NFL Playoffs on Philly Radio

[LocalRadio]

Re: No Philly station airing the 3rd playoff game today

I give up with this issue. I give up

Hooray!

Julius, did you try calling any PDs yourself? I consider this a fair question since you asked us to call. I did not. How about you?

 

[mjdecastro]

Re: No Philly station airing the 3rd playoff game today

No One is airing the westwoond game today between the Jets and New England. 920 AM WPHY is airng the game but that is a New Jersey station. I have had it. The Philly radio stations have let me down too many times with not clearing all national play by play broadcasts so much that I will give up this national play by play fight on local radio. I'm very angry at all the philly radio stations for not clearing this game to air on local radio on one station. I give up with this issue. I give up

The fact that anyone would even consider clearing the Westwood One broadcast an "issue" is laughable. Why does it HAVE to be the Westwood One feed? Jets radio was available even into Blue Bell, PA via WABC. KYW-TV had the TV coverage.

The quality of the Philadelphia radio market would not have improved with the clearance of the WW1 Jets/Patriots broadcast. Nor has it been reduced by the lack of that broadcast.

Thank you for giving up. Can this post be referenced come NBA playoff time when no Philadelphia station airs ESPN radio broadcasts of NBA playoff games?

 

[JimWilliams]

But what about the Stanley Cu...oh yes, that's right, the Flyers suck and America considers hockey, bush league. ;D

 

[JohnnyPancakes]

I fail to understand the obsession with playoff NFL games on the radio. What's the big deal? If you want to hear the games, get a satellite radio device, such as XM or Sirrius. That's it. End of story.

By the way, WPHY is geared for the Philadelphia radio market, and not Trenton. Just like the new WJJZ is geared for the Philadelphia radio market, and not Trenton. Get over it.

 

[BRNout]

Julius - WEEU AM 830 from Reading carries all of the playoff games from Westwood One. Except for the eagles, when they carry the game from the eagles radio network. I don't know how it will come in where you live, but it's signal is perfectly fine in the Main Line area (day and night).

If you can't get WEEU, then you're out of luck because I don't know of anyone else who is carrying all of the games.

Hopefully, the info will put an end to this little debate......

 

[JohnnyPancakes]

Julius won't be satisfied with that because WEEU is not a Philadelphia station.

 

[fred flintstone]

Julius won't be satisfied with that because WEEU is not a Philadelphia station.

Neither is 920 in Trenton. I know they say it's a Philly station (they lie). It does get into some of Bucks and Burlington, which are in the Philadelphia market but that's it. I know, with a good radio a true radio geek who does not mind static can hear it further South but for all practical purposes it's a Trenton AM. An FM can get OK Philly market coverage from Burlington County but not a Class B AM with a transmitter North of Trenton.

 

[rdcuffpa1]

Julius - WEEU AM 830 from Reading carries all of the playoff games from Westwood One. Except for the eagles, when they carry the game from the eagles radio network. I don't know how it will come in where you live, but it's signal is perfectly fine in the Main Line area (day and night).

FWIW, WAEB / 790 up in Allentown had all the games except the Eagles game (WCTO / 96.1 has them).

Also, NFL.COM sells their "Field Pass" audio package for $10 / month, with a 7-day free trial.

So if one has an urgent need to catch out-of-market games next weekend, subscribe, listen, then cancel after the weekend...

Minor topic drift: When it comes to out-of-market sports, the "good old days" were when the AFRTS was widely audible on shortwave. In the summer, baseball every evening and on the weekends, and it was easy to hear in this part of the USA.

Unfortunately AFRTS no longer carries any live sports on the radio, and their radio broadcasts are also much harder to hear than they used to be.

Further topic drift: fans of Premier League football ("soccer" to most of us) used to be able to listen to weekend coverage on the BBC via shortwave, but the BBC no longer uses shortwave to reach North America. Choices are either XM, difficult-to-hear broadcasts targeting Africa, or subscription audio at the Premier League website.

Such is the state of out-of-market sports nowadays.

Richard in Allentown, PA

 

[nitetalker]

Well, FWIW, I was grateful the Seattle-Dallas game was on WIP last Saturday night. During the 4th quarter I had to go pick up my teenage son from a show. Got home in time to see Romo bobble the snap. Maybe I should have tried to send my wife -- but it would never have flied. :-\

OT, my pickup was in Downingtown. Reception of WIP is awful there, at least at night -- almost as bad as "radio-free" Newark, DE.

 

[fred flintstone]

Well, FWIW, I was grateful the Seattle-Dallas game was on WIP last Saturday night. During the 4th quarter I had to go pick up my teenage son from a show. Got home in time to see Romo bobble the snap. Maybe I should have tried to send my wife -- but it would never have flied. :-\

OT, my pickup was in Downingtown. Reception of WIP is awful there, at least at night -- almost as bad as "radio-free" Newark, DE.

That's one.

Question becomes: Is it good business to keep play by play sports on the radio for the benefit of those who have to run some errand during the game? Low cume; short TSL. How many commercials did you hear (which is the name of the real game)? Once your son was in the car, did he change the station? And, of course, how many listeners who prefer regular programming did this cost the station?

Maybe WAMS 1260 in Newark can carry games. They've tried everything else.
And you have student toy WVUD, Newark wasting bandwidth in the only state in the union without a public radio station.

 

[Jul]

2 Playoff games not aired in Philadelphia radio

Its a shame that 2 of the of 8 NFL playoff games so far from Westwood One did not air on Philadelphia radio not counting the out of town stations. The 2 games are Jets Vs Patriots and Ravens and Colts. All the other playoff gmaes did get aired on WPEN and WIP and 2 more playoff games will air tomorrow on WIP 610 AM: Seahawks Vs Bears and Patriots Vs Chargers. Coverage begins I guess at 1 PM unless they carry the pre-game show at 12:30 PM EST. It sucks that 2 games got skipped but I'm happy they carried the rest of the playoff games.

 

[radiolover78]

Watch the games on TV.

End of story.

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[Jul]

Watch the games on TV.

End of story.

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I know the games are on TV. I'm not that stupid. I have 5 TV in our house. My point is that if the games are on TV like the NFL, they should be on radio too.

 

[fred flintstone]

I know the games are on TV. I'm not that stupid. I have 5 TV in our house. My point is that if the games are on TV like the NFL, they should be on radio too.

Julius, in the past you have said you watch these games on TV (the same games you say should be on the radio).
If, as you have said, you do watch the games on TV, why is it so important to you that these games - and all these games - are also on the radio?

Setting aside all the business issues and programming issues various people have tried to explain, it's still really difficult to understand why this continues to be so important to you, and what you are hoping to accomplish by repeatedly reminding everyone that this is so important to you?

It's also difficult at times for some people not to get annoyed after you have brought this up any number of times but at least some us would really like to understand.

Thank you.

 

[Jul]

I know the games are on TV. I'm not that stupid. I have 5 TV in our house. My point is that if the games are on TV like the NFL, they should be on radio too.

Julius, in the past you have said you watch these games on TV (the same games you say should be on the radio).
If, as you have said, you do watch the games on TV, why is it so important to you that these games - and all these games - are also on the radio?

Setting aside all the business issues and programming issues various people have tried to explain, it's still really difficult to understand why this continues to be so important to you, and what you are hoping to accomplish by repeatedly reminding everyone that this is so important to you?

It's also difficult at times for some people not to get annoyed after you have brought this up any number of times but at least some us would really like to understand.

Thank you.

[/quote] Equal Time. It is important to me and the listeners of Philadelphia that these games that are on TV get aired here on the radio. I fell that philly should clear these broadcasts because they are a top 10 market. I understand what everyone has said to me and that is why I should accpect the reasons given to me about why some games don't air in this market. For many years, every national broadcast of a game was aired on local radio but now, it is not the case. That is the reason why I started rasing hell about national play by play in Phlly but I need to let it go. I'm very sorry for beating a dead horse about it but I'm very passionate about this issue.

 

[fred flintstone]

Equal Time. It is important to me and the listeners of Philadelphia that these games that are on TV get aired here on the radio. I fell that philly should clear these broadcasts because they are a top 10 market. I understand what everyone has said to me and that is why I should accpect the reasons given to me about why some games don't air in this market. For many years, every national broadcast of a game was aired on local radio but now, it is not the case. That is the reason why I started rasing hell about national play by play in Phlly but I need to let it go. I'm very sorry for beating a dead horse about it but I'm very passionate about this issue.

I can appreciate your feelings about this. And you are not alone in wanting back something that used to be an important part of radio and of your love of radio. I don't know if you get over there but I visit the Oldies and Adult Standards boards and there are lot of people there who passionately miss those formats just as you miss play by play sports. I used to love listening to baseball at night and especially to the great baseball announcers who made the game live larger than life for me - Mel Allen, Red Barber, Ernie Harwell... Today's announcers are not the same and with the current bunch, I don't feel much like listening to games on the radio.

I know you miss many things about radio that aren't there any more: The old WCAU. KYW the way it was. Other people here miss Wibbage, or WFIL or the original WMMR... I am older than you and have a lot more to miss. I hope you won't let your feelings about old radio go completely because the radio we grew up with has some great memories for most of us here. And you don't have to like the reasons people give you. As a listener, radio's business issues are not something you should have to be concerned about. But it also sounds like you do see that radio won't go back to what it was.

Thanks for your answer.

I hope you enjoy the games on TV.

 

[LBill]

My 2 cents...I work as a professional driver, I work every Saturday and Sunday. I am the perfect target audience for the national/WW1 feed of the games!

 

[fred flintstone]

My 2 cents...I work as a professional driver, I work every Saturday and Sunday. I am the perfect target audience for the national/WW1 feed of the games!

Unfortunately, there's not enough people in your situation for terrestrial radio.
However, you are the perfect target audience for satellite radio (which does carry the games - all the games).

 

[rdcuffpa1]

I know you miss many things about radio that aren't there any more: The old WCAU. KYW the way it was. Other people here miss Wibbage, or WFIL or the original WMMR... I am older than you and have a lot more to miss. I hope you won't let your feelings about old radio go completely because the radio we grew up with has some great memories for most of us here.

Best place to satisfy such a craving nowadays is the Philadelphia Broadcast Pioneers' website, http://www.broadcastpioneers.com/. Lots of airchecks.

Richard in Allentown

 

[WTUX]

I was working a lot Sunday and driving around town a bit. I listened to the games on WDEL and was glad they were there. But I noticed a lack of local spots specificly for the games. Airing the games only add to WDEL's persona as a strong source for radio sports in Wilmington, despite all sports WWTX.