New processor from Omnia

[gtomas]

It looks like Omnia will present a new processor on NAB. Does anybody have any more info?


Regards,
Goran Tomas

 

[fm_engineer]

> It looks like Omnia will present a new processor on NAB.
> Does anybody have any more info?
>
>
> Regards,
> Goran Tomas
>
Maybe it's a response to the 8500. A guy over at BSW said the 8500 has sold much better than the 8400, although I do not see many differences between the two. Two of my clients just put on Omnia 6 EXI's. They won't be happy campers if a new box is out! Well, I guess that is what happens if you don't wait until NAB!

See ya next week!
FM

 

[jingle_freek1]

> > It looks like Omnia will present a new processor on NAB.

I'm anxious to see what is released. I hear that BW is releasing a new processor to go along with their other line of DSP- processors.

 

[jesseg]

Is there already such a thing as Omnia Multicast? I've never heard of it before, but you can check out more info here:
http://www.omniaaudio.com/omlt/default.htm

It seems like it's an Omnia3.net with new software, so... I guess we'll just have to wait till NAB to really find out for sure, unless Frank wants to break the silence (which wouldn't make any sense)

j

 

[gtomas]

> Is there already such a thing as Omnia Multicast? I've
> never heard of it before, but you can check out more info
> here:
> http://www.omniaaudio.com/omlt/default.htm

Multicast is new, but not that new.

> It seems like it's an Omnia3.net with new software, so...
> I guess we'll just have to wait till NAB to really find out
> for sure, unless Frank wants to break the silence (which
> wouldn't make any sense)

Yup. Time will tell ;-)


Regards,
Goran Tomas

 

[1290wgli]

Re: OH MY GOD, OMNIA HYPE!

I wish I could get to Vegas to see the new Omnia. I am sure at whatever price range it is, it will raise the bar for all processors.

 

[jesseg]

So... I havn't been able to find any new info about it, no pics, nothing... Is *anyone* in Vegas that can get a glimps of it ???on another note, i can actually reply to posts now! wh00t!!! ;D

 

[tjm_pro]

New processor from Omnia is OMNIA.ONE

Copied from another list server:We introduced "Omnia.ONE." It's a 1RU processor that employs a very flexible DSP platform. The first version is an FM processor with stereo generator. It has a Livewire port for connectivity to an IP-based audio network, as well as the standard analog, AES, input/output, and mpx output for FM. The initial topology is a 3-Band "beast" but keep your eyes peeled. We'll use this platform for additional processing "flavors." List price of the FM unit is $2,495.00, but the "street" price will probably be just under $2k.Also, we have been running an A/B surround sound demo where you can compare the MPEG 5.1 Surround method to the Neural Audio 5.1 method. Finally, a real head-to-head comparison of these two systems. We have 250+ tracks of 5.1 source material for the comparisons.-Frank Foti

 

[tjm_pro]

With the lower priced Omnia.One hitting the street this fall, I'm wondering if there will be an upgrade for the 03 Turbo?? Would it be possible for Omnia to upgrade the 03T software to a four band structure? We're running a few 03Turbos and LOVE them but could really use a software upgrade with maybe 4 bands and a more effective WB AGC. TJM

 

[jesseg]

Friggen Sweet!! ;D So, who wants to lay money down that it's a CPU? :-XI can't wait to hear what Frank calls a "beast".

 

[jesseg]

By the way... If this raises & keeps raising the bar, then I was wrong about the cost savings not being passed down... and this has TOTALY changed the game. Frank will go down in history AGAIN for this. 8)

 

[dmettler]

The new value priced Omnia one is running a modified version of the O-3 Turbo, spent some time with Frank at the show, this box will be as he stated in his post a standard platform for other value priced processors for AM/FM/Streaming. No bar to raise as this is for the budget strapped station that is looking to get rid of the 8000 or 8100 and have a nice sound on the air without breaking the bank Enjoy...

 

[menotti1]

looks like Scott and the dsp-x may have caught frank's ear,pardon the pun.they have a low end product dsp-mini for under 1700.00.but the real value is the dsp-x.it will hang with processors costing alot more for around 3 grand.Frank never replied if the new omnia one is dsp or cpu as the other poster mentioned.but hopefully we can get some of these old die hard 8100's off the air and get away from the analog processing. best luck to omnia on their new entry..i just think if you want the omnia, paying the little extra to get the o3t would be a better value,since i've heard it could be had for a low as 2800.00 ..

 

[FFoti1]

Frank here..I'd like to clear up a few things regarding Omnia.ONE, as I might have misinformed Dan Mettler. When I spoke with him, at NAB, I didn't drill down as much as I probably should have on the box. That's my fault, and I apologize to him.Omnia.ONE, while only in a 1RU package, actually has quite a bit of horsepower and flexibility. For the NAB, we loaded the Omnia.3FMt code inside, but it can run topologies of many "flavors." We plan on utilizing this for various needed applications.Regarding the platform: It is DSP. We see the benefits of both DSP and CPU. While a CPU design appears easier to implement, the CPU design brings a manufacturing challenge into the picture that concerns us: The on-going availability of CPU components going forward. They do not have the same lengthy shelf-life as DSP chips do. This does not mean we will not employ a CPU platofrm for some other application, but our thinking is that an on-air processor is going to be around for awhile, and parts availability is critical. Thus, we need access to inventory on a long term basis. So, it's more of a business reason, more than anything else. We can now offer te same flexibility and power with DSP, as can be achieved with a hot CPU.Another aspect is that we designed this new DSP platform, for Omnia.ONE, that will allow us the same internal flexibility as a CPU would. This, we feel, creates a benefit in that we have the flexibility to employ the platform for whatever is needed...AND...the comfort in knowing that the shelf-life of the hardware will be there for a long time. BTW: I'm not partial to DSP or CPU. They are both worthy ways of achieving signal processing. Remember, in the end, it's how the product sounds that matters, not whether it's DSP or CPU.If you research the shelf-life of CPU components, it is very short, as that part of the elctronics business is driven by the computer manufacturers. We've been burned by the major CPU makers a few times, when we were told, during a design phase, that a particular CPU would have shelf-life of 5 years minimum, only to receive a "last time buy" memo one year later.I hope this clears up any questions that the group has.Regards,-Frank Foti

 

[scottdspx]

Frank here..Regarding the platform: It is DSP. We see the benefits of both DSP and CPU. While a CPU design appears easier to implement, the CPU design brings a manufacturing challenge into the picture that concerns us: The on-going availability of CPU components going forward. They do not have the same lengthy shelf-life as DSP chips do. This does not mean we will not employ a CPU platofrm for some other application, but our thinking is that an on-air processor is going to be around for awhile, and parts availability is critical. Thus, we need access to inventory on a long term basis. So, it's more of a business reason, more than anything else. We can now offer te same flexibility and power with DSP, as can be achieved with a hot CPU.Another aspect is that we designed this new DSP platform, for Omnia.ONE, that will allow us the same internal flexibility as a CPU would. This, we feel, creates a benefit in that we have the flexibility to employ the platform for whatever is needed...AND...the comfort in knowing that the shelf-life of the hardware will be there for a long time. Regards,-Frank Foti

Sounds like the new Analog Devices Blackfin. A platform we are moving to here at BW for a new range of products.Best regardsScott

 

[scottdspx]

looks like Scott and the dsp-x may have caught frank's ear,pardon the pun.they have a low end product dsp-mini for under 1700.00.but the real value is the dsp-x.it will hang with processors costing alot more for around 3 grand.Frank never replied if the new omnia one is dsp or cpu as the other poster mentioned.but hopefully we can get some of these old die hard 8100's off the air and get away from the analog processing. best luck to omnia on their new entry..i just think if you want the omnia, paying the little extra to get the o3t would be a better value,since i've heard it could be had for a low as 2800.00 ..

HiI would like to correct the pricing given above if you don't mind. In line with our policy of trying to offer the same performance and features as that of competitors products but at half the cost BW would like to let you all know that the DSPXmini range will shortly be reducing in price to $1200 USD but you can expect street pricing of under a grand.Best regardsScott

 

[FFoti1]

Sounds like the new Analog Devices Blackfin. A platform we are moving to here at BW for a new range of products.Best regardsScott

No, it's an internal design that exceeds what Blackfin can do.-Frank Foti

 

[fm-engineer]

Hey Frank,Is the 6 EXi still the flagship Omnia, or is the Omnia 1 going to replace the 6? Any software updates planned for the 6 Exi? Keep up the good work!

 

[FFoti1]

Hey Frank,Is the 6 EXi still the flagship Omnia, or is the Omnia 1 going to replace the 6? Any software updates planned for the 6 Exi? Keep up the good work!

The Omnia.6EXi is still the flagship. There is another software update planned for later this summer.-Frank Foti

 

[scottdspx]

Sounds like the new Analog Devices Blackfin. A platform we are moving to here at BW for a new range of products.Best regardsScott

No, it's an internal design that exceeds what Blackfin can do.-Frank Foti

Must be pretty powerful then! I can't wait to get my hands on one.Keep up the good work.