back to Indy. I was able to hear the station up until I go to the Raceway Road area on 74, (which is the county line). I am guessing maybe 4 miles tops, then it got very noisy and faded quickly.
I'd say that's fairly impressive coverage considering what he is doing. I didn't have time to drive through the town itself, but I imagine it can be heard ok in the main area. The audio is a different story. It definitely needs some work as what I heard was very distorted and lacked in the way of frequency response. Nothing really that can't be fixed..Overall I think it's cool that he has the initiative to try something like this and I hope it all works out ok for him.
Also I did overhear a ham radio conversation on one of the local repeaters, and the guy claimed he was able to hear the station on the south edge of Plainfield, which would put it at roughly 8 miles.
 
Flying-Dutchman said:
The FCC is waiting for an act of congress that will open a new LPFM channel in Brownsburg. I am now
offering to assist Shane in Filing the FCC paperwork. I want to see him succeed in bringing service back to the
community.
Bruce Quinn
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Hey, Bruce..when do you you think that will happen? I see it's gotten a lot of support by some influential people. We got our app for 98.9 in Danville kicked when the 3rd adjacent thing came into play, and if and when that gets taken care of in congress, we're planning on re-filing. We think it would be great to have a Danville station that actually programs in a language other than Spanish and know it will be well-supported by the community.
 
IndyDan said:
Flying-Dutchman said:
The FCC is waiting for an act of congress that will open a new LPFM channel in Brownsburg. I am now
offering to assist Shane in Filing the FCC paperwork. I want to see him succeed in bringing service back to the
community.
Bruce Quinn
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Hey, Bruce..when do you you think that will happen? I see it's gotten a lot of support by some influential people. We got our app for 98.9 in Danville kicked when the 3rd adjacent thing came into play, and if and when that gets taken care of in congress, we're planning on re-filing. We think it would be great to have a Danville station that actually programs in a language other than Spanish and know it will be well-supported by the community.
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Just thinking out loud here...
Would an LPAM get less resistance than a LPFM?? Since almost everyone has given AM up for dead, wouldn't that be the idea place to have a community ( a true community) service station? Whereas on FM where everyone is fighting tooth and nail (and checkbook)?
 
Hoosierky said:
Just thinking out loud here...
Would an LPAM get less resistance than a LPFM?? Since almost everyone has given AM up for dead, wouldn't that be the idea place to have a community ( a true community) service station? Whereas on FM where everyone is fighting tooth and nail (and checkbook)?
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Oh, I think without a doubt it would be ideal...the big trick is getting people to switch back to AM to listen. And you damn sure better sound good or no one will listen or tolerate all the static and inherent noise. Most younger people today don't even know what AM is....they're too busy loading their IPODS and Cell phones full of mp-3's.
 
IndyDan said:
Hoosierky said:
Just thinking out loud here...
Would an LPAM get less resistance than a LPFM?? Since almost everyone has given AM up for dead, wouldn't that be the idea place to have a community ( a true community) service station? Whereas on FM where everyone is fighting tooth and nail (and checkbook)?
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Oh, I think without a doubt it would be ideal...the big trick is getting people to switch back to AM to listen. And you damn sure better sound good or no one will listen or tolerate all the static and inherent noise. Most younger people today don't even know what AM is....they're too busy loading their IPODS and Cell phones full of mp-3's.
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If your point is that younger people won't listen to AM because they enjoy the technology of IPODS, and cells full of mp3s, then they aren't going to listen to a LPFM either. You have to be within one mile, and the fidelity won't be anywhere near quality enough to compete against IPODS. But NO station can program against IPODS. The type of people that would listen to a community LPFM would also seek it out on AM. My guess is anyone that knows about this station either found out by the local newspaper, or by local word of mouth, not by surfing by.

Music isn't serving the community like hoosiersky was talking about. sports and local talk are fine for AM and locals will find it if they want it regardless of AM or FM.
 
salespro1 said:
Let's take a poll - ask 100 people in Brownsburg (Hendricks County) the main reason they listen to the radio...now, what do you think the number one answer will be????
If you said (((MUSIC))) DING, DING, DING ---------------YOU'RE A WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like WKLU...er, OLDIES 101.9 -------IS------serving their city of license......
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From the looks of things, you're lucky to have 100 people even listening to Klu.

You're serving nothing other than your own ego ... which HAS to be bruised considerably by now.
 
IndyDan,
I agree with you. LPAM stations are exactly what smaller communities need. These will never be music-intense, ratings driven radio stations. In fact, high school sports, local community leaders on a local talk show, even public auction type programming [Tradio] fit perfect on a station limited by power to it's COL. Overhead is low; a local business person could actually afford to purchase and operate these stations not having to outbid larger companies, uninterested in the limited property. The station is programmed to the community exclusively, even small local business could afford the advertising - it's actually what many local AMs throughout the state originally did until they were packaged up for purchase as part of clusters, and turned into repeater towers for network programming. That's truly grass roots and a viable answer to the call for more localized radio, more diversity in ownership, and more attention to COL.
 
Hopefully, new FCC rule changes will open many frequencies for new applicants. Right now 98.9, 97.5, and 104.9
are vacant in Hendricks County. When Channel 6 goes off an educational channel will open as well.

97.5 and 104.9 work under the tranlator rules but not the current LPFM rules. I am hoping the FCC adopts the
translator specs for the next LPFM filing window.

Also, we need some creative programers on AM.
 
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