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New Oldies' Network "Phoenix" Affiliate?

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Gale Tulare

Street rumor floating through our office that a new national oldies network will include a Phoenix FM that has struggled for an identity.

September start.
 
justthenumbers said:
KDKB?

If that's correct, I guess it wouldn't really make sense to keep the same format on the lamptimer station.
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I doubt that.

I don't see anyone bothering with a national oldies network. The format is dead.
 
I think the clue here is that the original poster put "Phoenix" in quotation marks. That says to me that it's a rimshot, licensed to somewhere else but (to a greater or lesser degree) audible in the Phoenix market.

---Michael Hagerty
 
michael hagerty said:
I think the clue here is that the original poster put "Phoenix" in quotation marks. That says to me that it's a rimshot, licensed to somewhere else but (to a greater or lesser degree) audible in the Phoenix market.
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I know this thread infers FM, but I vote for the Giant 580. Better than the
current espanol, recent Real Country, and long-time Tiresome Classics. (I still
have to remove KSAZ--in its current incarnation--from my AM presets.)

And bring back Dancin' Danny Babich with his weekend specialty show. :)

Some genre of oldies on 580 could blow out that horrible excuse of an oldies
station in Tucson (1450).
 
piggy said:
justthenumbers said:
KDKB?

If that's correct, I guess it wouldn't really make sense to keep the same format on the lamptimer station.
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I doubt that.

I don't see anyone bothering with a national oldies network. The format is dead.
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Oldies are anything but dead. In fact they are very much alive and well. It's just a matter of who is playing them.
 
I'd be happy if someone would just put the Lamptimer on FM and lose the colon blow megamercials.

But, I have to admit, KOOL is pretty close to the music on my mp3 player now. Just hope they don't go too far into the 80's (you know....the decade the music died).
 
landtuna said:
I'd be happy if someone would just put the Lamptimer on FM and lose the colon blow megamercials.

But, I have to admit, KOOL is pretty close to the music on my mp3 player now. Just hope they don't go too far into the 80's (you know....the decade the music died).
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I believe you may be right. After about 1983 there wasn't much going on.
 
michael hagerty said:
I think the clue here is that the original poster put "Phoenix" in quotation marks. That says to me that it's a rimshot, licensed to somewhere else but (to a greater or lesser degree) audible in the Phoenix market.

---Michael Hagerty
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Hmmmmm, network affiliate ... rimshot audible in Phoenix ... KSWG? :D
 
KOOL is terrible.
They need to be like WLS-FM in Chicago.

Thank God for internet radio. At work, we now listen to this station out of Chicago. They play a great selection of oldies (the stuff from 50s-late 70s)

Someone on here said the oldies format is dead? Maybe because the stations in Phoenix don't know how to do oldies right. (KOOL: playing KC & the Sunshine Band & Donna Summer over & over is not good radio)

If this format is dead, why is WLS-FM getting a 5.0 market share and the # 6 radio station in Chicago?

Phoenix needs a real oldies station, not another KEZ.

Long Live WLS-FM!
 
Billkex said:
KOOL is terrible.
They need to be like WLS-FM in Chicago.

Thank God for internet radio. At work, we now listen to this station out of Chicago. They play a great selection of oldies (the stuff from 50s-late 70s)

Someone on here said the oldies format is dead? Maybe because the stations in Phoenix don't know how to do oldies right. (KOOL: playing KC & the Sunshine Band & Donna Summer over & over is not good radio)

If this format is dead, why is WLS-FM getting a 5.0 market share and the # 6 radio station in Chicago?

Phoenix needs a real oldies station, not another KEZ.

Long Live WLS-FM!
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No, the oldies format is dead. It's been replaced by Classic Hits.
 
A programming consultant friend of mine sent me a press release several weeks ago.

Gale--

I don't know how much you know in detail, but this must be the Earthworks Entertainment, John Rook - Steve Rivers - Larry Lujack oldies network, which is kicking off in September.

In that case, Billkex, I've got a hunch you'll be more content with radio in the Valley again.

Good news!
 
Billkex said:
The Oldies format (WLS-FM) seems to do pretty well in Chicago:

http://www.radio-info.com/site/markets/grid/chicago

The folks at KOOL in Phx should pattern themselves & their music to WLS's format.
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Agreed that WLS-FM is a solid performer among the total audience (6+)...but (unfortunately) that doesn't mean much if most/the majority of that audience is outside of the 25-54 demo. Is it? Does anyone (Old Gringo?) have 25-54 numbers for WLS-FM?

From what I read earlier, under PPMs, at least initially, KOOL has improved in the younger demos. That makes it hard to justify changing the programming to mimic WLS-FM.
 
It would seem that the definition of "oldies" depends on whom you are talking to.
Quite different response from someone in the 40 year old bracket, as opposed to someone in
the 60 and 70 year old group.

Isn't the current classic hits the "Oldies" for the 60 and under group?

In the current climate, do you program for the upper demos or slowly edge downward to bring
in the younger age groups.

It would be interesting to know how WLS breaks out in the different cells.

I wish I had the answer to this age old question.(pun not intended!)
 
justthenumbers said:
Agreed that WLS-FM is a solid performer among the total audience (6+)...but (unfortunately) that doesn't mean much if most/the majority of that audience is outside of the 25-54 demo. Is it? Does anyone (Old Gringo?) have 25-54 numbers for WLS-FM?

From what I read earlier, under PPMs, at least initially, KOOL has improved in the younger demos. That makes it hard to justify changing the programming to mimic WLS-FM.
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April PPM 25-54: WLS-FM #6; 6-10am #5; 10-3 #2; 3-7pm #8. It's beating WLS-AM except for AM drive, when the AM is #3 25-54.
 
Radio Pro said:
It would seem that the definition of "oldies" depends on whom you are talking to.
Quite different response from someone in the 40 year old bracket, as opposed to someone in
the 60 and 70 year old group.

Isn't the current classic hits the "Oldies" for the 60 and under group?

In the current climate, do you program for the upper demos or slowly edge downward to bring
in the younger age groups.

It would be interesting to know how WLS breaks out in the different cells.

I wish I had the answer to this age old question.(pun not intended!)
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The problem is that the term "oldies" means different things to different people. Some believe it to be the first decade of Rock N'Roll. Some believe that it's 1955 to 1969. Even others think it's 1955 to 1978, 65-80, etc. The list goes on...

The dictionary states that an oldie is the following:
–noun Informal. a popular song, joke, movie, etc., that was in vogue at a time in the past.
 
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