As much as KTLA becoming an all news station or Gray Television dropping syndicated shows in Nashville, Louisville, and Charlotte. It's becoming nearly extreme even in the advent of the internet 24/7. Back then it's just 6am in the early days of television then 5:30 and later 5am in the 90s and by 2010s 4:30 and now 4am. If your Fox and some extent CW or Independent just as many syndies cancelled after we witnessed the Soapocalypse between 2007-2011. Can a market like San Diego or Portland Oregon or even as smaller Fox affiliates like WGHP or WHNS in the Carolinas expand to 4am or until midnight. Know your comments for ideas news junkies.
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Newscasts as early as 4am and as late till midnight/11pm central
- Thread starter DarrenVision
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Huh?
I mean long story short I made an oped idea for comments if remaining markets like San Diego or Portland Oregon can extend their morning shows to 4am while expanding to midnight/11pm central for FOX/CW/Independent stations.
KVVU-TV5 Henderson-Laaaaaaaaaas Vegas already does this and they do a HOLY HELL amount of local news hours every weekday... 14 and a half hours. Their only breaks are from 10am-1pm and from 7:30-10pm, at least from a 4am-12am standpoint.
Well that's is the only way for local TV to survive in an era where major Network O&O's are on apps like CBS Owned stations are found on the CBS News app or Paramount+. Syndication shows that is shifting to places like Subchannels and places like Freevee, PlutoTV, TubiTV.
In iowa fox 17 has news from NBC 13 and the cw 23 has news from ABC 5. Fox 17 also has the national desk for 2 hours in the morning plus a half hour called the national weather desk. Then at night they have an hour of the national desk at 10pm after the 9pm news from NBC 13.
NBC 13 has News from 4:30am to 7am then the today show from 7am to 11am then News from 11am to 1pm then NBC News Daily from 2pm to 3pm then News from 4pm to 5:30pm then NBC Nightly News at 5:30pm then News at 6pm and 10pm. A repeat of the 10pm News at 12:35am then Top Story from 1:12am to 2am then Early Today from 2am to 3am and 4am to 4:30am. They repeat the 11am to noon portion of hello iowa news at 3am.
NBC 13 has News from 4:30am to 7am then the today show from 7am to 11am then News from 11am to 1pm then NBC News Daily from 2pm to 3pm then News from 4pm to 5:30pm then NBC Nightly News at 5:30pm then News at 6pm and 10pm. A repeat of the 10pm News at 12:35am then Top Story from 1:12am to 2am then Early Today from 2am to 3am and 4am to 4:30am. They repeat the 11am to noon portion of hello iowa news at 3am.
Let me clarify this. KDSM receives 9pm news from WHO whereas receives Sinclair stuff otherwise from The National Desk and The National Weather Desk. KCWI receives 9pm news from WOI.
Also, Hello Iowa at 11am is more of a lifestyle/pay-to-play program, NOT a traditional newscast. That makes sense since WHO already follows it up with an hour-long traditional newscast at 12 Noon anyways.
Short version: Syndication is expensive. Expanded newscasts aren't, in the grand scheme of things.
Rarely is additional staff hired, the existing folks just have to do more. Repetition of content already created covers a lot of the time, since nobody's watching all those hours (it's like news radio, people cycle in and out), and instead of having to give a syndicator 60 percent of the available ad time in the hour, the station keeps it all.
Rarely is additional staff hired, the existing folks just have to do more. Repetition of content already created covers a lot of the time, since nobody's watching all those hours (it's like news radio, people cycle in and out), and instead of having to give a syndicator 60 percent of the available ad time in the hour, the station keeps it all.
I feel that Early Today and America This Morning is now at 3am consider that KABC, KNBC, WRC, WPVI, etc. now start at 4am. CBS Morning News starts at 4am.
Good point and the syndicators are going to other places like TV Apps this time around like Freevee, Tubi, PlutoTV, Crackle, SamsungTV plus for those things. Sure there used to be Independent TV stations like KDOC, KOFY and KFTY that survived mainly on Syndication programming in the past until the business model is not viable due to past cuts and that newer technologies such as streaming services got the bulk of the median audience.
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No, they don't. They have an 11:00pm sports show, Colorado Sports Night, not an 11:00pm newscast. The previous 11:00pm newscast was moved to KDVR at 10:30pm around last year or so.
West Michigan couldn't have news from 4AM to 12AM not enough news in this market plus 4PM news isn't needed in West Michigan either but it's cheap to put on and not everyone is watching 2 & half hours of local news or 3 & half hours in WXMI's case although 7PM is a pay to play program with more of upbeat stories I think they replay the 7PM show sometimes at 11PM.
In Los Angeles the only non-news periods on weekdays (meaning no local news on any channel) are: 11:30pm to 4am,11am to noon, 2pm to 3pm and 7:30 to 8pm.
theres news at 11am to noon for 5 and 7, 11am-11:30 for 2 and 4 (plus CA Live), Also KTLA has 2 lifestyle programs an hour from 2pm and half at 7pm.
Yeah... @DarrenVision is right. There's news at 11am on 2 (half-hour), 4 (half-hour), 5 (hour-long), and 7 (hour-long).
The non-news periods on weekdays in L.A. are only 2-3pm, 7:30-8pm, and 11:35pm-4am.
But... then again, there's Spectrum News 1 and KNX News that helps fill that void. If you count SN1 and KNX into the equation, then the only non-news period on weekdays is... never. KNX is on doing news during those times.
With KTLA, roughly 2/3s of its weekday broadcast day is dedicated to news programming, or news-oriented shows, in the case of its "Off the Clock" show and L.A. Unscripted in the evenings. As far as the news-producing stations in Los Angeles, KTTV/Fox is behind the other stations in terms of the output of live newscasts; they eliminated the noon newscast this past fall when the Jennifer Hudson Show was added, and re-configured their evening newscasts combining the 6 and 7pm half-hours into a single hour at 6 not too long after. Maybe, with the conversion (in a matter of speaking) of KCOP into "Fox 11 Plus" recently, there's a news expansion in the works right in line with most of Fox's other secondary stations, although IMO KTTV's news department needs more work, especially with Good Day L.A. (Tony McEwing's retirement notwithstanding).
The main difference between Spectrum News 1 (at least the Southern California version) and the news-producing stations in the area (and I'll include KMEX and KVEA in this equation) is the former doesn't cover live on-the-scene breaking news in the same way as their over-the-air competitors. Yeah, you'll get live weather updates and the current stories of the day, but the majority of the stories covered on SN1 are more long-form in nature.
A fair point but I'm just talking about hours of news offered every weekday.
My local NBC station(KPRC TV) actually just canceled a newscast, to be fair it was there 430am newscast, they are now the only tv station in Houston, TX to air from 5am-7am. Here is a link, again thanks to Mike McGuff for the story.
mikemcguff.blogspot.com
KPRC 2 dumps 4:30am newscast
KPRC 2 Houston has done something you rarely see anymore...cancel a newscast. Starting today, the channel 2 4:30 morning newscast has been replaced.
mikemcguff.blogspot.com
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