New processor from Omnia

[menotti1]

got a pic of that omnia 0ne you can post? scott, the dsp-mini for a grand?that is STRONG..i agree with the dsp over the cpu for longer life and stability...kudo's to Frank for getting a good entry level processor for broadcasters that can't talk the bean counters into the omnia 6ex.but scott's vision was right on target.more bang for the buck and a superb product..congrats to both of you.

 

[wgliradio]

Hoping to get a chance to hear this box.

 

[jesseg]

This does not mean we will not employ a CPU platform for some other application

Was that statement just intended to keep from painting yourself into a corner later, or is it actually a hint of a sequal to the Omnia.AX? The later, I hope. Thanks for the clarifications and attention Frank, I totaly see what you mean about the CPU thing from a business perspective.

 

[FFoti1]

This does not mean we will not employ a CPU platform for some other application

Was that statement just intended to keep from painting yourself into a corner later, or is it actually a hint of a sequal to the Omnia.AX? The later, I hope. Thanks for the clarifications and attention Frank, I totaly see what you mean about the CPU thing from a business perspective.

Not painting ourselves into a corner or anywhere else for that matter, as we've already done a CPU based processor with Omnia.A/X. (I believe it was one of the first for broadcast type applications.) There are certain applications that call for a CPU based design, others that require DSP, and some that could use either.Please don't read anything more into my comment(s) than what was said.-Frank Foti

 

[jesseg]

Sure thing, sorry for suggestively asking a question. :-[ Here's the suggestive question, re-phrased as a direct question, avoiding possabilities of getting wet paint on ourselfs:Can you say with any certainty that we should expect to see another windows-based processor within the next 2 years from Omnia?being a broadcaster that leases rack-spaces in a controlled multi-layered biometric-secured environment (1000U+ spaces by 2007), that's partly why it's my $1,000,000 question at the moment... naturally Omnia.A/X has $0 space cost on existing equipiment, but it's unfortunately incapable of getting the sound & texture we want.if we could afford to put an Omnia.6EXiDAB on every single setup we have, we would (which would mean we'd own over 200 of 'em by 2007), and then paying for the space wouldn't be a problem in the first place. as of right now though, it's two huge double-whammys against any particular large expensive processor. initial cost & space cost. eventually (hopefully) we won't have to even think about it.even a 1U CPU based unit, or DSP pretending to be a CPU based unit (technically the same thing by definition of "unit"), offers a better space advantage than the 6EXi platform... and as you've proven with the Omnia.ONE it can be sold for less (by comparison to the Omnia.3FMt). A windows-based audio processor lessens the cost even more because the end-user provides the hardware, and there is $0 space-cost if it's run on existing equipiment. And far be it from me to guess how your product sales income & marketing of each product balances out in your books... but I just don't see many ads for Omnia.A/X... so it's a possability (in the public's perception) that it could lower the price more, but i won't attempt to guess if it's a probability cos i'm not you, i don't work at telos, etc.i'm also fully aware that our "problem" represents a very very small segment of your clients. large-market FM/AM networks are limited by the FCC on thier ownership, and even if they rent space they almost certainly don't get charged per cabinet in a secured environment comparable with a DOD NOC.being somewhat involved with the business end, and very involved with most of our trade secrets, and also that we're a publicly traded company... i completely understand why you may not even be able to give me an answer to the question before I read it in an email from Telos. but eh, doesn't hurt to ask, does it? ???

 

[menotti1]

save space and money.go with the dsp-x or dsp-extra with Ariane.now that was simple enough...

 

[FFoti1]

Sure thing, sorry for suggestively asking a question. :-[ Here's the suggestive question, re-phrased as a direct question, avoiding possabilities of getting wet paint on ourselfs:Can you say with any certainty that we should expect to see another windows-based processor within the next 2 years from Omnia?

YES! Jesse,I do understand your situation, and you are not the first person who has brought this scenario to the table. It is a valid request, and one that we are in the process of addressing. If I may pontificate, but only for a second, most of our efforts have been driven by HD Radio. While I know that there are those out there whom do not care for it, we had to deliver product to the marketplace. If we didn't, someone else would have.Since iBiquity likes to keep their designs private until it's almost too late, we had to develop HD varients, after the fact. This has slowed down overall new development, and finally we have reached the end of that phase. On account of this, it forced us to fall back a good year and possibly two with regards to new development. If you observe the audio processing landscape, it appears that this has affected most, if not all, the processing companies.I shared that story, in hopes that the group can understand why products have rolled out as they did. We see the future, and it does contain processing applications that will be CPU based items, like a CPU Omnia.6EXi, or something better! Note: "Omnia" is a family productline to Axia, where we will enable a processor, like the power of an Omnia.6, to be incorporated into one of our engines. That is a case where the "beast" will be 100% CPU based, and it can also be applied in other PC applications.This is a good discussion, and I truly understand the desires of the group. I hope this explanation helps.-Frank Foti

 

[menotti1]

what about the newer Intel Dual processors.seems that application would work very well in a CPU based audio processor.the platforms just keep getting better among all the suppliers.but the CPU long term reliability will still be a prime factor.but you realize CPU failures have almost become a thing of the past.seldom hear of any today..

 

[wgliradio]

FrankDo you have any pictures of the new Omnia.ONE you can share with the group at this time?

 

[tjm_pro]

Are there any planned upgrades for the 03Turbo in the near future? TJM

 

[scottdspx]

save space and money.go with the dsp-x or dsp-extra with Ariane.now that was simple enough...

Hi postersWe appreciate the support but I would appreciate it if support for our products could be kept to situations where people are asking direct questions about them. This topic about Omnias new processor **like the blue screens & leds (; ** has become a topic about processor hardware and I don't see that this thread in its current form warrants promotion of our products. We do appreciate the support, it just needs to be in the right place at the right time. I hope you understand.

 

[jesseg]

This is a good discussion, and I truly understand the desires of the group. I hope this explanation helps.

Totaly Frank. I've known that our ability to "go Omnia" has been up & coming for a while now, and it's worrysome; the possability of buying a bunch of hardware that can't compete with flagship topologies. Just imagine me trying to order hundreds of Omnia.6s (or whatever) after we already have hundreds of even the brand-new Omnia.ONE platform. Aint gunna happen. Of course a Windows-based platform through the Axia platform... or even if the Omnia.ONE is capable of this... greatly reduces the costs of upgrading (and the other costs i mentioned earlier).Cheers Frank, you are the man!By the way... I was a just a lil kid, about 10 years old, living in escondido california back in the day, but even now I still remember vividly how great KISS sounded back then. I waited impatiently for over a week for the world-premier of Madonna - Like A Virgin and Phil Collins - Easy Lover that they played back to back. Shucks, I can't even find information about that on google anymore... Just thought you'de enjoy knowing that your sound moved me even back then.