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Next NFL Blackout Victim...

DToTheJ

DToTheJ

And this comes as a shock to absolutely no one: The Detroit Lions, who have over 10,000 tickets remaining for their matchup vs. the Redskins this Sunday.

Coincidentally, the Lions' 50-game sellout streak ended against the Redskins last year in October. Some would argue that it was around that point in time when the recession truly started to take its toll in the Motor City.

By comparison, there were around 4,000 tickets remaining last Thursday morning for the Lions' home opener, and based on that total, a 24-hour extension was granted by the NFL. This week, not so much. Expect an announcement later today.

More info:
http://www.freep.com/article/200909...ackout-coming?-Lions-have-10-000-tickets-left

As an aside, there could be even more of these blackouts to come this season, as the NFL does not plan to loosen its blackout restrictions in light of the current economy.

Full story:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHfF-xsBBkQa1OMukFjAtlxQtO6gD9AT9FA80
 
When I lived in Michigan, Lions home games were blacked out more than they were on. Of course the team was always bad, and they were playing in the Pontiac Silverdome which sat 80,000 for football.
 
DToTheJ said:
I also read that the Chargers, believe it or not, have managed to avoid a blackout. I know the economy is not good in California, but this has to raise some red flags to the NFL.
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A Chargers blackout raises the question if Los Angeles gets lumped into it as well. L.A. has been deemed a secondary market for the Chargers and even though L.A. is outside the 120 mile blackout buffer zone KCBS-2 and KFMB-8's signals overlap ever so slightly around San Clemente/Camp Pendelton area. NFL blackout rules say that if there is signal overlap (even though realistically only people in South Orange County can pick up KFMB-8 although not reliably) both markets get blacked out.

Thanks NFL. L.A. doesn't even have a team and yet we are still under your draconian rules. Let's assume the Chargers are blacked-out. Does this mean KCBS-2 has to remain dark and show no games (alternate or otherwise) while the Chargers play?
 
If CBS has other games scheduled in the same timeslot as the Chargers, then KCBS would have gone with the another games. For example, in this weekend's case, the other CBS late games are Pittsburgh at Cincinnati and Denver at Oakland. There's an interesting scenario for KCBS, because usually if they don't have the Chargers, they would normally go with the Raiders as a back-up. However, the Steelers-Bengals game is going to most of the country in the Eye's late slot.
 
Robnoxious said:
DToTheJ said:
I also read that the Chargers, believe it or not, have managed to avoid a blackout. I know the economy is not good in California, but this has to raise some red flags to the NFL.
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A Chargers blackout raises the question if Los Angeles gets lumped into it as well. L.A. has been deemed a secondary market for the Chargers and even though L.A. is outside the 120 mile blackout buffer zone KCBS-2 and KFMB-8's signals overlap ever so slightly around San Clemente/Camp Pendelton area. NFL blackout rules say that if there is signal overlap (even though realistically only people in South Orange County can pick up KFMB-8 although not reliably) both markets get blacked out.

Thanks NFL. L.A. doesn't even have a team and yet we are still under your draconian rules. Let's assume the Chargers are blacked-out. Does this mean KCBS-2 has to remain dark and show no games (alternate or otherwise) while the Chargers play?
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The rule is that a market is blacked out if any part of that market is within 75 miles of the stadium. If the Bills are blacked out, Syracuse is blacked out as well, because a very small rural stretch of the Syracuse market is 75 miles from Buffalo's stadium.
 
dustintv said:
It'll probably take a majority of teams or all the teams facing blackouts before the NFL does anything drastic.
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30-35 years ago, blackouts were the rule rather than the exception. There were only a few games a week that WEREN'T blacked out (usually in Pittsburgh, Denver and Washington). And this is when stadiums were smaller, and tickets were cheaper.
 
cowboybud said:
dustintv said:
It'll probably take a majority of teams or all the teams facing blackouts before the NFL does anything drastic.
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30-35 years ago, blackouts were the rule rather than the exception. There were only a few games a week that WEREN'T blacked out (usually in Pittsburgh, Denver and Washington). And this is when stadiums were smaller, and tickets were cheaper.
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I remember a particular game between the Redskins and Saints back in the early 1970s which was blacked out because RFK didn't sell out. People were up on their roofs in our area, turning their antennas toward Richmond in an attempt to pick up WTVR - which was showing the game. Baltimore channels were blacked out of the game too, hence the rooftop acrobatics. In our area, few people had rotors because you could set the antenna toward the northeast and pick up optimum reception of DC and Baltimore channels without touching it again.

Wasn't there a time when all home games were blacked out of the local market? That would never fly now....
 
BRNout said:
Wasn't there a time when all home games were blacked out of the local market? That would never fly now....
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Back in the early '70s and before. The rule was changed in 1973 to allow NFL home games to be broadcast.
 
BRNout said:
cowboybud said:
dustintv said:
It'll probably take a majority of teams or all the teams facing blackouts before the NFL does anything drastic.
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30-35 years ago, blackouts were the rule rather than the exception. There were only a few games a week that WEREN'T blacked out (usually in Pittsburgh, Denver and Washington). And this is when stadiums were smaller, and tickets were cheaper.
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I remember a particular game between the Redskins and Saints back in the early 1970s which was blacked out because RFK didn't sell out. People were up on their roofs in our area, turning their antennas toward Richmond in an attempt to pick up WTVR - which was showing the game. Baltimore channels were blacked out of the game too, hence the rooftop acrobatics. In our area, few people had rotors because you could set the antenna toward the northeast and pick up optimum reception of DC andas
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This is probally what residents of Modesto and Stockton Ca did being that The Raiders game was blacked out on KPIX S.F. and KOVR in Sacramento and was carried on KGPE 47 fresno being that their signal reaches Stockton. I used to have a antenna pointed towards Bakersfield when the Fresno stations ran different games,this was before the end of analog,being that Bakersfield DTV doesn't work in Fresno.
 
Isn't the NFL wonderful. They ask cash strapped cities to help team owners build new expensive football taj mahals, the owners then raise the ticket prices thru the roof, then the NFL tells the citizens of that particular city either buy up all of the tickets or you will not be able to watch the team that your taxes are in effect helping support, on tv.
 
trapper12 said:
Isn't the NFL wonderful. They ask cash strapped cities to help team owners build new expensive football taj mahals, the owners then raise the ticket prices thru the roof, then the NFL tells the citizens of that particular city either buy up all of the tickets or you will not be able to watch the team that your taxes are in effect helping support, on tv.
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This is why I don't support football.
 
If I were to ask, between the embattled Detroit Lions and the defending NFC Champion Arizona Cardinals, which team's game had a better chance of being blacked out this weekend... believe it or not, it's the latter!

KPHO reports that "there is a possibility" the Cardinals/Texans game will be blacked out statewide:
http://www.kpho.com/sports/21229728/detail.html

Meanwhile, with about 1,500 tickets unsold, it's likely the Lions' tilt with the Super Bowl champion Steelers game will air locally:
http://www.detnews.com/article/2009...s-left--Lions-Steelers-likely-to-be-televised
 
Well the Lions avoid a blackout. Given how many Steelers fans there were for the last time the Steelers play there (Super Bowl XL), I'm not surprised.

http://www.freep.com/article/20091008/SPORTS01/91008035/1320/Lions-sell-out--game-on-TV

Also, the Cardinals have 1,000 tickets left and have been granted an extension. Of every extension I've heard of so far this season, they all result in sellouts.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/2009/10/08/20091008spt-cardsextension.html

So 5 weeks into the season, only the Jags, Raiders and Lions have had blackouts, which isn't as bad as it seems (3 teams had blackouts last year total). But I expect that number to grow as more teams are out of it (the Rams got lucky with having its first two home games against the Packers and Vikings).
 
Wow! Pity the Cardinals. Here they are the reigning NFC champs - who gave an excellent effort in the Super Bowl - and they're having trouble selling out home games! Probably makes them wonder whether they should have bothered moving out of St. Louis in the first place.

Clearly, Phoenix is a pretty crappy sports town. Even LA could muster better support than this, under these circumstances.
 
BRNout said:
Wow! Pity the Cardinals. Here they are the reigning NFC champs - who gave an excellent effort in the Super Bowl - and they're having trouble selling out home games! Probably makes them wonder whether they should have bothered moving out of St. Louis in the first place.

Clearly, Phoenix is a pretty crappy sports town. Even LA could muster better support than this, under these circumstances.
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It's sold out. Link: AZCentral.com

(Ignore the ABC reference that was missed by those stellar editors at the Arizona Republic. KPHO-TV Channel 5 is a CBS affiliate).
 
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