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New Sirius lineup
- Thread starter Walter Graff
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"Not correct. The SIRIUS decades channels are replacing the XM versions. The XM 80's dj's for example have been promoting the arrival of the MTV VJ's sense last Wednesday who are on the SIRIUS channel. Same for the seventies and sixties channels. They will be replaced by the SIRIUS versions. However I believe 90's on 9 is moving to SIRIUS with the Pulse moving to SIRIUS. Still trying to confirm that last one."
Yes this is correct. Sirius took over XM. This is basically updated and terminated lesser used Sirius channels with a sprinkling of some of the few worth keeping XM channels. But fear not XM listeners, you are going to have a better service.
Yes this is correct. Sirius took over XM. This is basically updated and terminated lesser used Sirius channels with a sprinkling of some of the few worth keeping XM channels. But fear not XM listeners, you are going to have a better service.
J
JimmyJames
Guest
Sirius was never formatically or technologically superior to XM.
All we get is a takeover of a superior company by an inferior company run by a greedy man.
Yay for us loyal XM subscribers.
All we get is a takeover of a superior company by an inferior company run by a greedy man.
Yay for us loyal XM subscribers.
For those of us driving frquently north of Washington, D.C Sirius was and still is the better technology solution primarily because of line of sight issues (geostationary vs. Molina orbits). In the mountains of Central Pennsylvania XM is virtually useless, especially along the PA Turnpike.
As an old radio guy I also didn't like the programming of many of the XM channels. It was that same Burhart/Abrams squeeze the playlist, speed the cuts garbage that got so much of terrestrial radio in trouble. It was too focused on focus groups and statistical models that just never made sense.
I haven't signed up for the expanded service just yet and if I did it would only be for the NHL package and a handful of Penn State football games. Don't know if its worth the extra cash just yet.
As an old radio guy I also didn't like the programming of many of the XM channels. It was that same Burhart/Abrams squeeze the playlist, speed the cuts garbage that got so much of terrestrial radio in trouble. It was too focused on focus groups and statistical models that just never made sense.
I haven't signed up for the expanded service just yet and if I did it would only be for the NHL package and a handful of Penn State football games. Don't know if its worth the extra cash just yet.
tctalks80 said:
Buzzsaw is gone too...to be replaced by Boneyard. I've heard boneyard maybe twice. The second time seemed like I was listening to Hair Nation on Sirius. So my hopes are that when the ACDC channel is OVER, Boneyard will come back with the playlist (and DJs) that Buzzsaw featured.
Boombox is a loss, though. They played quite a bit of good breakbeat and DnB. The info I got from Sirius claims that Alt Nation will be playing breaks and electro-rock, but i have a hard time seeing that work.
Sad about Maxim going away...I noticed that 108's bandwidth now sounds like I'm listening to one of the talk radio channels......which is like listening to AM radio..but I can hear it at night
oh well...change is inevitable.
R
Radioman247
Guest
I'm gonna miss Buzzsaw. I liked their mix of classic and hard rock. It reminded me of rock radio in the late 70's and early 80's. I agree Andy I hope when Boneyard comes back it sounds more like Buzzsaw.
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JimmyJames
Guest
"As an old radio guy I also didn't like the programming of many of the XM channels. It was that same Burhart/Abrams squeeze the playlist, speed the cuts garbage that got so much of terrestrial radio in trouble. It was too focused on focus groups and statistical models that just never made sense. "
That would be Sirius. Karmazin and his FM consultants had way narrower playlists than XM did. XM dug deep on the channels where it was appropriate and when Lee left, then things started going downhill. But Karmazin has always advocated focus group and heavy burn playlists. I've seen analysis that statistically, Sirius spun fewer songs more often and fewer unique titles than their comparable XM channels in most instances.
That would be Sirius. Karmazin and his FM consultants had way narrower playlists than XM did. XM dug deep on the channels where it was appropriate and when Lee left, then things started going downhill. But Karmazin has always advocated focus group and heavy burn playlists. I've seen analysis that statistically, Sirius spun fewer songs more often and fewer unique titles than their comparable XM channels in most instances.
As a current Sirius subscriber I was impressed with the new lineup yesterday on some levels. I don't listen to a whole lot of the named music channels a lot,
but I did take a peak once the change happened sometime around 1:00 am last night. The decades channels are solid. The multiple music channels sound
great, although I only listened to some of them for about 30 seconds a pop. I was more impressed with the way they cleaned up the talk/entertainment lineup
on Sirius. I'm glad to see E! & Maxim go, they weren't grabbing my attention anyway. The Book Radio channel, which is a predecessor of Sonic Theater on XM,
is a much delight to listen to alongside Radio Classics to bridge radio's past with it's future.
I think this will be a greater sucess down the road.
but I did take a peak once the change happened sometime around 1:00 am last night. The decades channels are solid. The multiple music channels sound
great, although I only listened to some of them for about 30 seconds a pop. I was more impressed with the way they cleaned up the talk/entertainment lineup
on Sirius. I'm glad to see E! & Maxim go, they weren't grabbing my attention anyway. The Book Radio channel, which is a predecessor of Sonic Theater on XM,
is a much delight to listen to alongside Radio Classics to bridge radio's past with it's future.
I think this will be a greater sucess down the road.
New lineup card (need acrobat to view): http://www.sirius.com/pdf/channelguide.pdf
I'm sad to see spearet (Christian CHR with jocks) be replaced with The Message jockliss Christian CHR format. I also feel the Message is waaay waaay too wide. Cheaper to run i'm sure then Spearit was.
Back to Star 99.1 WAWZ and K-Love for me for when I listen to that stuff.
John
Bensalem, PA
Back to Star 99.1 WAWZ and K-Love for me for when I listen to that stuff.
John
Bensalem, PA
Even though I lost 'Sirius Disorder' 33 - I now have 'The Loft' 29 on
my Sirius radio. Didn't have to do a thing... I can listen to Mike and
smile, smile, smile all day long...Thanks for playing the Chris
Hillman earlier on my drive to work - I actually love the fact that I
have one service that gives me The Loft, The Spectrum, Watercolors,
NPR and CBC radio. Awesome, Man (I didn't have to change radios or
anything, it's now offically Sirius XM) Joe
my Sirius radio. Didn't have to do a thing... I can listen to Mike and
smile, smile, smile all day long...Thanks for playing the Chris
Hillman earlier on my drive to work - I actually love the fact that I
have one service that gives me The Loft, The Spectrum, Watercolors,
NPR and CBC radio. Awesome, Man (I didn't have to change radios or
anything, it's now offically Sirius XM)
JoeUPDATE...New Sirius lineup
As I was shuffling my music channel presets, I realized the talk and sports presets were all the same. No changes were necessary for NPR, CNN, CBC, BBC and ESPN - EWTN or LA Traffic - all were in the same channel slots. Excellent. Only the Music stations were changing (except for The Spectrum and Underground Garage and Jazz Cafe turning into Watercolors) Yeah!! JG
As I was shuffling my music channel presets, I realized the talk and sports presets were all the same. No changes were necessary for NPR, CNN, CBC, BBC and ESPN - EWTN or LA Traffic - all were in the same channel slots. Excellent. Only the Music stations were changing (except for The Spectrum and Underground Garage and Jazz Cafe turning into Watercolors) Yeah!!
JGLong time XM guy... listened to the rock stations. HairNation way better than Boneyard (though I think they are bringing that back next year. Octane is total crap compared to Squizz.... everything else in the rock realm seem about the same. Was worried BigTracks would disappear but Classic Rewind seems fine.
Sad for all the jocks.
Sad for all the jocks.
J
JimmyJames
Guest
1st wave is NOTHING near Fred. Fred was intelligently mixed across hits and deep cuts. 1st wave is very narrow and pop oriented.
It is a bit narrow, but I found that it's XM counterpart too deep, playing more of stuff I couldn't listen for long more than stuff I could. I still think it needs to develop something in between. They need to go back and listen to the WLIR tapes at the peak of that station to see what they are missing. It's too narrow now, and needs something to give it a spark.
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JimmyJames
Guest
Well taste may vary, but I know a lot of people who loved the music found Fred to be amazing and always willing to listen to suggestions. It was great for me to hear the true classic alternative, not just the "radio" songs.
JimmyJames said:
"And perhaps the new “classic alternative” channel – retitled 1st Wave — won’t play the Cure, Depeche Mode and New Order every third song the way XM’s Fred did."
Guess not all XM fans agreed with you. That line can be found in a good bye to XM here:
http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/12/goodbye-xm/
Problem is, wait till he hears that Sirius' version isn't much different.
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JimmyJames
Guest
That would be 1st wave. Fred's rotations were never that tight, so this article's impressions are wrong.
They merged Octane and Squizz together. I am already hearing songs like "Jesus Christ Pose" & "Down Rodeo", I haven't heard that on Octane since they set up the '90s Alternative Channel. I liked the original Octane just the way it was
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