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SUPERCASTER said:
Wait a minute, let's review.
If most listeners get acceptable to excellent analog AM or FM reception of a station or stations at their location, on the built in antennas that come attached to their radios, then shouldn't the necessity of adding additional, carefully positioned HD antennas be considered a serious drawback for the typical radio listener?
Perhaps even one of the many serious defects in the whole HD radio system?
This does not bode well for wide consumer acceptance of HD radio.
This defective, retrograde HD technology often requires careful positioning of external AM loops and rooftop FM antennas, often even within plain sight of the broadcasting towers.
Back to the 1920's and 30's I guess.
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Once I got to the point where I had the AM antenna outside the window hanging off a hook and it still wasn't capturing the digital (although the blue light was flashing indicating digital MAY be possible) I knew that this was over with. No average person is going to do this for AM. And the Accurian, as of late, is only slightly better. When I first got the Accurian in December... I was able to get FAN, OR, ABC, CBS. The only station it can now snag is WFAN. WOR, WABC, WCBS... none are in HD... although all have VERY useable to clean signals, I have heard no audible change in the signals.. yet the radio can't do it anymore, so something has changed.
 
Very strange, WGLI. Is there an interference source that wasn't there before? Has there been any new construction in your area? I'm really curious about what could have changed. There is a reason! Frustrating, I know. I have a similar (analog) situation in my area...SOMETHING is making a rhythmic (about 1 sec intervals) popping sound that interferes with AM reception, especially at the bottom end of the dial. I've walked around the neighborhood with my radio, and found nothing. I threw the swtches on my breaker box, taking my house "off the grid", but the popping persisted...confirming that nothing on my property is generating the noise. Stuff like this drives me nuts. On the other hand, I love a mystery, and it's sure great when I'm able to solve one!
 
Mike Walker said:
Very strange, WGLI. Is there an interference source that wasn't there before? Has there been any new construction in your area? I'm really curious about what could have changed. There is a reason! Frustrating, I know. I have a similar (analog) situation in my area...SOMETHING is making a rhythmic (about 1 sec intervals) popping sound that interferes with AM reception, especially at the bottom end of the dial. I've walked around the neighborhood with my radio, and found nothing. I threw the swtches on my breaker box, taking my house "off the grid", but the popping persisted...confirming that nothing on my property is generating the noise. Stuff like this drives me nuts. On the other hand, I love a mystery, and it's sure great when I'm able to solve one!
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If you feel it's electrically generated most utilities are happy to clean up their mess for you. I used to complain all the time when I was active on HF to my local utility. I had a Hygain TH5 so that I could help tell them which direction the noise was coming from. You can do it with a radio by turning it 360 degrees. That will give them 2 areas to search instead of 4 and should help them. My utility always cured the problem quickly, within a day or so.
 
Living in a rural area, I have suspected an electric fence. But the when I take my radio right up to the closest electric fence to my house, the noise is no louder than my living room (it does seem to be coming from either that direction, or 180 degrees the other way...off the "long end" of my radio (loopstick) when I sit in my easy chair. I think I may take your suggestion, and check with the power company.
 
Well now I have a new problem. The HD-100 comes on at full volume and needs an RA# to go back. Gotta love these software driven devices.
 
wgliradio said:
Well now I have a new problem. The HD-100 comes on at full volume and needs an RA# to go back. Gotta love these software driven devices.
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Thats why they have warrenties. Wanna talk I-Pods? I've sent mine back for repair and worn out batteries, 4 or 5 times in the 2 years I've owned mine.
 
wgliradio said:
Radiosophy has been very quick to exchange the radio. Good customer service.
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I talked with someone at Radiosophy a few months before their first radio arrived (must have been late 2005/early 2006) and they seemed very honest. The problem was i didnt want to wait for their radio. I bought my Receptor in February. When you talked with Radiosophy did you explain the problem? What did they say?
 
rbrucecarter5 said:
Well, it is certainly nice to see you here, Tom! You and I have had some discussions in other forums, I hope you remember me favorably.

Why do stations that format primarity talk or sports need digital at all? Neither format can benefit from increased bandwidth or stereo. Unless the occasional musical bed and / or stereo commercial is considered. Yet the HD radio I heard was playing a talk show, and it sounded most like medium-high bandwidth streaming. My ears are particularly sensitive to group delay / phase distortion, and I got listener fatigue in minutes and had to quit.


Meanwhile, clunky old WBAP AM in Ft. Worth sounds absolutely great on every radio in the house. Wideband AM bandwidth on the cheapies, good, rich, but bassy sound on the antiques. It makes the other talk radio in the area sound pitiful by comparison. Guess where my one talk station preset is set?!
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I too wonder about Sports/Talk Radio needing HD delivery. I certainly welcome AM HD for AM music stations though !!

My big gripe about AM Sports Radio is this.... If I want to listen to the AM feed on a live sports broadcast, while watching the action on TV..... the continual HD delay makes for poor continuity. I really need to hear the "gasps" and the "moans" of the Sports play-by-play announcers "as it happens", and not a multi-second delay!! That's why I need to be able to disable the AM HD with the Accurian!!

Then, onto Talk Radio..... when I tune into AM Talk radio, whether it's commentary, or a discussion.... I --do not-- want that stream of though interrupted, not even for seconds. I am very used to tuning into an AM station and immeadiately tracking with what's being said. The HD switch-over is annoying. I guess for Talk radio, I would rather hear nothing until the HD signal was acquired. That's an option I would also like to have in the Accurian.
But, in reality, I would have the HD "Off" for all AM broadcasts, except for Music stations.
 
TheRover expressed:

My big gripe about AM Sports Radio is this.... If I want to listen to the AM feed on a live sports broadcast, while watching the action on TV..... the continual HD delay makes for poor continuity. I really need to hear the "gasps" and the "moans" of the Sports play-by-play announcers "as it happens", and not a multi-second delay!! That's why I need to be able to disable the AM HD with the Accurian!!
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Presuming that your favorite AM sports station is broadcasting HD during a live play-by-play, disabling HD will do you absolutely no good because part of the iBiquity specification is that analog delay of the same number of seconds be employed as well while the HD exciter is active so that when you "blend" from HD to analog and back you will notice no repeat or drop of program material.

Also, getting the radio broadcast to sync up to the TV broadcast is going to be "iffy" at best even without HD because of the delays that TV is now using. But add to that the profanity delays on live events which are being implemented and it becomes awfully complicated.

Unfortunately, those of us who like to hear live events in real time are going to be stuck.
 
Cal Stymes said:
TheRover expressed:

My big gripe about AM Sports Radio is this.... If I want to listen to the AM feed on a live sports broadcast, while watching the action on TV..... the continual HD delay makes for poor continuity. I really need to hear the "gasps" and the "moans" of the Sports play-by-play announcers "as it happens", and not a multi-second delay!! That's why I need to be able to disable the AM HD with the Accurian!!
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Presuming that your favorite AM sports station is broadcasting HD during a live play-by-play, disabling HD will do you absolutely no good because part of the iBiquity specification is that analog delay of the same number of seconds be employed as well while the HD exciter is active so that when you "blend" from HD to analog and back you will notice no repeat or drop of program material.

Also, getting the radio broadcast to sync up to the TV broadcast is going to be "iffy" at best even without HD because of the delays that TV is now using. But add to that the profanity delays on live events which are being implemented and it becomes awfully complicated.

Unfortunately, those of us who like to hear live events in real time are going to be stuck.
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Then, perhaps then AM Radio will mercifully adjust their delay to Match that of the TV Broadcasts, whatever that may be. Otherwise, the chance that I would listen along to the the TV boradcast with the AM on will be nill..
 
TheRover said:
Cal Stymes said:
TheRover expressed:

My big gripe about AM Sports Radio is this.... If I want to listen to the AM feed on a live sports broadcast, while watching the action on TV..... the continual HD delay makes for poor continuity. I really need to hear the "gasps" and the "moans" of the Sports play-by-play announcers "as it happens", and not a multi-second delay!! That's why I need to be able to disable the AM HD with the Accurian!!
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Presuming that your favorite AM sports station is broadcasting HD during a live play-by-play, disabling HD will do you absolutely no good because part of the iBiquity specification is that analog delay of the same number of seconds be employed as well while the HD exciter is active so that when you "blend" from HD to analog and back you will notice no repeat or drop of program material.

Also, getting the radio broadcast to sync up to the TV broadcast is going to be "iffy" at best even without HD because of the delays that TV is now using. But add to that the profanity delays on live events which are being implemented and it becomes awfully complicated.

Unfortunately, those of us who like to hear live events in real time are going to be stuck.
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Then, perhaps then AM Radio will mercifully adjust their delay to Match that of the TV Broadcasts, whatever that may be. Otherwise, the chance that I would listen along to the the TV boradcast with the AM on will be nill..
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The big problem is.... What is TV delay?

OTA delay???

DirecTV delay???

Dish Delay??

Maybe even "Cable" delay???



My station routinely runs pro baseball. Our feed runs over ISDN to the Network "Station" then ISDN to the uplink. Then up to the bird and down to our receiver.

We're STILL 3-4 seconds in front of TV. Even more if it's "DirecTV".

We just don't all use the same path. I would assume Sirius would be closer as there is an additional layer of delay there.

And actually the team uses an LPB transmitter at the park to get "Real Time". (Or so it says in the affiliate handbook). It's just hard to sync.

Clouseau
 
Tom Ray said:
Tried to find a turntable cartridge or replacement tone arm these days? Next to impossible. We have one - count it - one turntable in the WOR studio facility "just in case". It needed a cartridge. I waited 3 weeks for the damn thing so they could pull one 10 second cut off an archive album.
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Necropost, I know.

But I've seen phono pickups for sale at J&R and Guitar Center and other stores like that..... ??? ???

Unless they stopped selling them recently. In fact, J&R is where I bought my turntable and pickup back in '99.

Yeah yeah. Shameless plug for one of WOR's advertisers. ;D :D *Runs away* ;)
 
No one cares about AM Stereo (statement by Pocketradio)
well, there must be a lot of no ones in North Myrtle Beach, S.C. we are really pleased with AM Stereo and we don't produce hiss, buzz saws and other noise which interferes with other broadcasters.
 
Bill said:
No one cares about AM Stereo (statement by Pocketradio)
well, there must be a lot of no ones in North Myrtle Beach, S.C. we are really pleased with AM Stereo and we don't produce hiss, buzz saws and other noise which interferes with other broadcasters.
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Yes, IBOC's failure on AM could very well be C-Quam's salvation. It's still the best no interference, low-upgrade cost, backward-compatible solution for achieving stereo on AM. It can also sound great when engineered properly, as WNMB makes clear.

db
 
DBdigital wrote: "Yes, IBOC's failure on AM could very well be C-Quam's salvation. It's still the best no interference, low-upgrade cost, backward-compatible solution for achieving stereo on AM. It can also sound great when engineered properly, as WNMB makes clear. "

I agree. And, I was awaiting the salvation of the Motorola Symphony chipset - what ever happened to it?
 
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