New LPFM on 95.7-WVQC

[Tri-State Media]

Had to look at the info tab...

And yes, the original CP shows as expiring on 8/8...BUT... as pointed out before, it could have automatically been extended by the FCC. I don't believe the database entry that is already there for them would be able to be edited. If not, that's why it shows that 8/8 date.

 

[Tri-State Media]

One more thing:

Back in April, Media Bridges had to request additional time, due to the petition for recon by Cox. As one of you noted, that petition likely is a moot point, as apparently, Cox has decided not to build out the Sharonville facility.

 

[techie2]

Had to look at the info tab...

And yes, the original CP shows as expiring on 8/8...BUT... as pointed out before, it could have automatically been extended by the FCC. I don't believe the database entry that is already there for them would be able to be edited. If not, that's why it shows that 8/8 date.

The CP is "Tolling", which means it will be extended for additional time. Looking at the public notices, it appears that it was tolled based on the fact that it was tied up in review because Cox filed petitions to try and get the CP dismissed due to their attempting to move in 95.7 Piqua. No organization can be expected to build out a CP that is at risk of being dismissed, so the FCC allowed an extension based on the fact that a portion of the construction window was useless due to the then-pending Cox petition.

 

[Tri-State Media]

Had to look at the info tab...

And yes, the original CP shows as expiring on 8/8...BUT... as pointed out before, it could have automatically been extended by the FCC. I don't believe the database entry that is already there for them would be able to be edited. If not, that's why it shows that 8/8 date.

The CP is "Tolling", which means it will be extended for additional time. Looking at the public notices, it appears that it was tolled based on the fact that it was tied up in review because Cox filed petitions to try and get the CP dismissed due to their attempting to move in 95.7 Piqua. No organization can be expected to build out a CP that is at risk of being dismissed, so the FCC allowed an extension based on the fact that a portion of the construction window was useless due to the then-pending Cox petition.

That makes sense. Tolling is a word I hadn't heard before wrt permits. But yes, it will be extended...I suspect that they'll get another 6-8 months, mainly because of the time taken by the tolling process, but possibly partly due to weather, if they have to do any transmitter/antenna stuff on a tower. I don't know what they have in terms of equipment...last I heard they still needed a transmitter.

This week will mean a trip to Media Bridges for answers...or a phone call...

 

[techie2]

Had to look at the info tab...

And yes, the original CP shows as expiring on 8/8...BUT... as pointed out before, it could have automatically been extended by the FCC. I don't believe the database entry that is already there for them would be able to be edited. If not, that's why it shows that 8/8 date.

The CP is "Tolling", which means it will be extended for additional time. Looking at the public notices, it appears that it was tolled based on the fact that it was tied up in review because Cox filed petitions to try and get the CP dismissed due to their attempting to move in 95.7 Piqua. No organization can be expected to build out a CP that is at risk of being dismissed, so the FCC allowed an extension based on the fact that a portion of the construction window was useless due to the then-pending Cox petition.

That makes sense. Tolling is a word I hadn't heard before wrt permits. But yes, it will be extended...I suspect that they'll get another 6-8 months, mainly because of the time taken by the tolling process, but possibly partly due to weather, if they have to do any transmitter/antenna stuff on a tower. I don't know what they have in terms of equipment...last I heard they still needed a transmitter.

This week will mean a trip to Media Bridges for answers...or a phone call...

I couldn't find much on how long a CP can toll under an "Administrative Review" code. If it occurs due to an "Act of God" (i.e. tower is destroyed by natural disaster during the construction process) it can be extended in six month periods as long as the station files periodic updates with the FCC during that time frame.

 

[Tri-State Media]

Had to look at the info tab...

And yes, the original CP shows as expiring on 8/8...BUT... as pointed out before, it could have automatically been extended by the FCC. I don't believe the database entry that is already there for them would be able to be edited. If not, that's why it shows that 8/8 date.

The CP is "Tolling", which means it will be extended for additional time. Looking at the public notices, it appears that it was tolled based on the fact that it was tied up in review because Cox filed petitions to try and get the CP dismissed due to their attempting to move in 95.7 Piqua. No organization can be expected to build out a CP that is at risk of being dismissed, so the FCC allowed an extension based on the fact that a portion of the construction window was useless due to the then-pending Cox petition.

That makes sense. Tolling is a word I hadn't heard before wrt permits. But yes, it will be extended...I suspect that they'll get another 6-8 months, mainly because of the time taken by the tolling process, but possibly partly due to weather, if they have to do any transmitter/antenna stuff on a tower. I don't know what they have in terms of equipment...last I heard they still needed a transmitter.

This week will mean a trip to Media Bridges for answers...or a phone call...

I couldn't find much on how long a CP can toll under an "Administrative Review" code. If it occurs due to an "Act of God" (i.e. tower is destroyed by natural disaster during the construction process) it can be extended in six month periods as long as the station files periodic updates with the FCC during that time frame.

As I said, I'll look to find out. I suspect that it's allowed to toll as long as is necessary to get things worked out with regard to the WHIO move, if that move is still occurring. It has been tolling for over 6 months, which will turn to 7 on November 8th...

 

[gabigley1]

I was curious so email the station about this on August 1, 2009. They told me back on August 1, that that they plan to be be on the air this Fall and they are in need of cash to build the station. When I pressed the issue on why they would be allowed to construct the station
after their F.C.C. C.P. was allowed expired, this is what they had to say:
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From: Katie Finnigan
Sent: Tue 8/11/09 8:45 AM
To: Artie

It is not an extension of the CP, we are in tolling until November and we will file an extension before then.
Katie

From: Artie
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:17 AM

Katie,

The FCC dose not list the extension of CP on their site.
Artie
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Now, I had no clue what [i]tolling[/i] meant and so I email the FCC as to the status of the station. They wouldn't give any info out via email and said to call some toll free telephone #. So, it nice to read that someone besides me is also curious as to the status of this station, given the fact that they have a expired C.P. but are still listed in the F.C.C. database.
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BUT, I see the F.C.C. has added this info in the last couple of months:

Public Notice Comment
BNPL-20010122ALM Low Power FM CP New Stn.

Joint request for voluntary time-share agreement denied per 1800B3-SS on May 3, 2004.

Granted 2/8/2008 per FCC 08-40

Petition for Reconsideration Filed 03/10/2008 by COX RADIO, INC.

Opposition Filed 03/25/2008 by Media Bridges Cincinnati, Inc.; Our Lady of the Holy Spirit Center and Forest Hills School District

Requested additional time 4/3/2009. Tolled based on Cox recon petition. No letter sent.

 

[Timewarp]

They could build a LPFM station for about $5,000. They were required by the FCC to have this money ready to go when they applied in the first place.

 

[One Who Knows]

Had to look at the info tab...

And yes, the original CP shows as expiring on 8/8...BUT... as pointed out before, it could have automatically been extended by the FCC. I don't believe the database entry that is already there for them would be able to be edited. If not, that's why it shows that 8/8 date.

The CP is "Tolling", which means it will be extended for additional time. Looking at the public notices, it appears that it was tolled based on the fact that it was tied up in review because Cox filed petitions to try and get the CP dismissed due to their attempting to move in 95.7 Piqua. No organization can be expected to build out a CP that is at risk of being dismissed, so the FCC allowed an extension based on the fact that a portion of the construction window was useless due to the then-pending Cox petition.

That makes sense. Tolling is a word I hadn't heard before wrt permits. But yes, it will be extended...I suspect that they'll get another 6-8 months, mainly because of the time taken by the tolling process, but possibly partly due to weather, if they have to do any transmitter/antenna stuff on a tower. I don't know what they have in terms of equipment...last I heard they still needed a transmitter.

This week will mean a trip to Media Bridges for answers...or a phone call...

I couldn't find much on how long a CP can toll under an "Administrative Review" code. If it occurs due to an "Act of God" (i.e. tower is destroyed by natural disaster during the construction process) it can be extended in six month periods as long as the station files periodic updates with the FCC during that time frame.

As I said, I'll look to find out. I suspect that it's allowed to toll as long as is necessary to get things worked out with regard to the WHIO move, if that move is still occurring. It has been tolling for over 6 months, which will turn to 7 on November 8th...

How many times do I have to post this before you guys read it and accept it?

As I have already reported: Cox almost a year ago notified its employees and its advertisers that the MOVE WAS OFF! Finis. Done. Not going to happen. The 95-7 signal...as it is right now has helped the station become #1 in the Dayton market. Common sense would suggest changing anything now would be the baddest of business decisions.

Now, being as far away from Cincinnati as the 95-7 signal is, I would never rule out the possibility of an LP-FM coming on air on that frequency there. But, it has nothing to do with Cox or WHIO-FM. It is staying where it is.

 

[Tri-State Media]

It's not that I don't understand, One Who Knows.

It's that the last we checked, it was still tolling. It started tolling in April of last year, before Cox decided not to build out its permit. WVQC, then, gets an extension on its CP based on how long their CP has been tolling.

 

[gabigley1]

This article on WVQC was in the November issue of Cincinnati magazine: http://www.cincinnatimagazine.com/article.aspx?id=82556

No mention on when WVQC will hit the airwaves.

They do mention that Cincinnati is the largest area to have a LPFM radio station. I think they are referring to the Arbitron radio market size.
Columbus is the largest city in the country to have a LPFM radio station licensed to it and it's been on the air for over three years now.

 

[Tri-State Media]

I was just told this afternoon that they've put an online stream on their website which I can confirm. Look for that to hard launch on 1/18 per their website, with it in testing mode the rest of the month. Timeline for the 95.7 FM launch is back into early 2010.

 

[gabigley1]

I was just told this afternoon that they've put an online stream on their website which I can confirm. Look for that to hard launch on 1/18 per their website, with it in testing mode the rest of the month. Timeline for the 95.7 FM launch is back into early 2010.

Don't see anything about a on-air date. Looked at their news section here: http://www.wvqc.org/news and there is noting listed about an on-air date.

 

[Tri-State Media]

You're looking in the wrong spot. The info is here: http://www.wvqc.org/listen

 

[gabigley1]

You're looking in the wrong spot. The info is here: http://www.wvqc.org/listen

Have you even inquired if they are even building the tower site? Wouldn't be surprised if they moved the sign-on
air date back once again. To me early 2010 would be around January/February, at the very latest. Original,
they said they would be on the air by August of 2008.

 

[Tri-State Media]

You're looking in the wrong spot. The info is here: http://www.wvqc.org/listen

Have you even inquired if they are even building the tower site? Wouldn't be surprised if they moved the sign-on
air date back once again. To me early 2010 would be around January/February, at the very latest. Original,
they said they would be on the air by August of 2008.

I do not think it's a tower problem really. The transmitter site is, according to Radio-Locator, on Victory Parkway between McMillan and Taft. Google Street View shows there are towers on top of that building already. I believe they're using one of those, and if that is the case, it comes down to a STL link...