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New Ratings are Out for the Fall Book
- Thread starter toddjammin
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That's your opinion. Some people may agree with you, while others may not.
K
K-RockFan
Guest
Todd said:SiriusFan730 said:Hate to break it to you, but radio stations do not broadcast for the sole purpose of entertaining one person. One person does not make a station rich.
Not only me other people are fans of k-rock Hotel Herman likes it.
The vast majority of pittsburgh does not agree with you. They do not like K-Rock, the ratings have been a disaster, the format is ending.
Oh really. If they get rid of kidd chris show the ratings would go up. I know its ending.
The ratings for K ROCK have been going down ever since Howard Stern left CBS. They were not that much better before K ROCK had the Kidd Chris show. I'm not ripping the station, I'm just stating facts.
Why would they move it to a new signal simply to placate you?
Cause it has better music than WDVE and THE X combined.
That's your opinion. Some people may agree with you, while others may not.
Is that all your going to say? So your not going to agree with me that 937krock plays the best music from theX and DVE? Who wants to hear some comedy cuts and classic rock all day and or listen to theX for 90s and new stuff gets boring listening but nothing but 1 type of music.
SiriusFan730 said:Todd said:SiriusFan730 said:Hate to break it to you, but radio stations do not broadcast for the sole purpose of entertaining one person. One person does not make a station rich.
Not only me other people are fans of k-rock Hotel Herman likes it.
The vast majority of pittsburgh does not agree with you. They do not like K-Rock, the ratings have been a disaster, the format is ending.
Oh really. If they get rid of kidd chris show the ratings would go up. I know its ending.
The ratings for K ROCK have been going down ever since Howard Stern left CBS. They were not that much better before K ROCK had the Kidd Chris show. I'm not ripping the station, I'm just stating facts.
Why would they move it to a new signal simply to placate you?
Cause it has better music than WDVE and THE X combined.
That's your opinion. Some people may agree with you, while others may not.
Is that all your going to say? So your not going to agree with me that 937krock plays the best music from theX and DVE? Who wants to hear some comedy cuts and classic rock all day and or listen to theX for 90s and new stuff gets boring listening but nothing but 1 type of music.
I'm really starting to think that you're making these comments to get a rise out of people because I have a hard time believing that anyone can make such asinine comments and really believe it.
But in case you do, K-Rock's rating were horrible. They were horrible before Kid Chris and they were even more horrible after. The old WASP-FM out of Uniontown, Fayette County pulled better ratings, so it doesn't matter if you or I liked the music, not enough people did to make it a viable product to sell to advertisers. If advertisers don't buy your product, then you have to change your product or go broke.
And let's face facts, CBS is trying to make money and they weren't with K-Rock. It's as simple as that...
Didn't the old WASP-FM out of Uniontown provide the springboard for Froggy? I, for one, used to like that station's country mix and its Friday Night jukebox.
Corporate- I hear your description of K-Rock is what I am taking to BOB. I mean I would stay for that AC/DC song and then go screaming away from Whitney Houston.
So why is it successful?
I will say this. Recently I was in Los Angeles and searching for a classic rock station to listen to. I couldn't find one.
What I wound up listening to the majority of the time was their JACK station, which seemed to cater to a lot of 80s rock.
And thankfully without the annoying Whitney Houston song!
What sold me on K-Rock was when I listened to it early on and heard "Round and Round" by Ratt. Maybe that's your cup of tea and maybe it's not- but it was No. 12 at its peak on the POP charts and an MTV staple 23 years ago- the very definition of what should be played on a classic rock station.
As an added bonus- the drummer is from Pittsburgh.
So where is it in the WDVE rotation?
"Oh, we can't play that. We have to instead make fun of that era with 'Mullet Talk.'"
I am currently looking at the last 10 songs played by WDVE according to their website. EIGHT of them are 29 years or older.
The only two that are within the last 20 years are Steve Earle's "Copperhead Road" from 1988, which hardly made a blip on the radar screen that year, and 1991's "Enter Sandman" by Metallica- which I could probably get on The X if I wanted to.
Is this WDVE or 3WS?
With the demise of K-Rock it is very likely that the music of every 30something Pittsburgher's youth will no longer be heard on the radio. They call us "Yinzer Mullets" but then we can't hear the soundtrack of our lives.
To trade that away for John McIntire and Chris Kidd (or is it Kidd Chris?) is simply not a positive.
Corporate- I hear your description of K-Rock is what I am taking to BOB. I mean I would stay for that AC/DC song and then go screaming away from Whitney Houston.
So why is it successful?
I will say this. Recently I was in Los Angeles and searching for a classic rock station to listen to. I couldn't find one.
What I wound up listening to the majority of the time was their JACK station, which seemed to cater to a lot of 80s rock.
And thankfully without the annoying Whitney Houston song!
What sold me on K-Rock was when I listened to it early on and heard "Round and Round" by Ratt. Maybe that's your cup of tea and maybe it's not- but it was No. 12 at its peak on the POP charts and an MTV staple 23 years ago- the very definition of what should be played on a classic rock station.
As an added bonus- the drummer is from Pittsburgh.
So where is it in the WDVE rotation?
"Oh, we can't play that. We have to instead make fun of that era with 'Mullet Talk.'"
I am currently looking at the last 10 songs played by WDVE according to their website. EIGHT of them are 29 years or older.
The only two that are within the last 20 years are Steve Earle's "Copperhead Road" from 1988, which hardly made a blip on the radar screen that year, and 1991's "Enter Sandman" by Metallica- which I could probably get on The X if I wanted to.
Is this WDVE or 3WS?
With the demise of K-Rock it is very likely that the music of every 30something Pittsburgher's youth will no longer be heard on the radio. They call us "Yinzer Mullets" but then we can't hear the soundtrack of our lives.
To trade that away for John McIntire and Chris Kidd (or is it Kidd Chris?) is simply not a positive.
J
Johnny Morgan
Guest
So your not going to agree with me that 937krock plays the best music from theX and DVE?
No, I am not, because I don' believe that is true.
Who wants to hear some comedy cuts and classic rock all day
Apparently the plurality of M 25-54 and P 25-54, as DVE has had the stranglehold on those demos for years. And, now, it appears that the plurality of P 12+ ALSO want to hear what DVE has, since DVE has been #1 12+ for over a year now.
and or listen to theX for 90s and new stuff gets boring listening but nothing but 1 type of music.
Maybe. But there are apparently enough people listening to it, since The X is still around and K-Rock is going away.
That's fact, reality, and life.
By the way, "Formerly known as K-RockFan"...did you frequent any of the advertisers of K-Rock and tell them you heard about them from listening to K-Rock?
If not, why not?
K
K-RockFan
Guest
before they put kidd chris show on the ratings was up from a 1.6 to a 2.1 And it was a good thing.
K
K-RockFan
Guest
Maybe. But there are apparently enough people listening to it, since The X is still around and K-Rock is going away.
Kidd Chris is the problem Not Howard i don't like him
That's fact, reality, and life.
Oh Really
By the way, "Formerly known as K-RockFan"...did you frequent any of the advertisers of K-Rock and tell them you heard about them from listening to K-Rock?
If not, why not?
I don't get out much. So i don't know? I hate the pittsburgh market when k-rock leaves i'm leaving.
Kidd Chris is the problem Not Howard i don't like him
That's fact, reality, and life.
Oh Really
By the way, "Formerly known as K-RockFan"...did you frequent any of the advertisers of K-Rock and tell them you heard about them from listening to K-Rock?
If not, why not?
I don't get out much. So i don't know? I hate the pittsburgh market when k-rock leaves i'm leaving.
J
Johnny Morgan
Guest
It was 2.1, 12+--which is NOT K-Rock's target demo. The demos were M 18-34, M 25-54, and then all P in both of those demos. Anything else was icing on the cake.
K-Rock's ratings in the target demos were not acceptable. That's why the changed. Without acceptable target demo numbers, the advertisers wouldn't have any reason to buy the station--they aren't going to advertise on something that won't get them an appreciable return.
It's simple business in large market radio.
K-Rock's ratings in the target demos were not acceptable. That's why the changed. Without acceptable target demo numbers, the advertisers wouldn't have any reason to buy the station--they aren't going to advertise on something that won't get them an appreciable return.
It's simple business in large market radio.
K
K-RockFan
Guest
But it was going up. If they left Kidd Chris off from 3pm-7pm and left it with music it would have went up more.
J
Johnny Morgan
Guest
But it was going up. If they left Kidd Chris off from 3pm-7pm and left it with music it would have went up more.
You can't base that off of 12+ numbers, which were actually stagnant. The demos tell the story, and the demo numbers were very disappointing and not acceptable to management. The format's execution in Pittsburgh was not a success. That's the fact, and that's why it is being changed in April.
SiriusFan730 said:But it was going up. If they left Kidd Chris off from 3pm-7pm and left it with music it would have went up more.
I would hardly call that going up. Like I said, the ratings were horrible before Kidd Chris and even more so afterwards. That much I'll agree with, but a station with that frequency cannot survive in the mid one's or low two's! Call it a rose if you want, but it still stinks.
Yes Pratte, WASP was a great station before the advent of the frogs. The Friday night "Club WASP" was a great show. People still believe that it actually existed, but it was really "theatre of the mind".
K
K-RockFan
Guest
I would hardly call that going up. Like I said, the ratings were horrible before Kidd Chris and even more so afterwards. That much I'll agree with, but a station with that frequency cannot survive in the mid one's or low two's! Call it a rose if you want, but it still stinks.
Yea...Whatever?
Yea...Whatever?
J
Johnny Morgan
Guest
Yea...Whatever?
That's not fostering debate nor understanding the issues involved here.
We understand, you're upset because a station and format you like is being taken off the air come April. But that happens. No reason to be immature and disrespectful to other posters here.
K
K-RockFan
Guest
True...Sorry
SiriusFan730 said:True...Sorry
Me too...
Morgan- he may come off as stupid, but I don't think he's been disrespectful.
Regardless, I think WDVE's success is somewhat predecated by the fact it doesn't have any competition.
You say it's what Pittsburgh wants. I'm as Pittsburgh as taking Iron City on the Grouse Hunt and I have to tell you I've grown sick of it.
When I discovered it in the 80s I thought it was the greatest station of all time. Now- as I said- it is playing mostly 30 year old songs that I have down pat.
Even the comedy cuts seem to be recycled. After I've heard the same joke a few times it's just not funny anymore- if I thought it was funny in the first place.
WRRK- prior to its format shift- was rather dull and didn't offer much in the way of a different playlist than WDVE.
K-Rock wasn't perfect by a long shot. I'm not even sure it was BETTER.
But it offered a legitimate choice- which truthfully WRRK before its BOB days never did.
And I think- no- KNOW that there's room for a third rock station.
Regardless, I think WDVE's success is somewhat predecated by the fact it doesn't have any competition.
You say it's what Pittsburgh wants. I'm as Pittsburgh as taking Iron City on the Grouse Hunt and I have to tell you I've grown sick of it.
When I discovered it in the 80s I thought it was the greatest station of all time. Now- as I said- it is playing mostly 30 year old songs that I have down pat.
Even the comedy cuts seem to be recycled. After I've heard the same joke a few times it's just not funny anymore- if I thought it was funny in the first place.
WRRK- prior to its format shift- was rather dull and didn't offer much in the way of a different playlist than WDVE.
K-Rock wasn't perfect by a long shot. I'm not even sure it was BETTER.
But it offered a legitimate choice- which truthfully WRRK before its BOB days never did.
And I think- no- KNOW that there's room for a third rock station.
K
K-RockFan
Guest
I have an idea When krock disappears and become a talk station Will the music that k-rock would go to STAR1007 combine the music STAR has with k-rocks music?
Oh, one last thing, for THOSE who want to keep K ROCK, check this link out;
http://groups.myspace.com/keep937krock
http://groups.myspace.com/keep937krock
Having grown up with 'DVE and 104.7's varous incarnations, I stopped listening to music radio altogether in the early-'90s. When KROCK signed Howard I tried the station and found it was finally safe to return to music radio. Great music selection, decent DJs, I was hooked again.
Absolutely can not listen to 102.5's "Yunzer Radio" (last listened in '88. If I hear The Jaggers one more time...), The-X only plays 1 or 3 appealing songs per hour.
When Krock switches, I guess it's back to talk radio for me. But not at Krock, who's new talkers are unbelievably lame. McIntyre?? Picksburger Scott Paulson?? Kidd Chris' pranks are sometimes funny, but his show needs major work. Loveline is horrid if you're not a 14-year old. The national morning show is just inane.
Sad... nothin' on the radio!
Absolutely can not listen to 102.5's "Yunzer Radio" (last listened in '88. If I hear The Jaggers one more time...), The-X only plays 1 or 3 appealing songs per hour.
When Krock switches, I guess it's back to talk radio for me. But not at Krock, who's new talkers are unbelievably lame. McIntyre?? Picksburger Scott Paulson?? Kidd Chris' pranks are sometimes funny, but his show needs major work. Loveline is horrid if you're not a 14-year old. The national morning show is just inane.
Sad... nothin' on the radio!
pfa said:Having grown up with 'DVE and 104.7's varous incarnations, I stopped listening to music radio altogether in the early-'90s. When KROCK signed Howard I tried the station and found it was finally safe to return to music radio. Great music selection, decent DJs, I was hooked again.
Absolutely can not listen to 102.5's "Yunzer Radio" (last listened in '88. If I hear The Jaggers one more time...), The-X only plays 1 or 3 appealing songs per hour.
When Krock switches, I guess it's back to talk radio for me. But not at Krock, who's new talkers are unbelievably lame. McIntyre?? Picksburger Scott Paulson?? Kidd Chris' pranks are sometimes funny, but his show needs major work. Loveline is horrid if you're not a 14-year old. The national morning show is just inane.
Sad... nothin' on the radio!
I just want to make one thing clear:
1. I don't listen to K-Rock becuase I'm not a rock music type
2. I can't stand Howard Stern or anything that has to do with him
3. I have never listened to DLR, O & A, Kidd Chris, Paulson's night show on 'DVE, or Loveline so I have no opinion on their content
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