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nickelback is #1

God, somebody spare me. I'd rather have even Buttons back up there at this point.

Are you actually employed in CHR radio or just a listener? Judging by your comment, maybe you should be neither.
 
Nickelback has to be one of the most ordinary, bland rock bands out there today. They're like today's equivalent of Journey or REO Speedwagon, corporate rock with no creativity or intelligence whatsoever. I wouldn't go so far as to say that they make The Pussycat Dolls sound good (bubblegum is the one genre I have even less of a tolerance for), but I really don't understand what attracts people to such mediocrity.
 
Yeah, like Journey and REO in their day, all Nickelback does is sell tons of CDs and sells out shows everywhere. You have to be very uncreative to do that. I always chuckle when I hear a rocker geek spew "they've soldout." hehe
 
RadioMahn said:
Yeah, like Journey and REO in their day, all Nickelback does is sell tons of CDs and sells out shows everywhere. You have to be very uncreative to do that. I always chuckle when I hear a rocker geek spew "they've soldout." hehe

They all spew out lowest common denominator tripe in easily digestible commercial jingle form. It's really not that hard to do - there's so many other artists and bands out there that do the exact same thing. I have far more respect for artists that display creativity and personal expression - it takes a lot more talent to do something like that. Nickelback has put out 5 albums over their career with only 3 songs on them - they only change the words around to present them as "different" when they're nothing more than re-writes of older songs.
 
I've never been much of a Nickelback fan (though "Photograph") is one of my favorite songs of the year), but I've heard much worse. Anybody ever heard "London Bridge" or "Chain Hang Low"?
 
the golden boy said:
I've never been much of a Nickelback fan (though "Photograph") is one of my favorite songs of the year), but I've heard much worse. Anybody ever heard "London Bridge" or "Chain Hang Low"?

Yes, but no one plays "Chain Hang Low" anymore and at least "London Bridge" is catchy.
 
If it's not that hard to do, why hasn't any other band had the same success.

It it sucks so bad, why do they sell millions?

If it's so easy, why don't YOU do it and make MILLIONS.
 
Yes, but no one plays "Chain Hang Low" anymore

Hmm. I was traveling last Saturday and listening to Open House Party and they announced it was the number one requested song for the night. I guess someone should tell John Garabedian not to play it anymore.

I just wonder what are you doing on a CHR board. Top 40 is for the masses. The hits the mainstream population wants to hear. It's evidently much too mundane for such a musical elitist as you.
 
Russ said:
If it's not that hard to do, why hasn't any other band had the same success.

Um... 3 Doors Down, Hinder, Evanescence and the now-defunct Creed come to mind immediately. It's all modern-day corporate rock. Their success has to do with crossover appeal - they perform songs that get played on both Rock and Hot AC stations, and therein lies their success. Most bands write songs that only appear on one chart or the other, if they appear at all.

Russ said:
It it sucks so bad, why do they sell millions?

Ubiquity, my friend. And catchiness. Their songs are as catchy and as profound as commercial jingles. It is that very catchiness that makes the songs resonate with listeners. There's so many horrible artists out there that sell millions: Britney Spears, Ashlee Simpson, 'N Sync, Nick Lachey, Black Eyed Peas, Nelly, etc. Horrible is a subjective term, but I apply it from a critical standpoint - not only do the songs from these artists lack intelligence and creativity, but many of them are unable to even perform the songs live. That is pathetic.

Russ said:
If it's so easy, why don't YOU do it and make MILLIONS.

Bands like these are a dime a dozen - these guys just happened to get a lucky break. Hinder is marketable ("we're bringing party rock back!"), and so is Evanescence ("Look at me, I'm gothic even though I sound like Kelly Clarkson and have never heard of Bauhaus or Sisters Of Mercy"). It would not be easy to get noticed playing this style because thousands of bar bands out there are also playing it. So I have to say that I respect them for getting noticed, whatever way they did. I can't say the same for their music - it's pure product, nothing more and nothing less.
 
RadioMahn said:
Yes, but no one plays "Chain Hang Low" anymore

Hmm. I was traveling last Saturday and listening to Open House Party and they announced it was the number one requested song for the night. I guess someone should tell John Garabedian not to play it anymore.

I just wonder what are you doing on a CHR board. Top 40 is for the masses. The hits the mainstream population wants to hear. It's evidently much too mundane for such a musical elitist as you.

Have you also heard that it's a syndicated show that includes BOTH Top 40 and Rhythmic radio? If it's such a fantastic hit on CHR why did it barely even dent the top 30? Because it charted just as "Laffy Taffy", "Lean Wit It Rock Wit It" and soon "Walk It Out". Most Rhythmic leaning CHRs are usually what even makes these songs chart in the first place, don't believe, check the charts. You can station pls at mmr247.com/mmrweb/allaccess or the charts at mmr247.com/mmrweb/allaccess/charts.asp?format=h1r&showtopn=500, you obviously haven't touched the site or you wouldn't be saying "Chain Hang Low" was a smash hit on this format.

And not ALL mainstream radio attempts to play what everyone wants. If that was the case, every CHR in the US would have skyrocketing numbers. Is that the case? No.

And as far as Nickelback, because I hate "Far Away" does NOT mean I hate all the songs on top 40 radio. I could make a hell of a long list of songs I enjoy on Top 40 currently, for top 10, some of the best songs I've heard this year "Too Little, Too Late" and "Chasing Cars" are featured on there. I do have songs I hate, and "Far Away" is one of them, whether it be Kroger's annoying vocals or the fact that it's the same damn song as the 8 or so other top 10 hits they've had. Just becuase it's a hit doesn't mean I enjoy it. And that goes for all charts. "Laffy Taffy" was #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 but that didn't make me like it, and the fact that this song is #1 on Top 40 airplay does not convince me to enjoy it either.

And guess why it is #1? Take a guess. Because 14-21 females either love this sucked into a tunnel love-song oh how sad or those that think NICKELBACK ROXX HARD!!!111. That's why. And that's the people CHRs try to capture smart one. #1 hits are NOT always good songs. The end.
 
RadioMahn said:
#1 hits are NOT always good songs. The end.

Geez, you're so smart. I knew that 30 years ago. Where've ya been?

Obviously not because if so, you would have never responded to my hating of Nickelback.

Or, or could it be that, that, ...you like it and hate me because of it?? What maturity. ::)
 
spongebag7890 said:
Have you also heard that it's a syndicated show that includes BOTH Top 40 and Rhythmic radio? If it's such a fantastic hit on CHR why did it barely even dent the top 30? Because it charted just as "Laffy Taffy", "Lean Wit It Rock Wit It" and soon "Walk It Out". Most Rhythmic leaning CHRs are usually what even makes these songs chart in the first place, don't believe, check the charts. You can station pls at mmr247.com/mmrweb/allaccess or the charts at mmr247.com/mmrweb/allaccess/charts.asp?format=h1r&showtopn=500, you obviously haven't touched the site or you wouldn't be saying "Chain Hang Low" was a smash hit on this format.

And not ALL mainstream radio attempts to play what everyone wants. If that was the case, every CHR in the US would have skyrocketing numbers. Is that the case? No.

And as far as Nickelback, because I hate "Far Away" does NOT mean I hate all the songs on top 40 radio. I could make a hell of a long list of songs I enjoy on Top 40 currently, for top 10, some of the best songs I've heard this year "Too Little, Too Late" and "Chasing Cars" are featured on there. I do have songs I hate, and "Far Away" is one of them, whether it be Kroger's annoying vocals or the fact that it's the same damn song as the 8 or so other top 10 hits they've had. Just becuase it's a hit doesn't mean I enjoy it. And that goes for all charts. "Laffy Taffy" was #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 but that didn't make me like it, and the fact that this song is #1 on Top 40 airplay does not convince me to enjoy it either.

And guess why it is #1? Take a guess. Because 14-21 females either love this sucked into a tunnel love-song oh how sad or those that think NICKELBACK ROXX HARD!!!111. That's why. And that's the people CHRs try to capture smart one. #1 hits are NOT always good songs. The end.

I don't like a good majority of what is on the charts either, but CHR and Hot AC programmers know what people like, and that is what sells and earns airplay. I personally like Nickelback, but like you, do not like the syrupy "Far Away" all that much. But that doesn't mean others don't.

I have a question for you spongebag regarding intelligent music. I'm not trying to be a smart aleck, but I sincerely wonder why all the more intelligent songs rarely if ever earn a large audience. If this is better music, why do the mass appeal songs that sound like commercial jingles continually do well?
 
Obviously not because if so, you would have never responded to my hating of Nickelback.

Or, or could it be that, that, ...you like it and hate me because of it?? What maturity

I don't love the song or hate the song. It's just a song on the radio. Get over it it. :-*

Oh, and judging by the length of your posts, you have way too much time on your hands.
 
RadioMahn said:
Obviously not because if so, you would have never responded to my hating of Nickelback.

Or, or could it be that, that, ...you like it and hate me because of it?? What maturity

I don't love the song or hate the song. It's just a song on the radio. Get over it it. :-*

Oh, and judging by the length of your posts, you have way too much time on your hands.

Oh, and the 500+ other people on here have nothing to do either.
 
I wonder what Nickelback did to get KIIS FM ticked off??? 0 spins for this there except of course the syndicated weekend countdown shows... just like with "Photograph"... yet they still play "How You Remind Me" as a recurrent... interesting.
 
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