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AKLes
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If you work in radio--or TV--and aren't prepared to be replaced with zero notice then you are truly a damn fool.
At one time there was some stability in radio; back around the time there were no more than four stations per sizeable market. Once stations multiplied the revolving door became standard.
Formats change; managers change; stations are sold.
If you want a secure job try the U.S. Postal Service and invest in kevlar.
Those are just facts of life. It's not unique to Providence and it's not unique to Clear Channel.
At one time there was some stability in radio; back around the time there were no more than four stations per sizeable market. Once stations multiplied the revolving door became standard.
Formats change; managers change; stations are sold.
If you want a secure job try the U.S. Postal Service and invest in kevlar.
Those are just facts of life. It's not unique to Providence and it's not unique to Clear Channel.
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wc3434
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Les,
You are 100% right.
We just all lament the loss of Doug , Joanne, and their partners. I'm sure you do too.
I wonder ,if there will even be local talk radio stations 10 years from now.
Can you imagine a Google buy out!
Would it have been asking too much for a 1 week notice?
Just very sad and at this time of year. Walter
You are 100% right.
We just all lament the loss of Doug , Joanne, and their partners. I'm sure you do too.
I wonder ,if there will even be local talk radio stations 10 years from now.
Can you imagine a Google buy out!
Would it have been asking too much for a 1 week notice?
Just very sad and at this time of year. Walter
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jockitch
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If they were that concerned about the performance of the morning show they should have taken steps long ago. Two years ago when they decided to fix what wasn't broken at B101 might have been a good time. The fact that most of the changes were concentrated on B101 which wasn't performing poorly means Coast changes are as much of a money issue as Bee changes were. If I'm going to sell my car I'm going to make sure it's washed & in good running condition. Cutting costs in anticipation of a sale is the reason for all this pure & simple. I know CCU wanted a younger audience for B101 but if Coast was performing that poorly I would think 93.3 changes would have been a priority all along. We can play woulda-coulda-shoulda till the cows come home.
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tomcollinsaa
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HEAVY DRINKING is always a way to ,,, well, to get really drunk.
Its a tuff business.
Drinks, are on C.C. and water!
Its a tuff business.
Drinks, are on C.C. and water!
WHJJ/Clearchannel/texas suits have a plan. The plan is to not pay talk show host salaries. Syndicated shows are often free or at minimal expense to the station. The mistake might well be that the Texas suits think that Hannity is going to keep Arlene's listeners and draw from Yorke. Of course, the suits are in texas, not here. Methinks Arlene's listeners will go to Yorke, or perhaps to WBZ.
The balance at WHJJ was good. Something for everyone. Now with the ultra-right swing, one gets the sense that this is another Air America fiasco in the making, only from the other extreme. Save money now will probably cost more money later, and irreparable loyalty shifts, as Air America did. The ratings will tell the tale.
In the meantime, Yorke is the huge beneficiary, with Barbour a close second. Helen has her work cut out for her. She might keep some of Howie's listeners, but whether or not she can pull significant numbers from Rush is problematic, at best.
And where will the Centrist and liberal listeners go?
My money is on Boston.
MoJo
The balance at WHJJ was good. Something for everyone. Now with the ultra-right swing, one gets the sense that this is another Air America fiasco in the making, only from the other extreme. Save money now will probably cost more money later, and irreparable loyalty shifts, as Air America did. The ratings will tell the tale.
In the meantime, Yorke is the huge beneficiary, with Barbour a close second. Helen has her work cut out for her. She might keep some of Howie's listeners, but whether or not she can pull significant numbers from Rush is problematic, at best.
And where will the Centrist and liberal listeners go?
My money is on Boston.
MoJo
I realize the majority of talk show listeners are not callers but have often wondered for those who do call, the likelihood of getting through on a syndicated show vs a local one. Obviously the chance of getting on the air is less but it's that silent majority that rules Arbitron & I can't help but think they want local topics or local spins on non-local topics. As far as the actual callers, they'll go wherever it's easiest to get through to talk.
With all the CC cuts including Worcster. Bruce Palmer has dodged the axe of cuts. He seems to be spared this time around. He was a victom of the CC cuts two years ago at B101 but was hired at sister station WSRS six months later.
>>If you want a secure job try the U.S. Postal Service
just ask me: with the USPS since 1986. My radio has strictly been volunteer work..WMWM and a little
WNSH plus a WFNX news internship back in '83.
just ask me: with the USPS since 1986. My radio has strictly been volunteer work..WMWM and a little
WNSH plus a WFNX news internship back in '83.
>>And where will the Centrist and liberal listeners go?
My money is on Boston.
...not for long, with 1200 and 1430 about to do the Rumba...though there is NPR, and some hosts
on WTKK, WBZ, even WRKO (Ellen from Ted & Ellen show I believe). You have to wonder if WRKO
or WTKK might try Hartmann, Miller, or Schultz even if tape delayed...far fetched but who knows.
My money is on Boston.
...not for long, with 1200 and 1430 about to do the Rumba...though there is NPR, and some hosts
on WTKK, WBZ, even WRKO (Ellen from Ted & Ellen show I believe). You have to wonder if WRKO
or WTKK might try Hartmann, Miller, or Schultz even if tape delayed...far fetched but who knows.
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BadumpBadump
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cc is cutting people left and right at every station across the country. it's not just in providence. but it does seem extra cruel to say, "we have to let you go" and "Happy Holidays" at the same time.
I heard they even cut Helen's producer on Thursday. The evil empire has struck again!
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aqualung
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Maybe a move back to the old digs on Eastern Avenue would be a good idea. God knows a smaller building with fewer parking spaces isn't an issue anymore with fewer people.
Does this mean Tony Farr is out as fill-in too.? Jen Brien was in yesterday.
Mrs Joy
Mrs Joy
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tomcollinsaa
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MRS Joy,
Tony is the sub for Helen Glover. Jen Brien is subbing for Howie.
Me, I'm having another, and another and another!!
DRINKS, are on YOU!
Tony is the sub for Helen Glover. Jen Brien is subbing for Howie.
Me, I'm having another, and another and another!!
DRINKS, are on YOU!
Helen's producer maria was given the axe thursday, same day as Arlene's premature last show, and a day after Bart's last show.
Word on the underground wire is that another producer will be done by year-end, and even Bill george's job is being "looked at".
The suits in texas are pulling most strings, but the premature Voilet departure was all Corwin's.
YoMo, fool!
Word on the underground wire is that another producer will be done by year-end, and even Bill george's job is being "looked at".
The suits in texas are pulling most strings, but the premature Voilet departure was all Corwin's.
YoMo, fool!
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Love Radio
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Well it's about time cc did some more house cleaning, what ever happened to a DJ working for a station because he or she just loved radio and their listeners, why did they put money ahead of the love for radio??? now I'm sure that cc also has forgotten why people listen to radio too..I just don't understand why some of the big names of radio never got together and bought their own radio station and played some music people really wanted to heard before prices climbed so high, now it's out of range of most, so let hope that radio folds in this state, as so many folks are turning to different choices they have today and thank god for car cd players. I know I'll get many feed backs on this , but freedom of speech still exists...John
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content
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Does this mean that radio professionals should volunteer, and not have homes and be able to support families because they've chosen the radio profession?Love Radio said:
I don't know of many people who get into radio 'for the money', unless you go into sales. Yes, radio can be quite lucrative, but its competitive, cut-throat, and there are easier ways to make a buck. The people who do perservere and display talent and ability to attract audience, should be compensated very well.
Likewise, CC is running a business, not a halfway house for radio junkies. If they can compete, while paying fewer salaries, why wouldn't they? I happen to believe that a lot of the decisions they make are big mistakes, but its their money invested, so they have every right to screw it up and create opportunities for new forms of media to obtain their audience and advertising revenue.
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argytunes
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LoveRadio...
Like so many 'past FULLTIME radio broadcasters'...not to mention the men and women who are still 'scratching out a living' doing something they love :-*---the business of radio has always involved 3 P's: PROGRAM CONTENT/PERSONALITIES & PROFIT!
Depending upon your position at a radio station...one of the (above) 3 will be in the forefront...and the other 2 will be shoved in the trunk!
While it's a wonderful dream to expect a radio professional to "donate his or her time if they truly love the business"---do you think the philosophy would hold water if you worked for A UTILITY COMPANY? When a service is provided...you pay for it!
The same holds true for radio. Granted...unless there's a PBS affiliation...the local advertisers are responsible for the annual revenue. And if the programming doesn't bring in the customers...why should advertisers bother throwing away their money?
I don't buy into the earlier theories that it's the "greedy on-air jocks" that have forced Clear Channel and other companies out of business. That happened because "extremely eager sales people---who knew very little about the programming side of radio---assumed an executive position in exchange for "cutting good air talent, creative copywriters and producers, and personnel responsible for giving listeners "a clearer picture" about what their local or regional stations were all about! Listeners are STILL the final judge as to whether a format will succeed or fail!
Look!
CUTTING staff is easy...but substituting cheaper product in lieu of saving a few dollars ultimately will destroy practically every radio frequency...unless it's programming consists of a 24-hour home shopping network!
argytunes
Like so many 'past FULLTIME radio broadcasters'...not to mention the men and women who are still 'scratching out a living' doing something they love :-*---the business of radio has always involved 3 P's: PROGRAM CONTENT/PERSONALITIES & PROFIT!
Depending upon your position at a radio station...one of the (above) 3 will be in the forefront...and the other 2 will be shoved in the trunk!
While it's a wonderful dream to expect a radio professional to "donate his or her time if they truly love the business"---do you think the philosophy would hold water if you worked for A UTILITY COMPANY? When a service is provided...you pay for it!
The same holds true for radio. Granted...unless there's a PBS affiliation...the local advertisers are responsible for the annual revenue. And if the programming doesn't bring in the customers...why should advertisers bother throwing away their money?
I don't buy into the earlier theories that it's the "greedy on-air jocks" that have forced Clear Channel and other companies out of business. That happened because "extremely eager sales people---who knew very little about the programming side of radio---assumed an executive position in exchange for "cutting good air talent, creative copywriters and producers, and personnel responsible for giving listeners "a clearer picture" about what their local or regional stations were all about! Listeners are STILL the final judge as to whether a format will succeed or fail!
Look!
CUTTING staff is easy...but substituting cheaper product in lieu of saving a few dollars ultimately will destroy practically every radio frequency...unless it's programming consists of a 24-hour home shopping network!
argytunes
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