New calls for KWEY-FM 97.3

[THEInsultant]

Re: Channel 30

> Okay, I'm just doomed to look dumb this week; I didn't know
> about "The Groove Guys", and I also don't know about the
> "channel 30 mess" either--do tell. After you get done
> crimping your foil, of course!
>

Channel 30 is a station out of the Shawnee area that's a full-powered UHF station the Tylers own. It is a Telemundo affiliate (Spanish). Frankly, they are loosing their asses on it. The station is on Cox cable, however, Mexicans can watch the national feed of Telemundo directly off their Direct TV, etc. dish if they want to see it. From what a lot of Mexicans have told me, the network itself is in big trouble with low ratings. Keep in mind if you're a Mexican, why would you have cable with just a few Spanish-language stations when you could get a little dish and watch litterly hundreds of Spanish channels? If you did for some reason want to watch 30 off-air, you'd have to add an extra antenna to get them as from S. OKC or Bethany-Warr Acers-West OKC metro, where Mexicans reside, you'd be aiming your main antenna towards the tower farm in NE OKC, not towards Shawnee. Even on rabbit-ears or an omni-directional their signal is poorer than several low-powered TV stations in the Mexican audience area. See the problem here? Because they were successful with 106.7 they thought having television was a natural success. The cost of operation of a UHF full-powered TV station along with the technical issues that effectively limit viewership doom the enterprise from the beginning. I wish them well on their endevors. They need it. Television isn't for the weak hearted to begin with. Adding all the other issues that surround 30, I just hope it doesn't take what would otherwise be a good, Okie broadcaster down with it.


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[hello4]

Re: KOJK

Well, perhaps the market is gearing up to be jacked, just in case. KOMA's just outdated their "60s and 70s" billboards--they played "I Just Called To Say I Love You" today. Of course, Stevie's big in their library anyway; but still perhaps a harbinger. Or they may just be playing 80s hits of 60s and 70s stars, and not touch anyone who debuted in the 80s. Or they just don't give a crap when the song came out--like their sister KMGL, who routinely plays 90s songs in their "70s and 80s" shows (but only a handful).

 

[Kent]

Re: KOJK

> Well, perhaps the market is gearing up to be jacked, just in
> case. KOMA's just outdated their "60s and 70s"
> billboards--they played "I Just Called To Say I Love You"
> today. Of course, Stevie's big in their library anyway; but
> still perhaps a harbinger. Or they may just be playing 80s
> hits of 60s and 70s stars, and not touch anyone who debuted
> in the 80s. Or they just don't give a crap when the song
> came out--like their sister KMGL, who routinely plays 90s
> songs in their "70s and 80s" shows (but only a handful).

Well, I remember when I was driving back home from New Mexico in August and turned on KOMA doing a "Playing What We Want Weekend," or something very similar. Sounded an awful lot like Jack from the positioner, but it otherwise didn't sound much different than the KOMA I had heard a few months earlier. I was also talking to a friend in Oklahoma City a couple months ago, and he told me KOMA occasionally refers to its playlist as "The 60's, 70's and Whatever We Want." So, maybe "I Just Called to Say I Love You" comes from the "whatever we want" category??

 

[ms7168]

Re: KOJK

> Well, perhaps the market is gearing up to be jacked, just in
> case. KOMA's just outdated their "60s and 70s"
> billboards--they played "I Just Called To Say I Love You"
> today. Of course, Stevie's big in their library anyway; but
> still perhaps a harbinger. Or they may just be playing 80s
> hits of 60s and 70s stars, and not touch anyone who debuted
> in the 80s. Or they just don't give a crap when the song
> came out--like their sister KMGL, who routinely plays 90s
> songs in their "70s and 80s" shows (but only a handful).

I've noticed it too and it wasn't just one song.

If you'll remember when they were simply 60s they played 70s up to about 74 but only a very light rotation of them.

They run that all request show at night and I think that is where I have heard most of the "newer" product. Before they would just tell the caller they didn't have it. Now they play it. Who knows what they have up their sleeve?

 

[hello4]

Re: KOJK

Well, I ran a few monitors over the past 26 hours and only found one other 80s song: "Old Time Rock & Roll". I did see a lot of songs I haven't heard on the radio in awhile, though, so they seem to be feeding some new blood into their library to hopefully undermine any 70s-based jack leanings. Alternately, I saw lots of repeats too; an oldies station shouldn't have to repeat within 24 hours! From what I've read about Jack/Bob stations, they tend to have 1000-1300 songs in regular rotation, and perhaps a "really out there" rotation of additional songs for a little extra spice. So if four songs (that I noticed) are coming up again that often, sounds like they've got a ways to go!

When is this all request show? Nightly or just on weekends? How dumb to put on a caller and tell them "we don't have it"; the general public is deluded into thinking they can hear anything ever played, so that sure makes them look bad! And of course, they DO have it, it just hasn't been blessed by the consultant/PD. Of course, from what you say, that's moot now. I hear lots of stuff on Larry Grant's Magic lunch flashback that doesn't get played otherwise, so I guess it's spreading down the Renda halls.

As for "up their sleeve", that goes back to what I said before: if this is where they want KOJK to go, why tip your hand with the new call letter request--why not wait until the day of the debut? Yes it's annoying to have to deal with your old calls for a month or so, but you don't get undermined by the competition trying to move in on your planned turf.

 

[ms7168]

Re: KOJK

> Well, I ran a few monitors over the past 26 hours and only
> found one other 80s song: "Old Time Rock & Roll". I did
> see a lot of songs I haven't heard on the radio in awhile,
> though, so they seem to be feeding some new blood into their
> library to hopefully undermine any 70s-based jack leanings.
> Alternately, I saw lots of repeats too; an oldies station
> shouldn't have to repeat within 24 hours! From what I've
> read about Jack/Bob stations, they tend to have 1000-1300
> songs in regular rotation, and perhaps a "really out there"
> rotation of additional songs for a little extra spice. So
> if four songs (that I noticed) are coming up again that
> often, sounds like they've got a ways to go!

KOMA does run some songs in heavy rotation


> When is this all request show? Nightly or just on weekends?
> How dumb to put on a caller and tell them "we don't have
> it"; the general public is deluded into thinking they can
> hear anything ever played, so that sure makes them look bad!
> And of course, they DO have it, it just hasn't been blessed
> by the consultant/PD. Of course, from what you say, that's
> moot now. I hear lots of stuff on Larry Grant's Magic lunch
> flashback that doesn't get played otherwise, so I guess it's
> spreading down the Renda halls.

Nightly 10pm to Midnight on Fred Hendrickson's show


> As for "up their sleeve", that goes back to what I said
> before: if this is where they want KOJK to go, why tip your
> hand with the new call letter request--why not wait until
> the day of the debut? Yes it's annoying to have to deal
> with your old calls for a month or so, but you don't get
> undermined by the competition trying to move in on your
> planned turf.

Good point.